I’m gonna be that person… I rarely, if ever have issues with nvidia on Linux. Used several 30xx series cards for gaming over the last couple of years and it’s been a great experience.
Is it my distro (Void)?. is it because I’m happy staying on X11? Is it just luck? Interested to hear people’s gripes
I use Ubuntu and Nvidia 3080 and the only issue I have had was when Steam updated their Big Picture Mode. I was using Wayland and it broke with the new Big Picture Mode. I had to switch back to x11 and it works well with that. I do hope Nvidia and Steam fix the Wayland issue. I'd rather use Wayland.
I have been using my Linux Gaming PC for for a couple of years now. I jumped ship with the ad riddled Windows 11. And I have been very happy with Steam/Proton gaming.
Well, you are not alone. While I too would prefer not to use proprietary drivers, I have had no problems on any of my Nvidia machines as well. Ironically, despite the open source drivers, getting a 7900XTX card up and running was an issue for me for months till distros caught up (with newer kernels and mesa libs), while my 4090 installation was a breeze even on the day it was released.
A lot of problems people have with Nvidia GPUs seem to be installation related. I think that is because the installation tends to be distro-specific and people do not necessarily follow the correct procedure for their distro or try installing the drivers directly from the Nvidia site as they would on Windows. For example, Fedora requires you to add RPMFusion, Debian needs non-free to be added to sources, Linux Mint lets you install the proprietary drivers but only after the first boot, and so on. Pop OS! probably makes the process the easiest with their Nvidia-specific ISO.
I have a 3080 and it runs fine with openSUSE Tumbleweed. On first boot you do need to add the nvidia repo and then install it which I guess could be problematic for new linux users, but it's literally pasting 1 line into terminal and then clicking the driver in yast. Echoing what others have said, I'd prefer if nvidia was a little less hostile to open source but frankly the driver just works, and works well. The only thing I've used besides openSUSE lately is Pop_OS and I believe the nvidia driver was installed automatically. If someone is having trouble getting the driver installed that seems to be a failure of the distro, not the user. You should be able to depend on your distros packaging to take care of this stuff.
There is definitely some substance behind the complaints, but I think they are overblown or just the typical linux-user-parroting something they heard other people say.
On PopOS my 3070ti was always stable. I ran into occasional stuttering in the DE, but the biggest thing was I had to manual compile shaders using some guys github repo to play Apex Legends without it being a stuttery mess. But like you said, Pop is on X11 so maybe that makes a difference?
I bought into the “if you are going to use linux, especially for gaming, you need an amd gpu.” So I bought a 6900xt. I’ve had as many issues with my 6900xt; they are just different types of issues. Nothing insurmountable but its not like its some panacea.
I think this is a big part of it. I have no issues with Nvidia + X11, however if I try to use Wayland with my 2080 I get numerous issues that has me running back to Xorg very quickly.
Linux is their bread and butter when it comes to servers and machine learning, but that’s a specialized environment and they don’t really care about general desktop use on arbitrary distros. They care about big businesses with big support contracts. Nobody’s running Wayland on their supercomputer clusters.
I cannot wait until architecture-agnostic ML libraries are dominant and I can kiss CUDA goodbye for good. I swear, 90% of my tech problems over the past 5 years have boiled down to “Nvidia sucks”. I’ve changed distros three times hoping it would make things easier, and it never really does; it just creates exciting new problems to play whack-a-mole with. I currently have Ubuntu LTS working, and I’m hoping I never need to breathe on it again.
That said, there’s honestly some grass-is-greener syndrome going on here, because you know what sucks almost as much as using Nvidia on Linux? Using Nvidia on Windows.
Yeah they don't hate Linux, they just have their own priorities. That said I'm running Nvidia+Wayland happily, for desktop they have worked a lot more on Wayland this year, the upcoming driver fixes a bunch of things, and my distrib handled driver installation and updates, I never have to think about it.
I cannot wait until architecture-agnostic ML libraries are dominant and I can kiss CUDA goodbye for good
I really hope this happens. After being on Nvidia for over a decade (960 for 5 years and similar midrange cards before that), I finally went AMD at the end of last year. Then of course AI burst onto the scene this year, and I’ve not yet managed to get stable diffusion running to the point it’s made me wonder if I might have made a bad choice.
It’s possible to run stable diffusion on amd cards, it’s just a bit more tedious and a lot slower. I managed to get it working on my rx 6700 under arch linux just fine. Now that I’m on fedora, it doesn’t really want to work for some reason, but I’m sure that it can be fixed as well, I just didn’t spend enough time on it.
It just makes no sense to me though, how is it sustainable for nvidia to not have great Linux kernel support? Like, let the kernel maintainers do their job and reap the benefits. I’m guessing that nvidia sees enterprise support contracts as an essential revenue stream, but eventually even enterprises are going to go with hardware that Linus isn’t giving the finger to right? Am I crazy?
amd didn’t care a few years ago, but their drivers are open, so the community can fix it even if the company don’t care(now amd care a lot more, so it’s better) nvidia is a closed source crap, and it don’t give a fuck too
I’m hoping the recent explosion of AI/ML stuff will create more incentives for them to have proper support for desktop Linux, but I’m not counting on it.
This is a great entrypoint to the series. The main cast is all new (though there are of course several references throughout the story for long-time fans). The gameplay is new (turn-based instead of brawler). I believe this is also the first Yakuza since the original Y1 to have a full English dub if that’s you’re thing.
LaD is a fantastic game that I recommend to anybody. Just know that it is much goofier than persona (especially the side content). Happy to answer any questions you might have.
i disagree, since it’s the only one that’s a turn based game. I’d start with either Yakuza 0, the prequel, or Yakuza kiwami, which is a remake of the first game
The Persona games, while all existing in the same universe and sharing many play mechanics are largely standalone. You can pick up and play any of them and not miss anything storywise by not playing the others. That said each subsequent game adds certain QoL features which, once gotten used to you'd be hard-pressed to play without. I've played 3, 4, and 5, in that order and I would recommend the same to anyone looking to get into the series.
The Yakuza series on the other hand all follow a set timeline, and though each game has its own plot they all exist in an evolving overall world. They should be played in order, at least 1-6. Zero is a prequel though it was made around the same time as 5. As such it has several references to future events which are not really spoilery, but without playing the other games you won't necessarily get them. But they are not vital to the plot and the game can be enjoyed first. That's what I did and never felt like I was missing out on anything. 7 is a new start for the series and while taking place in the same world and featuring guest stars from other games it is not closely tied to the other games in the series. Personally, 7 is my favorite of the bunch with Zero a close second.
For persona, start with 5. 3, 4 and 5 all take place within the same universe but the stories are not connected. The gameplay is at its most polished with 5.
I think persona 5 (if you can get the “royale” version) is the best to start playing persona, you don’t need to play the previous one to enjoy that game
Have to agree there. It’s very newcomer friendly, even without using the bonus Personas the game gives you.
Also want to recommend Dragon Quest 11. While it has plenty of nods to the older titles, you don’t need to know them to enjoy the meat of the game, and it’s as traditional as they come while being a genuinely fun romp.
Like a Dragon (Yakuza 7) is the only Yakuza game, to date, that’s a JRPG. At least in the way most people think of JRPG (turn based combat).
They’re all great games, just wanted to point out that only the one, so far, is a turn-based JRPG.
I think it would probably make for a great first JRPG experience. Persona 5 is pretty accessible, but it’s very anime and tropey. That said, I’m not a fan of anime and absolutely loved the game. Either would be a great starting point.
You’re in luck because 7 just happens to be a reboot (of sorts) with an entirely new protagonist, cast of secondary characters as well as gameplay. Even its setting and crime organizations steer away (mostly) from the previous conflicts of the Kamurocho red light district.
Yakuza also has the an advantage (IMO) that its “how anime bullshit is this anime?” is fairly low. The characters are actual adults, dealing with (mostly) relatable to real life issues, and even the stories that are far out there (such as fighting a giant roomba) are not very egregious.
I certainly prefer the series as a whole than Persona, which I admit is an unpopular take. If you’re ever curious about doing a deep dive, 0 is also very welcoming and its the (now canon) beginning of the previous series.
I can somewhat understand a company putting Denuvo in a new game until they recoup costs, I still won’t buy it until then, but I can understand the logic.
Having said that, I feel it should be a priority to remove it once they have got their money back.
Like a dragon is several years old by now and they have games even older that still have denuvo…
In Indonesia, they are painted black and white stripes like that to increase visibility. Heck, Jakarta used to paint them using colorful palette a while back, but recently went back to black and white. I personally prefer them to use colorful paints instead of just black and white, especially in urban areas where everything is grey already.
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