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Dominic8999 , to programmerhumor in JSchizophrenia

Web devs finding out that they must learn JavaScript:

ozoned , to programmerhumor in JSchizophrenia
@ozoned@beehaw.org avatar

Arrest those parents for child abuse! No not the alcohol!

yiliu , to memes in How I feel about capitalist bootlicking from ex-Reddit community

The Global South should give capitalism a try one of these decades. It paid off for Asia and Europe…

yogthos OP ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

You used so many words to say that you’re clueless.

yiliu ,

Leftists and ad-hominem attacks, name a more iconic duo

Jean_le_Flambeur ,

Its not an as hominem attack kid ^^ Ad hominem would be: you are an idiot and therefore wrong. What he says is “you write wrong stuff and are therfore an idiot”

Huge difference

yiliu ,

So, you’re saying that the Global South (either Africa or South America) has made major, concerted attempts at creating effective capitalist states?

There’s a few examples. Australia, of course, though Leftists will obviously discount it.

Chile very deliberately adopted capitalism, though it was under an oppressive dictator. Even so, it’s #3 on the list of South American countries for per-capita GDP these days, and is topping the list for political freedoms.

Uruguay, with it’s famously beige recent politics, is #1.

Of course, you have Indonesia, which has been doing pretty well recently. I wonder why? (/s)

Malaysia and Singapore are technically in the northern hemisphere, so they don’t count I guess…

Most of South America has historically swung radically back and forth between left and right (yes, in part due to US pressure). There’s a leftward swing again. Let’s see how it goes this time! Good news is that if it fails, they can just blame external forces yet again.

Jean_le_Flambeur ,

and now your making a strawman argument. do you try to play some sort of bogus-argument-bingo?

What is said was: “what a did was not an ad hominem atack”

now your comment starts with: “So, you’re saying that the Global South (either Africa or South America) has made major, concerted attempts at creating effective capitalist states?”

and you even dare to start with: "so what your saying is … "

no thats not at all what i said, i didnt mention the globale south, i didnt metion capitalism, i didnt even agree with OP on his meme.

but thats what you argue against. Do you really not see this or are you a troll?

yiliu ,

Well this is a blast from the past. I can’t even load the context anymore.

I was engaged in an argument, and staying focused on the argument instead of getting sidetracked by semantics. But anyway, you claimed “it’s not ad hominem, he said you were wrong therefore you are stupid!” That rests on the assumption that I was wrong, so I was assuming that was your assertion.

I think. This was, after all, months ago, and apparently the account I was arguing with got deleted or something?

Jean_le_Flambeur ,

Yeah, just saw i had unread messages and replied.

My point was that you are using ad hominem wrong.

It would be an ad hominem Argument if he would take your personality/looks/person as an argument against your talking point/what you say.

This is not the case here. He argues against your talking point/what you say and uses that as an argument against your person.

It doesn’t matter what side of you both is right content wise, its not ad hominem either way, as you botth argue about the information itself. (Plus making [unnessesary] assumptions about each others personality based on the opinion they have in the information)

As homin is ONLY if you use the person saying the opinion against the opinion.

If you use the opinion the person says as an argument against the person, that something totally different and quite logic frankly.

For example: If trump says: poc are violent

Ad hominem would be: this is wrong BECAUSE trump said it.

Normal arguing is: trump is saying this, therefore he is a racist/dumb/wrong.

Two very different things.

And atacking others for caring two much about semantics when you make false (semantic) allegations is another sign of bad discussion style IMHO

I have no hard feelings about this thread, but it bothers me when people are discussing in awaty that is bound to fail, so I wanted to clarify this

DominicO ,

idk man, the Philippines has been trying capitalism for a while and it only empowered the aristocrats here even more and turned them into oligarchs.

plumbus , to futurama in dictionary.com represent
DragonAce , to futurama in dictionary.com represent

Actually no. That quote is from the bible.

Zapp’s quote is “The spirit is willing, but the flesh is spongy and bruised.”

betterdeadthanreddit ,

Where do you think the bible got it from?

StarManta ,

The original Klingon of course

betterdeadthanreddit ,

The King James Tiberius Kirk Version is a better translation than most. Even keeps the line about beating bat’leths into ploughshares with the original context to show it as a shameful act.

hypnotoad__ OP ,
@hypnotoad__@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah I know it’s not perfect mr buzzkill, trying to have some fun in here!

StarManta ,

It’s not that you misquoted a line or something like that. The dictionary quote is an extremely well known saying that originated in the Bible. Zapp’s line in futurama is literally parodying that saying. By thinking the dictionary is in any way referencing the Futurama scene, you have revealed that you didn’t even get the joke in the first place.

NikkiDimes ,

I’d say it’s fairly clear Matthew was just a time traveling Futurama fan and hypnotoad had it right all along.

herpderpedia ,

It’s also not dictionary.com. It’s very clearly Merriam-Webster. OP got nothing correct.

hypnotoad__ OP ,
@hypnotoad__@lemmy.ml avatar

Wahhhh

Jean_le_Flambeur , to memes in How I feel about capitalist bootlicking from ex-Reddit community

The funny thing: both memes are true… We live in a fkin disgusting world where every system oppresses. People who think capitalism works for the people are equally braindead as the ones claiming China and Russia are communist utopias.

Sure Marxist communism could be great, but it yet has to be archived

yogthos OP ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Nobody thinks that Russia is communist. However, whatever you want to call China, it’s objectively better than what we have in the west. One thing to note though is that 87.6% of young Chinese identify with Marxism, and the Communist party has 95 million members.

China lifted 800 million out of poverty, and in fact China is the only place in a world where any meaningful poverty reduction is happening. If we take China out of the equation poverty actually increased in real terms:

If we take just one country, China, out of the global poverty equation, then even under the $1.90 poverty standard we find that the extreme poverty headcount is the exact same as it was in 1981.

The $1.90/day (2011 PPP) line is not an adequate or in any way satisfactory level of consumption; it is explicitly an extreme measure. Some analysts suggest that around $7.40/day is the minimum necessary to achieve good nutrition and normal life expectancy, while others propose we use the US poverty line, which is $15.

China also massively invests in infrastructure. They used more concrete in 3 years than US in all of 20th century, they built 27,000km of high speed rail in a decade.

90% of families in the country own their home giving China one of the highest home ownership rates in the world. What’s more is that 80% of these homes are owned outright, without mortgages or any other leans.

Real wage (i.e. the wage adjusted for the prices you pay) has gone up 4x in the past 25 years, more than any other country. This is staggering considering it’s the most populous country on the planet. People in China also enjoy high social mobility.

Unsurprisingly, government satisfaction in China is extremely high and unmatched by any western democracy:

Numerous studies and surveys also show that people who actually live in China feel their country is democratic in a sense of having a government that works in the interest of the majority. In fact, far higher percentage of people living in China feel their system is democratic than those living in US

Finally, China is the only major country that’s actually doing anything meaningful to transition off fossil fuels. Once again, making absolutely stunning progress this year alone.

So, yeah, China might not be an utopia, and they have plenty of problems. However, it is a country where life continues to improve with each and every decade, that doesn’t suffer from constant economic crashes the way capitalist shitholes do, and where people are happy and optimistic about the future. Seems like looking at what China is doing and learning from that might be a good start for people in the west.

It’s also fascinating to me how the same people who like to do purity tests for China claiming they’re not actually communist are also the ones who’ll defend places like US or Canada saying yeah it’s not perfect, but it’s the ideal of the system that matters.

It’s such an incredible example of cognitive dissonance. People able to recognize that their own system doesn’t live up to the ideal they have in their heads, but still treat it as a valid interpretation of the idea, but when it comes to a system they dislike then the same logic doesn’t apply all of a sudden.

Jean_le_Flambeur ,

i think your projecting something here or making a deliberate strawman, read my first sentence again and tell me where I am “able to recognize that [my] own system doesn’t live up to the ideal [i] have in [my] heads, but still treat it as a valid interpretation of the idea, but when it comes to a system [i] dislike then the same logic doesn’t apply all of a sudden.”

yogthos OP ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Nobody is projecting anything here or making ant strawman. You made a false equivalence claiming that both US and China are bad. I gave you concrete examples of China continuously improving lives of its people, and being pretty much the only place in the world where major quality of life improvements are happening for the majority. If you can’t understand that, then what else is there to tell you.

Jean_le_Flambeur , (edited )

Do you think China is a Marxist utopia? Because if not I don’t know why you are so butthurt by my comment, if yes my point stands.

Not sure what you are trying to proof here, to me it seems like you have two simple categories in your head: “pro me” and “anti me” and you assume everyone in the same category must be the same. I remotely mention that I don’t think China is heaven on earth and you start to talk about how I must be mentally derailed or something.

I think calling the us democratic is far fetched, butcallingg China democratic is not very close to the truth either.

yogthos OP ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Nah I don’t think China is an utopia. I just think it’s far better than what US offers. If you can’t understand that one thing can be better than the other without either being some sort of an utopia, what else is there to say.

Jean_le_Flambeur ,

If you cant understand that

“People who think China is a communist utopia are idiots”

And

“There is NO good aspekt of China AT ALL”

Are two different sentences and you don’t need to start calling me mentally derailed or make site long fanboy essays about China, what else there is to say?

yogthos OP ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Except I never said either of these things. This is just you fighting a straw man.

Jean_le_Flambeur ,

This you?

It’s such an incredible example of cognitive dissonance. People able to recognize that their own system doesn’t live up to the ideal they have in their heads, but still treat it as a valid interpretation of the idea, but when it comes to a system they dislike then the same logic doesn’t apply all of a sudden.

As is said, it seems like you are working with only two categories in your head: “pro China” and “pro us”

That one can criticise one of them without liking the other doesn’t seem to fit in your head

yogthos OP ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah that’s me, and being able to recognize that one system is a better option than the other has nothing to do with the straw man you keep making. It seems like you’re having a really hard time wrapping your head around the concept that one thing can be preferable to another without either being perfect.

Jean_le_Flambeur ,

OK, so you recognise what you said, still you cant find the mistake and keep thinking you are making a point.

I give up, you cant be reasoned with…

yogthos OP ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah, please give up on pretending you were trying to reason. What you were doing was making a transparent straw man and ignoring what I told you. That’s just lazy trolling.

Nakoichi ,
@Nakoichi@hexbear.net avatar

Your entire account is just an unhealthy obsession with “tankies” and refusing to engage in good faith in any of your comments. Piss off.

You’re literally the smug liberal this meme is making fun of.

FunderPants , to memes in One last Chuck

In all seriousness though Chuck Norris is a right wing weirdo who believes Climate policy is a con game designed to usher in a “one world order” and that evolution isn’t real.

Just a couple of chuck facts for the day.

ihavenopeopleskills , to memes in One last Chuck
@ihavenopeopleskills@kbin.social avatar

The following are the twelve points that guide Mr. Norris' life:

  1. I will develop myself to the maximum of my potential in all ways.
  2. I will forget the mistakes of the past and press on to greater achievements.
  3. I will always be in a positive frame of mind and convey this feeling to every person that I meet.
  4. I will continually work at developing love, happiness and loyalty in my family and acknowledge that no other success can compensate for failure in the home.
  5. I will look for the good in all people and make them feel worthwhile.
  6. If I have nothing good to say about a person, I will say nothing.
  7. I will give so much time to the improvement of myself that I will have no time to criticize others.
  8. I will always be as enthusiastic about the success of others as I am about my own.
  9. I will maintain an attitude of open-mindedness toward another person’s viewpoint while still holding fast to that which I know to be true and honest.
  10. I will maintain respect for those in authority and demonstrate this respect at all times.
  11. I will always remain loyal to God, my country, family and my friends.
  12. I will remain highly goal-oriented throughout my life because that positive attitude helps my family, my country, and myself.
ArugulaZ ,
  1. I will never, ever learn to act, no matter how many films and television shows I'm in.
Ocelot , to unixporn in [Hyprland] My current Hyprland Arch linux setup

I really wanted to like hyprland so much. Tiling window managers are just too clunky for me.

iloverocks ,

If you want to try you also can use hyprland as a stacking window compositor it is really clean. The one thing I would say is clunky is the configuration around hyprland xdg-desktop-portals are just a mess

Chozo , to cat in The best part

True, tho.

001100010010 , to cat in The best part
@001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

There’s always a kitty!

Agressively hugs my cat who reacts by meowing in annoyance

flauschke , to programmerhumor in No more problem

That 1,7 rating is sure to increase now that all the problem is gone

danteog ,

Maybe only the all problem was solved

Semmelstulle ,
@Semmelstulle@feddit.de avatar

It was a pretty good app until it was bought by some Chinese company and since then it all went downhill. That must have been almost 8 years ago iirc

candyman337 ,
@candyman337@lemmy.world avatar

Yep, the two I used to replace it are one, fstop which us my go to, you used to be able to get the pro version for free on fdroid, not sure if you still can. Two, simple gallery, that one I think it has a pro but I can’t remember but if it does, you can get it on fdroid.

I like fstop overall more, but simple gallery has most of the same features with imo a slightly worse ui, but it has webp support which is nice.

Semmelstulle ,
@Semmelstulle@feddit.de avatar

Yeah I remember the Simple App suite. At first it was just Gallery, then the paid bundle in Google Play, and later other apps followed. I think LeafPic has a super interesting UI, but that one is proprietary.

I’d be interested to look into the Android side again. I’m on iOS for 5 years now, I bet there are some very nice things to discover!

DangerousDetlef , to programmerhumor in No more problem
<pre style="background-color:#ffffff;">
<span style="color:#323232;">> Solved problem no 174 in my software
</span><span style="color:#323232;">> Push to prod, build runs fine, release
</span><span style="color:#323232;">> Finally, all problem solved
</span><span style="color:#323232;">> Relax, weekend, go do stuff with my wonderful wife and kids
</span><span style="color:#323232;">> Monday, back to work
</span><span style="color:#323232;">> 296 new problem
</span>
abfarid , to programmerhumor in No more problem
@abfarid@lemmy.world avatar

I remember using QuickPic all the way back on Android Gingerbread. They sure had enough time to solve “All Problem”.

Damage , to programmerhumor in No more problem

Such a sad end for a good app

MentalEdge ,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

I use the modded version from github.

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