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threedc , (edited ) to programmer_humor in "I want to live forever in AI"

The game SOMA represents this case the best. Highly recommended!

Wolfwood1 ,

Yes, I immediately thought about SOMA after reading the post. recommendations++

Mkengine ,

I already know I will never play this game, could you elaborate for me?

Sethayy ,

Brain scan tossed in a robot makes 2 Simons

NeverNudeNo13 ,

And several times throughout the story you are forced into making some “decisions” about how to deal with stale memory registers.

BingBong ,

Did they ever allow for turning off head bob and blur? That game makes me motion sick to an insane degree.

MintyAnt ,

Soma is so fucking bleak and I love it

xantoxis , to programmerhumor in "I want to live forever in AI"

So, I’m curious.

What do you think happens in the infinite loop that “runs you” moment to moment? Passing the same instance of consciousness to itself, over and over?

Consciousness isn’t an instance. It isn’t static, it’s a constantly self-modifying waveform that remembers bits about its former self from moment to moment.

You can upload it without destroying the original if you can find a way for it to meaningfully interact with processing architecture and media that are digital in nature; and if you can do that without shutting you off. Here’s the kinky part: We can already do this. You can make a device that takes a brain signal and stimulates a remote device; and you can stimulate a brain with a digital signal. Set it up for feedback in a manner similar to the ongoing continuous feedback of our neural structures and you have now extended yourself into a digital device in a meaningful way.

Then you just keep adding to that architecture gradually, and gradually peeling away redundant bits of the original brain hardware, until most or all of you is being kept alive in the digital device instead of the meat body. To you, it’s continuous and it’s still you on the other end. Tada, consciousness uploaded.

oo1 , to linux in You think Linux is living a Renaissance with Gaming and New Non-Technical Users?

no.
Next year will be the year when people say "this will be the year of the linux rennaisance"

That said I guess there is Da Vinci Resolve available.
When is Wayleonardo coming to debian as standard?

guywithoutaname , to linux in You think Linux is living a Renaissance with Gaming and New Non-Technical Users?

More devices need to come with Linux out of the box. It should be possible to buy a device with Linux at your local Walmart.

Socsa , (edited ) to programmer_humor in "I want to live forever in AI"

A copy is fine. I can still seek vengeance on my enemies from beyond the grave.

RagingRobot ,

It’s definitely an improvement to just being plain old dead

intensely_human ,

I dunno. I’m starting to suspect nobody’s ever dead.

jenny_ball , to linux in You think Linux is living a Renaissance with Gaming and New Non-Technical Users?
@jenny_ball@lemmy.world avatar

lemmy has more of a chance at replacing Reddit than this

essteeyou , to programmerhumor in "I want to live forever in AI"

Conscience?

Matriks404 , to programmerhumor in "I want to live forever in AI"

What if every part of my body is replaced by computer part continously. At what point do I lose my consciousness?

I think this question is hard to answer because not everyone agrees what consciousness even is.

hperrin ,

It wouldn’t really matter until you get to the brain. Very little of your body’s “processing” happens outside of your brain. Basically all of your consciousness is in there. There are some quick nerve paths that loop through your spine for things like moving your hand away when you touch a hot object, but that’s not really consciousness.

UnfortunateShort , to linuxmemes in There are only 4 serious consolidated Linux Distros: Fedora, OpenSuse, Debian, Ubuntu

I don’t really know how to change your mind except bringing up that you are objectively wrong.

Thcdenton , to programmer_humor in "I want to live forever in AI"

This prospect doesnt bother me in the least. I’ve already been replaced 5 times in my life so far. The soul is a spook. Let my clone smother me in my sleep and deal with the IRS instead.

mynameisigglepiggle ,

Makes me wonder how many times I’ve been replaced. Also makes me wonder if I just died yesterday and today I’m actually a new person. I have no evidence that yesterday happened except for a memory of it, and let’s face it, since it was a public holiday, that’s a pretty foggy memory

roscoe ,

I wonder about that. During the deepest part of sleep does your brain have enough activity to maintain a continuous stream of consciousness? If you go through two sleep cycles in a night does yesterday you die, and you from the first sleep cycle who only dreamed die, and you’re a new consciousness in the morning?

lath ,

Dreaming is just the brain butchering who you were and placing whatever’s left in storage as decaying trophies.

mojofrododojo ,

yeah, went down this rabbit hole recently: what if I’m the .001% that lives until <max age variable for my genome>? or what if ‘me’ is an amalgam of all the ones that die, and I get to live all those lives until the variable runs out.

Imalostmerchant ,

I feel like there’s a great story behind each one of the five

intensely_human ,

Damn dude. Was each time a death? I think a someone’s following me around and snuffing me out. Mandela Effects keep happening. Also I’m getting elf ears? Reality is weird.

mojofrododojo ,

Also I’m getting elf ears?

plastic surgery - that shit’s expensive. use that money for something better lol!

intensely_human ,

No I mean my ears are literally just spontaneously developing into elf ears

HawlSera ,

“The soul is a spook”

I’m sorry I understand those words not in those orders though, are you saying the soul is an olde timey anti-black racial slur or that it’s inherently scary?

mojofrododojo ,

spook

could also indicate ghost or intelligence operative. I don’t assume they were going racist with it.

Sodium_nitride ,

Spook is from the german “spuking” which means haunting. Its use in this context comes from the german philosopher Max Stirner who is infamous for the memes where X is declared to be a spook.

Understanding what exactly spooks are is somewhat challenging, and plenty of people get the wrong ubderstanding about what is meany by spooks. But at least in the meme way of using the word, a spook is anything you think is a fairy tale, or nonsense that you don’t care about.

trashgirlfriend ,

A spook is a pretty niche concept from philosophy, I believe coined by Max Stirner

It basically means a social construct that is being taken as if it is a real factual thing instead of something made up?

I am bad at explaining stuff but I hope you get the gist of it.

TheWoozy ,

Spook = ghost (aka a soul unhoused a living body)

yogthos , (edited ) to programmerhumor in "I want to live forever in AI"
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I think that really depends on the implementation details. For example, consider a thought experiment where artificial neurons can be created that behave just the same as biological ones. Then each of your neurons is replaced by an artificial version while you are still conscious. You wouldn’t notice losing a single neuron at a time, in fact this regularly happens already. Yet, over time, all your biological neurons could be replaced by artificial ones at which point your consciousness will have migrated to a new substrate.

Alternatively, what if one of your hemispheres was replaced by an artificial one. What if an artificial hemisphere was added into the mix in addition to the two you have. What if a dozen artificial hemispheres were added, or a thousand, would the two original biological ones still be the most relevant parts of you?

flashgnash ,

Alright Frankenstein

boredsquirrel , to linux in Are we Wayland yet or Whats missing?
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interdimensionalmeme ,

We have moonligh/sunshinefor that

What I want is remote windows

And I want them on wayland, on X, on my android phone, in the meta quest 3, in my browser and on windows (native, not wsl)

cerement , to linux in Are we Wayland yet or Whats missing?
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is Debian shipping with it default yet?

bastonia OP ,

while Debian is still deciding if they ship with Wayland by default or not, Fedora and KDE are planning to already completely drop x11 for their next release (they ship Wayland by default)

bamboo ,

For Fedora I’m not surprised, but KDE is considering dropping X11 support already?

lemmyvore ,

Yes, because Plasma 6 is so flawless on Wayland. /s

shaytan ,
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Fedora 40 with kde plasma 6 dropped a day or two ago, and they did remove x11, you have to get it from the repo in case you want it, otherwise, it only comes and is planned for wayland, which I believe is great, for once it does seem like the year of wayland

lemmyvore ,

Fedora should drop every other DE except KDE. That would really free up some resources.

bamboo ,

It would also uncheck a lot of accessibility requirements that RHEL in particular needs.

lemmyvore ,

I was kidding about Fedora but Red Hat can actually afford to do that. They’re not a generalist distro, they can and should offer their customers a very specific desktop stack.

bamboo ,

Part of the reason red hat uses gnome is because it is the only desktop that meets many accessibility requirements. It would be a huge engineering effort to bring any other desktop up to par in that regard. Most graphical Linux software is really far behind in accessibility.

lemmyvore ,

It doesn’t have to be KDE. That was just the joke for Fedora.

Unlike Fedora, Red Hat can actually afford to use a single DE and a very specific graphics stack and to get rid of X completely. They don’t have to support the full breadth and legacy of Linux desktop apps. For Red Hat machines the desktop is just a means to an end – it facilitates access to certain GUI tools.

TheGrandNagus ,

Debian Gnome has had it as default since 2019.

offspec , to linux in Are we Wayland yet or Whats missing?

Just waiting on kde 6.1 for remote input so input leap can work

TootSweet , to linux in Are we Wayland yet or Whats missing?

That site’s great.

The main thing I wish for is for ffmpeg to start supporting the wlroots screengrabbing api.

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