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girsaysdoom , to android in Are you excited about the upcoming Pixel 9, or have you given up on Google hardware?

I’d like to get a Pixel for GrapheneOS but I’m sorta waiting to see if the upcoming fold has pen support. If not, I’ll probably just get an earlier model since it’s cheaper.

boredsquirrel , to linux in Our lab is named after the goat
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Programming Languages today: Rust, Go, Typescript

Programming Languages back then: C, B, C#, C++

LOL

intelisense ,

C# is much more recent than C/BCPL etc. What’s interesting, though, is how many of C these more modern languages are inspired by C. C is also very much still in use!

LeFantome ,

The name C++ is an inside joke as ++ is the C language increment operator, meant to imply that C++ is an improvement on C.

I have heard several times that the name C# was meant to look like the ++ had been added again to the name C++. The syntax of C# was chosen to be familiar to programmers that knew C++.

If we are saying old languages use letters for names and that newer ones use words, it is worth noting that C# was also heavily inspired by Java, which came first. Both Java and JavaScript are from 1995 ( iolder than C# ).

In the grand scheme, Go is not much newer than C#. Go is from 2009 and C# is from 2000. That might seem like a lot but Go was intended as an alternative to C which is from 1972.

C got its name as a progression over B, which started the whole single letter thing, but C syntax was chosen to look like ALGOL ( 1958 ). So we have to blame ALGOL for the look of C, C++, Java, C#, JavaScript, and even Rust.

Two of the oldest languages as FORTRAN and Lisp. Language names were often abbreviations ( such as FORmula TRANslation for FORTRAN ). Lisp was originally LISP ( list processing ) but the name Lisp, from 1960, fits right in with Go and Rust I would say.

The trend is certainly towards more whimsical names though. An early name for C was NB which stood for “New B”. If it were named like we do today, maybe it would have been called “Newbie” or some synonym of that. I kind of like Punk.

cleverusername , to android in Are you excited about the upcoming Pixel 9, or have you given up on Google hardware?
@cleverusername@lemm.ee avatar

Never given the slightest flying fuck about flagship phones.

Current phone is an A52 that I bought on sale and intended to use for at least 4yrs.

Stop feeding the bullshit machine!!!

possiblylinux127 , to linux in IDE/Text Editor Recommendations for Go Development on Linux

I use VIM but I am not a Go developer

gimmemahlulz , to youshouldknow in YSK that you can run your own Twitch alternative with Owncast.
@gimmemahlulz@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

That’s cool and all, but who exactly is gonna watch it? Like it’s a fine idea, but there’s literately no point.

Soulfulginger ,

What do you mean? People watch twitch, why would this be any different?

Boozilla ,
@Boozilla@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly. People stream all sorts of things. I’ve seen tabletop wargamers doing it in the local hobby store, podcasters who send out links, virtual family get-togethers, etc. It’s awesome having non-corporate alternatives for people who want them. Not everything is meant to be widest audience possible.

NuXCOM_90Percent ,

And they find that because twitch is one of the biggest sites on the internet and has okay-good discoverability. And even then, it is generally weeks (if not months) of effort to get to the O(10) concurrents, let alone O(100) where it starts being profitable on time alone… let alone hosting.

Versus some random website on a meme domain that nobody will ever find.

Its the same with peertube and the like: The use case for individuals is near zero and it mostly exists as something to fuel sites like Nebula or floatplane that are trying to build their own services.

warm ,

People stream for fun, not just for money. If you start streaming with the intention of it becoming a career, you are doing it wrong.

Encouraging the use of alternative sites is the only way alternative sites grow, dismissing them because 'X site is already bigger, so theres no point' is supporting the "monopoly" problem.

Did you know, we used to visits hundreds of sites on the internet, it's only the last 10-15 years that corporations have managed to consolodate it.

NuXCOM_90Percent , (edited )

And you do know that there is a very big difference between hosting a text based site on tripod, an image heavy site, and a video site, right?

The reason The Old Internet died out is largely because of the middle. When you have zero revenue (because everyone runs an ad blocker) but people are shitting on you because your screenshots are only 640x480 instead of (oh dear god) 1080p? You start looking at aggregation sites that will pay that hosting fee for you. Hence, social media.

And then you have video. Even short clips could make your hosting bill explode. And sites like Rooster Teeth that pretty much existed solely on their ability to host a five minute video every week were basically constantly in a mess. This is why sites like Giant Bomb ended up starting with Mysterious Investors and ended up getting bought out.

Because you know what is also not good for “the ‘monopoly’ problem”? A site getting hugged to death the moment it is even mentioned on a low traffic subreddit/community. Which is what happens when people host their own video heavy sites. Which lead to adding advertisements and getting sponsored which leads to all the people saying they are an evil site and should burn in hell and here, let’s re-upload all their content to youtube or liveleak or whatever.


Even if you feel that no true art can come from anything profitable and all that stupidity that ignores that time and materials have a cost: Hosting also has a cost. If someone’s streams can’t even support the money it costs them to stream it? That doesn’t last long and can lead to a nice payment plan if your VOD goes viral while you are asleep.

warm ,

This attitude is how we got here, just let people have fun on the internet, not everything has to grow to be a replacement of something else. If people self host some streams for a few months and had fun, it was worth it.

NuXCOM_90Percent ,

Shame on me. If I just believe hard enough that will solve all bandwidth, data, hosting, and discoverability issues.

This is not at all a trivial problem. If it were, then aggregator sites like dig/reddit would have never taken over from message boards and youtube/twitch would have never beaten a tripod site with a relplayer (HISS!!!) video.

paraphrand ,

Cool, you know how to win on the internet, go off and do that.

sirico ,
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

Organic growth is kinda hard without any market presence.

gimmemahlulz ,
@gimmemahlulz@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Because no one knows it exists lmao

stickmanmeyhem ,

Not to mention the bandwidth costs… yeesh

batcheck ,

I don’t want to stream on Twitch, YouTube, or Kick. My audience is my group of close friends on discord. I’d rather not use the big platforms for multiple reasons. The main one being these platforms see everyone as numbers and have moved away from pretending to be customer focused and are all bottom line focused to a fault now.

So owncast. Quick webhook call to the discord servers announcing the stream started and people can watch me fail on League of Legends.

Side note, realize I said big platforms and discord is still in use. Moving friends off of discord is its own challenge. But I’ve been working on that.

gimmemahlulz ,
@gimmemahlulz@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Why… not just stream on discord? You’re already using it. This honestly seems like a lot of extra work for very little pay off.

skullgiver , (edited )
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

Discord’s video quality is pretty mediocre. If you’ve already got a home server somewhere and a decent internet connection, streaming 1080p or higher over this probably works better than streaming over Discord.

You can buy Discord premium or whatever it’s called, but that’s priced high enough that a home server electricity bill or even a VPS with pretty decent specs can be had for the same price.

As for why you’d go through the effort: same reason Linux users don’t run Windows, because they like the philosophy or because they want the control over their stuff.

Edit: also, streaming games from Linux through Discord still doesn’t support sound. I work around this by using Pipewire’s ability to re-route game output into the microphone input stream for voice chat, but that’s just a stupid workaround for Discord’s bad service.

batcheck ,

Also, if you want to stream to multiple discord servers there is not an easy way to do that. I have multiple friend groups and they don’t really mix. This is easier and it lets me fully use OBS without weird webcam integration from OBS to Discord.

teawrecks ,

It’s weird to me that people on Lemmy are asking “why not just use <for-profit platform at some level of enshitification> instead?”

TheSambassador ,

Over COVID, we started a bad/cult movie night that I streamed over Discord. Streaming via Twitch/Youtube would get copyright struck immediately. Streaming over Discord worked, but you have no real control over stream quality, and often the stream quality is based on the person with the worst connection. You also are locked to 30/60 FPS, which sometimes causes small frame weirdness when most movies are at 24.

An easy, self hosted solution is exactly what I wanted at the time. I played with setting up a streaming server but it ended up being too much of a headache at the time.

There’s a ton of valid reasons to self host. Just because you can’t think of any doesn’t mean it’s pointless.

acockworkorange ,

What I’ve seen on science creators on YouTube is that they’d still maintain a presence on yt but recruit people to watch extra/premium content on their other platform, one that allows them to keep more of the money they make.

Sometimes it’s a subscription service where the user doesn’t need to see ads and promos. Sometimes there’ll be content aware ads and it’s free, but the revenue goes straight to the creator.

It seems to be a viable business model.

Yokozuna , (edited )

Exactly my thought. At least the bots keep me company on twitch when I stream.

helios ,
@helios@social.ggbox.fr avatar

I disagree. I stream my games to friends regularly. Currently using a more basic approach (nginx rtmp mod, playback with vlc) because it runs better on my vps as compared to owncast which is more feature complete, but there is an actual use case for a self-hosted streaming solution.

gimmemahlulz ,
@gimmemahlulz@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

So honest question, cant you do the same exact thing with less than half the effort by just streaming to twitch it discord?

yonder ,

Same reason you use Lemmy over Reddit.

gimmemahlulz ,
@gimmemahlulz@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I use both. More memes more fun

helios ,
@helios@social.ggbox.fr avatar

Yes you can, and should if that’s more your speed. I just prefer not to use corporate services if there’s an alternative.

The rtmp server can be run with docker hub.docker.com/r/tiangolo/nginx-rtmp/

vinnymac ,

You could say this exact same thing about any invention.

“But why would anyone want to speak into a wire? There’s literally no point.”

“Are you seriously going to wrap your food in plastic? There’s literally no point.”

“Who will want to type on a phone without any buttons? There’s literally no point.”

“Nobody is going to want to eat meat grown in a lab. There’s literally no point.”

Not everything needs to be built with a use in mind, and even if it has a small user base at first, needs change over time. For all we know this is visionary and ahead of its time, but we don’t know it yet.

ReveredOxygen , to linuxmemes in I don't think I'll continue using Arch, btw
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This is why you keep a backup kernel

bad_alloc , to science_memes in W Earth

Imagine not even having a proper magnetic field smh

possiblylinux127 , to selfhosted in Why Prometheus + Grafana over other monitoring options?

I use InfluxDB plus Graphana

Mothra , to nostupidquestions in Where can I find rings with extremely rounded edges and half cylinders stacked above a flat band?

I tried reading this like three times and I’m not even sure how many bands in total your ring has, whether or not you actually have a round profile for some of the bands or if they’re all half round or if the centre one is flat at all.

My rec would be, google images of rings, and try to find something similar to what you have in mind. It’s going to be easier to say, “something like this but the outer bands actually look like this other ring right there” or something. Use the images as a starting point

DayOk2 OP ,

Okay, I meant literal half cylinders that are attached to the ring so that the main band has multiple curves from these half cylinders. The edges should also have bigger cylinders in them so that the ring is comfortable to put on and take off, and so that the the small and big cylinders have the same height in the top. This is what I want as the ring design:

  • Total width: 10 mm
  • Total height: 3 mm
  • Width main band: 4 mm
  • Height main band: 2 mm
  • Width middle gray cylinder: 3 mm
  • Height middle gray cylinder: 1 mm when cut off in half or quarters so that the half cylinder can be attached to the main band
  • Width edges pale copper cylinders: 3 mm, should be attached to the edges
  • Height edges pale copper cylinders: 3 mm because the extra 1 mm should match the height of the middle gray cylinder

Is this more clear, or should I explain more?

possiblylinux127 , to linux in De-duplicating/merging contacts in a .vcf file

I spend a considerable amount of time trying to find a solution for Nextcloud. I ended up spending an hour deleting and merging contacts.

Etterra , to science_memes in Potoos

Ah yes, the derp bird. Love this little weirdo.

BonesOfTheMoon , to nostupidquestions in How does renouncing citizenship work?

Sovereign citizens, the kind that call themselves American State Nationals, do this by getting a special fake passport from this website that mostly sells moonshine supplies but sells fake passports on the side.

This doesn’t answer your question but I think it’s really interesting so just as an aside.

emhl , to linux in Open source PDF viewer with Dual Page feature?
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Evince

freewheel , to android in Are you excited about the upcoming Pixel 9, or have you given up on Google hardware?

Moved to pixel from HTC for the fast software updates. My next phone will likely be a pine phone or something similar; build quality on my last two pixels hasn’t exactly been up to snuff.

ValiantDust , to nostupidquestions in Where can I find rings with extremely rounded edges and half cylinders stacked above a flat band?
@ValiantDust@feddit.org avatar

I don’t really understand your description and I’m guessing that’s the reason for the downvotes. What do you mean by (half) cylinder? Maybe you could try adding a sketch of what you mean?

DayOk2 OP ,

Unfortunately, I do not know how to draw the design because I am bad at drawing.

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