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turkishdelight , to assholedesign in Amazon refusing to show me the price of something if I do not add it to cart

Amazon’s customer experience has been on a very steep decline in the last 5 years or so. I find myself shopping more and more on Temu and AliExpress.

aluminium ,

same, especially since many products are the exact same thing with 100% stupid tax added on top

Appoxo ,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Why on Temu?? That is basically enabling scammers.
Just shop on Ali where you actually have some buyer protection…

turkishdelight ,

I had really good purchases on Temu. Scammers are a problem, but no more than Amazon.

evlogii ,

What is the most useful and coolest thing you’ve recently purchased on AliExpress that you’re enjoying?

Smokeless7048 ,

i got a woodworking/marking pen off Ali, $7.00 CAD Saw an identical one at Rona today, $28 CAD

turkishdelight ,

Not Alibaba, but I got a bunch of smart lights from Temu for my house: temu.com/…/rechargeable-wireless-motion-sensor-wa…

Showroom7561 ,

I find myself shopping more and more on Temu and AliExpress.

Both are super sleezy, ad-shoving, privacy disrespecting sites with aweful return policies.

Not sure that’s a better alternative to Amazon.

turkishdelight ,

is Amazon different? At least Temu is cheap.

Showroom7561 ,

Vastly different.

Superb return policy. Brand name products (on most things), and these brands will honour warranties when purchased from Amazon directly. No sales-pressure emails, fake promotions/coupons, or notifications on your phone (my wife uses Temu, and she gets these spam messages constantly throughout the day!).

I buy from Aliexpress, but it depends on the item. Some brands do have Aliexpress official stores, but shipping is often days or weeks or months (or never). Approx. 1 out of 10 orders I place on Aliexpress don’t even arrive, and I won’t be able to claim a refund for months after I’ve paid.

Aliexpress also likes to promote way too many sex toys and sleazy trash thumbnails when my order history has only been RC car and bike parts, and a flashlight. Disgusting how they “market” products.

I hate defending Amazon, because there’s a lot wrong with them, too. But compared to Temu or Ali, they are just so much better in every way.

FinishingDutch , to lemmyshitpost in I heard you wanted more
@FinishingDutch@lemmy.world avatar

That one’s spicy.

vampire ,

Why?

AdmiralShat ,

You ever had a jew in your mouth?

vampire ,

well, my last girlfriend was jewish.

ColdWater , to memes in No thanks China!
@ColdWater@lemmy.ca avatar

If I had a nickel for every time I saw one of these posts, I’d have two nickels, Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice on the same day

baseless_discourse , (edited )

And posted by the same account that was created yesterday!

fossphi , to lemmyshitpost in I heard you wanted more

Okay, time to wrap it up. This was the peak

MacNCheezus OP ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

We had a good run.

fossphi ,

What if we ran with the Jews on?

👉 👈

MacNCheezus OP ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

Then whoever finishes the race would literally be worse than Hitler.

HelixDab2 , to memes in No thanks China!

The fundamental difference is who is in control, and for what purpose.

American spyware is controlled by corporations, and is all about selling you shit you don’t need.

Chinese (and Russian) spyware is–apparently–controlled rather directly by their respective governments, and is being used to suppress democracy and increase polarization in the US and EU.

I don’t like any spyware. But the latter category–spyware that’s functionally state-sponsored–is clearly more immediately dangerous. The former is more like a slow-growing cancer.

Talaraine ,

The former is more like a slow-growing cancer.

One that we can actually fight, I might add, and we should.

HelixDab2 ,

Absolutely.

I mean, that’s part of the reason that I’m here, rather than The Place That Shall Not Be Named. That, and because my account was permanently banned because I suggested torching the house of a someone flying a nazi flag.

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

All of the US corporate social media platforms are part of the US military-industrial-intellegence complex now. Look at their boards of directors and executives. Look at the Twitter Files. Look Hamilton 68.

Look at Reddit:

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TikTok as well. The US already forced them to move their service to the US on an American-owned hosting provider, and they have already put people with a history of aligning with “American interests” into executive positions, like CEO Shou Zi Chew and vice president Michael Beckerman.

They have their eye on the fediverse now: Atlantic Council » Collective Security in a Federated World

Shake747 ,

There’s already loads of upvote/downvote bots in the fediverse here - would not be shocked if a large portion of them are from governments

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

There are not loads of upvote/downvote bots on Lemmy… yet. We admins see all the votes; we see the patterns.

Shake747 ,

Id be surprised if all admins of every instance that’s federated with Lemmy are all on the same page, let alone looking for narrative driven bots.

I see “Ukrainian combat footage” with hundreds of upvotes and no comments, there was also an article speaking positively about facebook that had lots of upvotes and no comments (it’s in my history of you look, because I commented lol) - those look like red flags to me

DragonTypeWyvern ,

I don’t find the first strange, but I also find combat footage both interesting and not worth commenting on. Plus I think a lot of people just upvote Ukraine stuff and move along because there’s no more conversation to be had in general.

That second one does seem a little weird, but Lemmy’s more than capable of licking corporate boot when you phrase it correctly to them. I’ve always found that strange in general.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

You must be getting botted right now, amirite?

pwalker ,

Twitter files are mostly a tool for Elon Musks policy. Wiki entry shows enough of why they are problematic. The Hamilton 68 controversy isn’t a big thing like you are pretending. If anything their database was misunderstood. businessinsider.com/what-is-hamilton-68-russian-o…

ToucheGoodSir ,

Glad to see the first comment in this chain being one calling out the usage of the Twitter files as a serious supporting point for anything but a point of deflection by Mr “I don’t use pr firms”.

Immediately emptied out a salt shaker on how I viewed everything else in the original comment :| homie thinks the Twitter files are relevant… ehhh I probably don’t have much interest or respect in any of their other opinions

pwalker ,

guess I’m being downvoted by the tinfoil hats in here anyway. Same as the twitter users, it’s often not bots that are the problem but rather dumb people :-(

davel , (edited )
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

Here’s my heuristic for whether to take someone seriously: https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/d1b4efb6-6b90-4c83-8546-947688f81a7b.png How’s the weather in Kekistan?

Semi-Hemi-Demigod ,
@Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

So it's only okay for them to suppress democracy and increase polarization if they use American platforms? Because that's already happening.

Bubs ,
Misconduct ,

I would love to know how all the cat and cooking videos in my tiktok feed are being used to suppress democracy 🙄

explodicle ,

I’m not defending China here, but since Snowden we now know that American corporate spyware does serve the government. And they are suppressing democracy - this isn’t a democracy yet, and peaceful protests for democracy are met with violent police resistance - Occupy, BLM, etc.

I sincerely hope that Lemmy can grow large enough to serve as a staging ground for democratic protests in America, just because it’s not corporate controlled.

isthereanydeal , to memes in Thank you American software

Isn’t spotify European?

othon_xxd ,

No, owned by Meta aka Facebook

isthereanydeal ,

Well actually IS mostly owned by europe entitities and individual shareholders. Only the founders and some europe capital mamooths had +50% of it

peepee_longstonking , to memes in No thanks China!

The concern about TikTok acquiring your private information for marketing purposes is a red herring. The concern of our government here is propaganda and narrative control – power.

Honytawk , to memes in No thanks China!

A whole lot of censoring on these posts on lemmy.ml

jackpot , to memes in Thank you American software
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

discord is also largely chinese btw

NorthCountryHermit ,

Regardless of what country “controls” it, Discord is bad for many other reasons as well.

qjkxbmwvz , to memes in No thanks China!

The USA has a very strong first amendment. Cruise social media and you can find Americans literally calling on fellow Americans to overthrow the government. And these people are largely left alone by the government. Heck, a fair number of folks who were involved in the January 6th insurrection are still walking free.

Contrast to en.m.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_Chinese_dissidents#D…

But yes. The US is absolutely not perfect.

queue ,
@queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

www.npr.org/2024/03/13/…/house-vote-tiktok-ban

Advocacy groups, including the American Civil Liberties Union, have called the bill “censorship plain and simple,” arguing that “jeopardizing access to the platform jeopardizes access to free expression.”

At 27 years old, Florida Democratic Rep. Maxwell Frost is the youngest member of Congress, and he opposes the bill.

“I think that it is a violation of people’s First Amendment rights,” he said. “TikTok is a place for people to express ideas. I have many small businesses in my district and content creators in my district, and I think it’s going to drastically impact them too.”

The fact that Republicans started it is enough for me to be at least suspicious of why its even being considered.

EDIT: Also lol at “strong first amendment rights” when redneck states ban any books with queer or black characters. And lmao at “Strong first amendment rights” when people get fired for talking about forming a union, let alone even trying to make one.

TheAnonymouseJoker ,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Communist Control Act? Sounds like First Amendment to me.

qjkxbmwvz ,

Lol comment removed for (I guess?) linking to a Wikipedia article on Chinese dissidents…

GarbageShoot ,

I think the comment shouldn’t have been removed, but principally because it is trivial to refute. The US is well aware of the fact that people calling for revolution have no teeth, while the people who actually did substantial law-breaking on Jan 6 (which itself had no teeth, but I digress) were indeed arrested.

Meanwhile, Wikipedia’s list of Chinese"dissidents" includes blatant fraudsters like Miles Guo, who fled China to evade capture for financial crimes before being imprisoned in the US for continuing to commit financial crimes, to say nothing of the “dissidents” involved in actual insurrectionary activity that killed PLA soldiers.

420blazeit69 ,

If all you did was drop a wiki link that’s a pretty worthless comment. Do you think China is the only country where dissidents get in trouble with the government? Do you think the U.S. doesn’t harass (or worse) dissidents?

Who knows, use your words

BeamBrain ,
@BeamBrain@hexbear.net avatar

Hey, what happened at Standing Rock?

Doubledee , to memes in Good times
@Doubledee@hexbear.net avatar

hitler-detector

Real kkkracker hours on lemmy today huh.

SuperSpruce , to memes in Thank you American software
  1. TikTok, regardless of the country of origin, is known to be spyware on a much greater level than everything else on this list. It collects every click, interaction, and even your clipboard, among other things, sometimes while not using the app.
  2. Yes, this kind of data harvesting should be illegal for Google, Facebook, etc. Do something about it, US government. Unfortunately our next best option is to use FOSS where possible.
zalgotext ,

Yeah I remember when TikTok was first getting popular in the States, and some reverse engineer I followed on Twitter posted his findings about it, and it was honestly pretty terrifying. Like unfettered access to your device, regardless of permissions granted, and remote code execution capabilities kind of terrifying. I don’t think Spotify does that lmao

caveman ,

This mean android permissions don’t work and a Google should be hold accountable also

TheAnonymouseJoker ,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Like unfettered access to your device, regardless of permissions granted, and remote code execution capabilities kind of terrifying.

You realise you need to provide proof for Android sandbox bypassing, right? Or are you just going to be a racist liar?

brain_in_a_box ,

TikTok, regardless of the country of origin, is known to be spyware on a much greater level than everything else on this list.

How do you support this assertion beyond just saying “it is known”?

Tankiedesantski ,

Source: Trust me bro [1]

[1] I don’t like people who look different from me.

SuperSpruce ,

Ahhh, typical Hexbear, jumping to the conclusion that I am racist because I said TikTok is bad without any citations. See the other reply in the thread for the citations.

Tankiedesantski ,

TikTok is not the only company that uses its pixels throughout the internet. The report found Google, Meta and Microsoft, among others, use these trackers.

Your first link has a sentence expressly disproving your own thesis, so in addition to concluding you are a racist, I can also now conclude that you didn’t read your own sources.

FunkyStuff ,

Justifying their attacks with claims of superiority, defending the obvious contradictions with equivalence. Classic motte and bailley.

SuperSpruce ,

I never said the other companies don’t also track you outside of the app.

Tankiedesantski ,

TikTok, regardless of the country of origin, is known to be spyware on a much greater level than everything else on this list.

brain_in_a_box ,

Your citations did not support your claim at all, you’re just openly lying and hoping nobody bothers to check.

SuperSpruce ,

I’m not trying to openly lie. If you have any evidence that any of the other platforms are expressly worse than TikTok for privacy, please show me.

Tankiedesantski ,

Goalpost shifting, your original post said that TikTok is known to be spyware on a much greater level than anything else on this list.

Your statement isn’t true even if you prove that Tiktok is the worst offender on the list. You need to prove that Tiktok is worse to a much higher degree than anything else on that list. Your own source straight out says that at least 3 of the other companies on the list engage in similar practices.

SuperSpruce ,
Tankiedesantski ,

From the very first link:

TikTok is not the only company that uses its pixels throughout the internet. The report found Google, Meta and Microsoft, among others, use these trackers.

Rigorous scholarship there, champ.

brain_in_a_box ,

Literally none of those sources support your claim that:

TikTok, regardless of the country of origin, is known to be spyware on a much greater level than everything else on this list.

So at this point you’re just knowingly lying and hoping nobody bothers to check your links.

turkishdelight ,

Nothing beats Instagram, Facebook, Google, Microsoft or Twitter in spyware. Have you heard of the Snowden revelations? These companies provide all their data to US spies.

TheAnonymouseJoker ,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar
  1. TikTok, regardless of the country of origin, is known to be spyware on a much greater level than everything else on this list. It collects every click, interaction, and even your clipboard, among other things, sometimes while not using the app.

Can you provide concrete proof that this is the case, when compared to other Western social media platforms? You sound like a scientologist.

SuperSpruce ,
TheAnonymouseJoker ,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

ABC News does not provide the “cybersecurity report” they “obtained”. Usually this is a sign of Washington ordering news outlets to do their thing. Wired looks the same. And going by the video format of WSJ tabloid, it also has nothing of substance that technically breaks down things.

AeonFelis , to lemmyshitpost in I heard you wanted more

As long as you don’t spill juice on them.

hungryphrog , to memes in No thanks China!

Fuck the USA and fuck China. Spyware sucks no matter where it’s from.

TheAnonymouseJoker ,
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    Fuck your whole family too

    lemmylem ,

    LETS RISE UP AND DESTROY THE NSA, CIA, ATF AND OTHER AGENCIES THAT MEAN NOTHING TO US REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HERES A PICTURE OF LAUREN BOEBERTS SON!!!

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  • hungryphrog ,

    Aww, poor tankie!

    TheAnonymouseJoker ,
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    Aww, poor fashie!

    Trarmp ,

    Common “both-sides” fence sitter L

    hungryphrog ,

    As if China isn’t an authoritarian country that practices censorship and is also committing a genocide.

    MacNCheezus , to lemmyshitpost in Me after accidentally joining IRS instead of IRC :
    @MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

    Could be worse. You could have joined the IRA.

    THE_ANTIHERO OP ,
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    True true

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