Maybe, but they’ve also been well assisted by those countries which are shining examples of SC&L but have failed to get their messages across the world. Perhaps replies to this comment could indicate which countries those are, for some independent research.
With the state of Javascript being what it is, you probably can chain syllables randomly and have a fair chance of the resulting word being the name of a temporarily-existing framework
Not from “the west” from “the rich”. There are rich people in every type of economy that use their money to gain more power. One of the many ways that is done is with propaganda to convince those with less that the rich in power are not the problem.
Not every economic system, economic systems that place significant barriers against ballooning of individual wealth off exploitation see less disparity, and thus less of an impact of money on politics. Beaurocracy becomes a new kind of power currency, which is why much of the Politburo in the USSR was corrupt, though its worth noting that their disparity levels were lower than currently in the Russian Federation.
The Russian Federation’s “Oligarchs” are a spooky word for Capitalists that dodges the fact that they are Capitalists that took advantage of the collapse of the USSR to gain massive outsized power and wealth. The Russian Federation is Capitalist, not Socialist.
Not every economic system, economic systems that place significant barriers against ballooning of individual wealth off exploitation see less disparity, and thus less of an impact of money on politics.
You say not every economic system, but then you say less disparity, less impact.
Less disparity means there is still disparity. Less impact means there is still impact.
Because like I said, as long as there are human beings who want more power, there will be a struggle in any economic systems to prevent disparity.
That is because it isn’t the economic system that deregulates or undermines protections.
It is those who seek more power who deregulate and undermine protections.
And those people exist in all types of economic systems.
Even capitalist America had a point in history where disparity was low and the middle class and lower class thrived.
That is no longer the case because of those who removed regulations and changed the laws to suite themselves. And again, those people exist in every type of economy.
I did not say you could not eliminate the influence of money on politics, did I? You did. I countered it, and now you’re implying that it’s impossible to completely get rid of.
You can account for bad actors and power-seekers woth egalitarian distribution of power and a prevention against gaining in power.
What hierarchy? Statist hierarchy? That’s why the goal of Socialism is Communism, and nobody has reached Communism yet. Do you think we live at the end of history?
I think it can be achieved because it’s based in logical progression of real systems. If I can take your exact same argument and use it against Capitalism in pre-revolution France, with a similar lack of logical foundation, I don’t think your argument holds any water. It’s more like a strainer than a bowl.
If it just needs to be “based in logical progression of real systems” to achieve the goal, then why has it not succeeded yet after centuries of existence?
If I can take your exact same argument and use it against Capitalism in pre-revolution France
My argument that disparity is caused by people pursuing power and not economic systems?
Please explain how your example of France proves my argument wrong.
Here’s perhaps the funniest use of your own terrible argument: you believe that humans cannot land on Mars, because it hasn’t happened yet, at least if you’re at all logically consistent. You also believe the iPhone 20 will never exist, of course.
See why your argument that “if this is what happens over time, why hasn’t it happened now?” is horrible? You make no actual analysis, in fact, you run from analysis.
Just because something hasn’t happened yet doesn’t mean it is guaranteed to happen in the future.
I didn’t think that I needed to explain that to you. I was wrong. Sorry.
I am not saying things can’t happen if they haven’t happened yet.
I am saying if Socialism and Communism have existed for centuries and that whole time they have had disparity. What reason is there to believe that disparity cannot exist in socialist or communist economies?
I didn’t move the goalpost, Communism as a concept is a Stateless, Classless, Moneyless society that can be achieved after Socialism has built the groundwork for it. It hasn’t been achieved yet, because there have been no developed Socialist states yet, and Communism is a global, international system. It takes a long time to get there, it isn’t just something that poofs into existence.
It’s a Stateless, Classless, moneyless society. It’s hard to build, but it’s possible to build towards, and will take time and development to get there.
The best part about mad max is the fact that fuel is super limited, so these idiots build the most over the top fuel inefficient vehicles they can, truly a prediction of the future. Rolling coal truly knows no bounds
User: “I moved my PC to another desk and now my monitor is off. The hard drive is making noises though. All the power cables are in haha. I made sure the connections were all nice and tight it’s a bit strange.”
IT: “Okay I want you to follow the video cable from the monitor to the hard drive. It should have a BLUE connector at the end.Can you see the label where it is plugged in?”
User: “…yes it says ‘serial’, I think?”
IT: “Aha. I’ll drop around this afternoon with a spare monitor. That Trinitron monitor you’ve got will need to go away to be repaired.”
Flameout Professional Fire Services (i.e. no publicly funded fire department)
Johnny’s Good Eats Certification (i.e. no FDA testing to keep food safe)
SuperStonk Seal of Approval (i.e. no SEC regulating private companies, just for-profit companies doing that job)
Rodney’s Roads and Trails (i.e. all roads are private, you need a payment plan to use them)
Policing by Pinkertons (i.e. all policing is private and for-profit)
Job Insurance, LLC (you pay for private job insurance when you have a job, you hope for benefits if you lose it)
401(k), or starve (you didn’t contribute to your 401(k), that’s too bad)
Only private health insurance, no medicare, no medicaid, no Obamacare, no CHIPs, etc.
You could still have a military, but injured soldiers would be treated by private MASH units, soldiers would be fed by Taco Bell (paid for out of pocket), on base housing would be contracted out to AirBnB, aircraft maintenance would be contracted out to Boeing, and of course Veteran’s Affairs wouldn’t exist.
Except, even there, it was only a dream. Fascism may have elements of capitalism, but fundamentally if the leader is above the law, then private individuals don’t own the means of production, it’s only the leader who truly owns everything, and so it’s not really capitalism.
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