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jaackf , to memes in Why must we be done this way?

The amount of times I told my students they can use their phone for certain exercises, then 90% of them just went on Tiktok or played Clash Of Clans, is why is started not allowing phones.

I get that to the 10% it was super helpful but it’s just easier to not allow everyone.

user224 ,

Well, at least you gave them a chance. Thank you.

jaackf ,

I’m all for giving them a chance to prove they’re able to be responsible. Especially the kids that always try hard and deserve to be trusted.

I found that a lot of kids struggled to accept any consequences of their actions, though taking their phones off them for playing games was pretty clear to them.

Swallowtail ,

It would be funny if people were forced to do something akin to mandatory military service but for working at a school as a paraprofessional or other aide for a little while. I feel like most people really have no idea how much teachers have to juggle and deal with on a daily basis. Come see how my kids behave when left to their own devices and then judge me.

jaackf ,

For sure! A lot of parents don’t really understand the amount of stuff teachers have to go through either, and we don’t get paid for the hundreds of hours we do outside of teaching hours.

It’s why I had to quit in the end. Felt like I couldn’t give it my all because I was mentally and physically exhausted.

JoeBigelow ,
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Everyone should have to work a retail/customer service/care/teaching job, its eye opening the way people treat those they see as in their service.

trailing9 ,

Like flight mode there should be school mode where students can only use a provided wlan that comes with content filters.

jaackf ,

100%, if the schools were funded well enough, issuing school phones would be amazing!

School computers work well because they block most of the distractions but ofc students have 1001 distractions in their own!

Daefsdeda ,

Block cellular with thick walls, then only allow them through wifi. Things like youtube can only be acces with a cabled connection. Something like this seems like a good start.

user224 ,

Offline games entered the chat. ProtonVPN entered the chat (specifically Proton with their bypass methods). Tor entered the chat.

They don’t even need to know what VPN or Tor is, it’s just “Download this app to access internet, bro”.

Daefsdeda ,

If there was a sort of national system for it, maybe some kinks could be worked out. And if some people still succeed, sure let them have it.

Also, limiting it to offline only already makes a huge difference

nous , to linux in Linux can be used at your workplaces

Linux is ready for workplaces and has been for a very very long time. That is irrelevant if workplace IT support is not ready for Linux and has no budget or time to get ready for it. All your points are meaningless and have never been the problem. The problem is with management, policies and getting in house support for things and all the work involved in that. Depending on the size of the company it can take a lot of time effort and money to retrain IT staff to support Linux. And IT staff are already overworked, under-budgeted and don’t always have the time to support extra things.

sincle354 , to linux in Linux can be used at your workplaces

I've got a Linux work server because VHDL simulations are hella expensive. I have to say that if your team isn't willing to RTF-Man pages, you end up with a lot of cargo cult CLI processes. No crystalized knowledge or training, it's hard to start up in it. It's enough that requiring explicit Linux experience for new hires is preferable. Windows sadly has the familiarity benefit. And don't get me started on the wacky custom solutions the IT set up circa 2002...

Max_P , to linux in Linux can be used at your workplaces
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I mean yeah it’s possible, but the reality is that most people in the company will likely want Windows anyway, and use things like Microsoft Office and a heap of other Windows only software. Probably not the developers, but accounting, HR, and so on. There’s also sales but nowadays they demand MacBooks because of status symbol and apparently it sorta matters, at least according to sales.

As an IT department, if you can get away with supporting only one platform and even one model/brand of computer, it’s much easier. Maybe two so sales and devs get their MacBooks. Adding a third is asking a fair bit from the IT department, and it starts adding up to a really rare skillset. I know very few that are absolutely proficient in all three main OSes.

There’s also the compliance aspect. The reason my current company can’t support Linux users is InfoSec/compliance. Not because Linux is insecure, but because all the standards are written for Windows. You can argue all you want about how Linux doesn’t need an antivirus, tough luck, SOC2, ISO and also insurance policies all explcitly require “controls against malware” and firewalls with every OS held to the swiss cheese security of Windows. So each OS basically requires the InfoSec and IT department to write out unnecessarily detailed procedures and policies about all the security measures, for every OS in use. What antivirus runs, is it a reputable brand, how do you validate that it runs, how do you test that it detects malware, how do you validate and ensures that the incident gets reported, what tooling does the software gives you to establish the root cause and entry point, what exact user action happened that led to the exploit chain, what was the exploit chain, how you’re going to mitigate and clean up after exploitation, how do you know exactly what data was compromised, and so on and on and on.

Right now most vendors support barely support the current version of Windows and macOS (especially macOS, I swear the AV software is always holding back major updates for several months every release). Very few support Linux. So either you have an entirely separate policy and audit for Linux, or you just don’t support Linux.

We’ll see companies open up to Linux when all the vendors also start supporting Linux, and even then, with those that do, it’s a shitshow of only supporting the last version of Ubuntu or RHEL with pinned kernel versions and blatant GPL violations and GPL condoms and binary only kernel modules with no hope of recompiling/adapting them to the current version. The ClamAV trick no longer works, auditors now want real AV software with the whole exploit chain tracking I described. Which is also why those company computers are so damn slow, much slower than you’d expect. They scanning everything and tracking everything, every process tree, what spawned it, what user action led to it. My MacBook started feeling like a Dell Latitude from 7 years ago once they loaded up all the crapware on it. We had to reserve a whole bunch of extra capacity on the Linux servers just for AV to exist and do nothing because it’s all locked up in containers and SELinux policies and it takes a pretty bad 0day to pwn those.

If I was the IT guy, I would also struggle to even begin to make a case for supporting Linux and justifying the time and cost. I don’t like my OS, but I do my work on it, cash my paycheck and move on to enjoy my Linux machines off work.

nehal3m , to linux in Linux can be used at your workplaces

What about enterprise user and permissions management? AD is a draconic thicket of confusing spaghetti, but once setup it works. What’s the Linux alternative?

Cypher ,

LDAP, which comes in a bunch of flavours, such as Open LDAP.

d3Xt3r , to linux in Linux can be used at your workplaces

but I think they just are lazy to find out ways to provide this support

It’s not that they’re lazy, it’s a combination of not getting paid enough, and not having a reason to care.

If you were a high-level executive, I can bet you they’d at least make an effort to deliver something. Believe it or not, most people only do what’s needed of them as per their job description (and that too, the bare minimum to meet the quota/standards), unless their boss tells them otherwise, or some exec shouts at them, or that they’re actually passionate about something. If no one in IT is passionate about Linux, you’ll never get them to accept it, regardless of how technically superior it is on paper.

P1r4nha , to linux in Linux can be used at your workplaces

Sure, it’s IT teams that don’t want to support it. I’m lucky enough that our IT supports all major OSs and so we can more or less choose. Most tools certain jobs require however do dictate the OS. For SW development Linux is absolutely feasible.

blkpws OP ,

Yeah, my work doesn’t really support Mac at 100%, but we still use it as docker on Windows is much more a pain, so we are using Mac devices outside that Windows system controlled environment, they told us, and we lack the access to the VPN, still we use remote windows to access on our work network, and we can also use Microsoft Office this way and feels like having it installed on our Mac. (Our Mac don’t have licenses for MS Office)

So as I said, I’m tired of people making excuses… it’s perfectly valid 😭

dubyakay , to memes in Fourth and Long..

Not a meme. Not even funny.

Grayox OP ,
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meme /mēm/ noun 1. an image, video, piece of text, etc., typically humorous in nature, that is copied and spread rapidly by internet users, often with slight variations.

Spliffman1 ,
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2.?

pjhenry1216 , to memes in Fourth and Long..

Did he actually say this?

Spliffman1 ,
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That’s what I’m wondering

doctorcrimson , to mildlyinteresting in An "airport neighbourhood" where people can store their planes in their yard and taxi directly to the runway

I guess it works as a pilot neighborhood but Rich people would never want to live in such an obvious place. Makes them too easy to eat.

SendMePhotos , to mildlyinteresting in An "airport neighbourhood" where people can store their planes in their yard and taxi directly to the runway

Half a million per house isn’t really that bad considering it’s on an airport and you get a hangar

ggppjj ,

Yeah, but there’s an HOA. :/

SendMePhotos ,

Well for the airport cost, right?

ComradePorkRoll , to memes in Fourth and Long..

You made it!

Grayox OP ,
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Yeah, posted on lemmygrad.ml for a while, but got pissed off when they deleted a well thought out argument i made on why not voting is harmful for the Prolitariat in the Imperial Core. Wanted to wait for a while before i posted in another fediverse instance or whatever and decide to post here once i saw it was where you landed ha.

ComradePorkRoll ,

Sorry your experience has been so disappointing but glad to have you and your memes here!

kryostar , to memes in Fourth and Long..
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mambabasa , to memes in Worshiping the Grind is Basic
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The amount of days the proletariat wants to work in a week is zero, with work abolished and labor becoming life’s prime want.

JoShmoe , to memes in Fourth and Long..

Affordable housing is a systemic problem. Stadiums are built by a business. GM is a car manufacturing company.

PP_BOY_ ,
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stadiums are built by a business

Unfortunately most mega construction projects receive substantial help from the local governments because “they’re good for the economy”

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