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Diplomjodler3 , to nostupidquestions in I like this text. In which Lemmy community can I best share it ? Thanks.

If you close a business without going bankrupt, that is not failure.

milicent_bystandr ,

Sounds like a crazy idea to me. Next you’ll be saying, end a TV show before the ratings have plummeted to zero.

mudmaniac ,

Best to end it while you are still “Master of your Domain”.

milicent_bystandr ,

> climb the ranks of the navy
> become “Admiral and Master of the Fourth Sea”
> end it with a splash, a crack, a gurgle, and a “Captain goes down with his ship!”

> BBC pulls in a new actor for your role and carries on two seasons more before abruptly stopping and still doesn’t resolve your storyline.

ryathal ,

I’d say it depends on the trajectory, closing a month or two before bankruptcy isn’t really a success.

Hugh_Jeggs ,

If you part before death, that is a failed marriage tho

Godric , (edited )

I am a Trump level successful businessperson, I gathered 132.5 gorillion in investment dollars, pissed 130.75 away on becoming the biggest name in Dwarven Cuck Hentai, and sold it to a Google for .0008 gorillion, half of which was mine!

Pure profit, baybee!

qjkxbmwvz , to nostupidquestions in I like this text. In which Lemmy community can I best share it ? Thanks.

Disregarding the question but commenting on the material, I don’t think this is generally true. In labeling something as forever upfront (e.g., marriage, which generally includes a “forever clause”), it’s only natural though.

Contrast marriage with a “summer fling” — the expectation is a duration of at most one summer. Not really considered a failure (which is kinda the plot of Grease, dated though that may be…)

There was a great restaurant near me (Michelin star), and it closed a while back — the owner was upfront that he just had a kid and wanted to spend more time together. I don’t think anyone views that as a failure. A loss for the community, definitely, but not a failure.

oo1 , (edited ) to nostupidquestions in I like this text. In which Lemmy community can I best share it ? Thanks.

edit - deleting my comment
, i didnt notice which forum.
actual answer is: showerthoughts or something?

TimewornTraveler ,

why not just respond to what you wanted to? everyone else found it an appropriate setting to discuss the content. OP clearly liked it and walked to talk about it anywhere it fits!

EatATaco , to nostupidquestions in I like this text. In which Lemmy community can I best share it ? Thanks.

I think this is looking at it backwards. I think we shouldn’t view failure as a bad thing. Failure is learning. It’s part of growing. You fail at something, you’ve learned something (well, hopefully). Often you learn more by failing than by succeeding.

Like coaching my kid’s soccer team today: I want them to fail sometimes. I have a player doing well with his right foot and scores a couple of goals, I switch him to the other side and tell him to use his left foot “But I’m not good at it!” good. “I’m not good at goalie.” Excellent, here’s the goalie jersey and go get in there. That’s the point, I’m trying to make them better soccer players. If we just played into their strengths all the time, it would limit how much of a better player they can become.

At work, as a programmer, I try something out. It doesn’t work out because there was some unforeseen condition that causes my initial pattern to fail? No big deal, just redo the pattern from scratch (if, of course, there is the time for that) or rethink the pattern. And I’ve seen how often that solves some other problem, or makes another thing more efficient, or makes future development more easy.

So who cares if your coffee shop failed, or you’re a “failed writer” (I’ve never heard that before), if we don’t treat failure as a bad thing, then people will be more likely to accept that and learn from it.

milicent_bystandr ,

I think you’re right about embracing failure, but I think this is different: is your kid’s soccer team a failure if they don’t play forever? Or is it a success that they play some games, maybe win once or twice, even just learn and have fun?

Some things in life we seem to label failures if they stop after a season, as if long-term stability were the only true goal.

xenoclast ,

Not the same philosophy, but also a very useful one. Would go hand in hand with OP

dave ,
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The thing with football is that there is a specific goal (pun very much intended). It’s ok to have a mindset that you’re going to play in a way that makes it unlikely (in the beginning) you’ll achieve that goal (eg play left footed), but if that player never improved, would you still think it’s ‘working’)?

I worked in an industry for many years that was obsessed with goal-setting, and that mindset never appealed to me. I eventually found a book called Goal Free Living by Stephen M. Shapiro. It was a bit of an eye-opener for me, and the phrase “Carry a compass not a map” stayed with me until today. I’ve done several different things since then but I’ll never be famous for any of them as I still keep changing direction.

sp3tr4l ,

This is a very important point to make.

I made my own post about problems I have with what was posted, but an angle that I would love if more people adopted would be to stop viewing failure as inherently negative and useless in nearly all cases.

Failure can teach you a lot if you are capable of reflection and analysis, and failure happens to everyone, all the time, and is totally normal.

Damaskox , to nostupidquestions in I like this text. In which Lemmy community can I best share it ? Thanks.
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I think I’m gonna disagree with the fandom dying thing.

From a system’s perspective - if it exist for a reason, for someone to use it, and then they stop using it and go away, leaving it alone without any use, I’d see that system being abandoned, lost, or dead.

Then again - someone can come back to it and turn it “alive” or active again!

Alexstarfire , to nostupidquestions in I like this text. In which Lemmy community can I best share it ? Thanks.

Really depends on what your goals were to begin with. Most people don’t open a business or get married expecting for them to end. In that regard, they are failures.

all-knight-party ,
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That's what the post is trying to highlight, that people don't allow themselves to view something retroactively as the good it had, only the negative, as if the end failure is all they got out of it.

PhreakyByNature , to nostupidquestions in I like this text. In which Lemmy community can I best share it ? Thanks.

I’ve been a low ranked, terrible Counter-Strike player since 2000. Probably will be until my fingers /eyes / ears stop working. That’s not success. But it is fun. Some stuff you can do “forever” and it be fun. Conversely the point in your post is important.

GluWu , to nostupidquestions in I like this text. In which Lemmy community can I best share it ? Thanks.

Curated tumblr, microblog memes, Lemmy being wholesome, 196, lots of places it could fit and be appreciated.

Nimrod ,

Literally until the moment I read your comment, I thought that community was “microbiology memes”

Not on topic, but wow.

threelonmusketeers ,

And if all else fails: !nowhereelsetoshare

Kovukono , to nostupidquestions in I like this text. In which Lemmy community can I best share it ? Thanks.

Normally I’d expect to see this stuff on !curatedtumblr

Cheskaz ,

Thanks for letting me know that that community exists! It’s one of my favourite subreddit so there being a Lemmy alternative is great news!

Ilovethebomb , to nostupidquestions in I like this text. In which Lemmy community can I best share it ? Thanks.

The best way to get out of a business is generally to sell it though, so someone else keeps running it. Although shutting down a business for personal reasons isn’t generally considered a failure.

As for being an author, you only need one book to be a commercial success in order to be a “successful” author.

db0 , to nostupidquestions in I like this text. In which Lemmy community can I best share it ? Thanks.
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It fits very well for !eudaimonia so I cross posted it there

Blaze ,

Nice community

uninvitedguest ,
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I only see 3 posts in that community. Is it just me?

ThePowerOfGeek ,
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No, you are correct about the number of posts. But it looks like the community is only about 2 weeks old. And if they focus on quality over quantity that post count isn’t a bad thing.

fulcrummed , to nostupidquestions in I like this text. In which Lemmy community can I best share it ? Thanks.

It is because everything must end that everything is so beautiful.

milicent_bystandr , to memes in yeah why

Because Italy not Finland, duh.

Fidel_Cashflow , to memes in Fascism everywhere
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Banger post, OP

gedaliyah , to memes in yeah why
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"Architects hate this one weird trick”

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