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Gee2oo40 , to sysadmin in Calling all /r/sysadmin reddit refugees!

Without RiF, Reddit has managed to push me away. I’m here via WefWef on Android. Thank you.

trailg62bim ,

I keep seeing people talk about wefwef but I dont see it in the play store. Do you have to install it separately? I know I can get it from their website but it feels a bit sketch that I dont see it in the play store.

ccunning ,

It’s a progressive web app. The web app is all there is.

Routhinator , to startrek in UPDATED 9-3: StarTrek.website - Lemmy info, FAQ, Patreon info, future plans, and more!
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Subbed and so glad to be here.

fiah , to nostupidquestions in So how long until the Fediverse is monetized?
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IMO whatever comes next needs to be decentralized from the get go, like a torrent system where the network sort of automatically scales with the user count. The fediverse is pretty cool right now but it’s bound to get shitty real soon as people get tired of fronting the costs purely out of goodwill. Either the cost need to be spread around such that the individuals paying it really don’t mind, or there needs to be an incentive to pay / way to monetize that is aligned with the common goal of a decentralized social network. Otherwise we’ll end up with either a network of insignificant size (arguably what this is now) or a monetized shit hole like what Reddit has become

I keep thinking about how a system like that could work but I’m sure someone smarter than me has already figured out that it can’t

PsychedSy ,

Even with these servers being paid for that’s kind of rough. It’s very hard to decentralize something reliable with solid data retention without paying.

fiah ,
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well it kind of works for piracy, but that’s because there are some very based people out there who take a lot of pride in seeding content that they want to keep available. Sort of like how the fediverse currently rests upon the shoulders of a few dedicated people who work hard to keep their instances alive under the onslaught of reddit refugees. I’d much rather have a system that doesn’t depend on people’s goodwill to survive though

aeluon , to sysadmin in Please don't zero out your account from *over there* if you've contributed answers or resources.

I’m torn on this and haven’t decided what to do. At the very least they will not be getting my knowledge posted over there any longer.

meteotsunami , to nostupidquestions in What is so great about Reddit/Lemmy apps?

On Boost for Reddit my home feed is only subreddits I’ve subscribed to. On the desktop and official app, it’s that new bastardized version of my subscribed subreddits and all.

I could save searches, I felt like it allowed me to view Reddit the way I wanted to view it. I don’t want to see half of the meme lords on all in my home feed.

meteotsunami , to nostupidquestions in What is so great about Reddit/Lemmy apps?

On Boost for Reddit my home feed is only subreddits I’ve subscribed to. On the desktop and official app, it’s that new bastardized version of my subscribed subreddits and all.

I could save searches, I felt like it allowed me to view Reddit the way I wanted to view it. I don’t want to see half of the meme lords on all in my home feed.

ToNIX , to RedditMigration in I was so hopeful that Reddit might see reason, but at this point, pigboy can take reddit and stuff it up his spez

I’m petty sure (and hope) that Reddit will slowly die. If a % of the users creating content that are not bots move to Lemmy or kbin, it’s game over for them eventually.

The only thing that’s quite sad is the amount of information you can find for an insane amount of problems. I hope that everything will get archived somehow.

Panzer517 ,

There should be an Reddit archive community here by now.

Cornpop , to showerthoughts in Lemmy is so good right now for no particular reason

Amen! It’s a little slow but I’m perfectly fine with that! Everyone here is vibing for sure!

Cornpop , to showerthoughts in Lemmy is so good right now for no particular reason

Amen! It’s a little slow but I’m perfectly fine with that! Everyone here is vibing for sure!

GatoB ,

Yeah, nice vibes

Mikkonaus , to fediverse in BlueSky invite

I have a couple of codes if someone still needs them. DM me.

Mikkonaus ,

Actually it’s easier to just put them out there. Enjoy.

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BlackSabbathFan1999 OP ,

It says “account creation is temporarily disabled.” Guess I’ll just have to wait.

operator ,
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on the bright side, that's...incredibly funny. musk done fucked up twitter so bad that at least two websites have crashed

PaigePalisade ,

Well, I’m surprised those weren’t taken

Dioz ,

Thank you, worked for me!

TravelsInObscurity ,

Well shit, thanks. Didn’t think that would work lol

RxBrad ,

Something tells me that once BlueSky finally decides to reopen sign-ups, these will all be ganked…

xc2215x , to fediverse in Discussion: Do you think recent Twitter mess up will cause new wave of #TwitterMigration?

Yeah, Mastodon will gain some more.

Mikkonaus , to fediverse in BlueSky invite

I have a couple of codes if someone still needs them. DM me.

Max_UL , to fediverse in BlueSky invite

Here you go: https://joinmastodon.org/ hehe I jest, sorry!

TheLurker , to nostupidquestions in So how long until the Fediverse is monetized?

Some people may monitize by having paid for subscriptions, like email.

Others will offer free services with banner ads on their site, like email.

Others will offer the service as a way to drive traffic and adoption of other services they offer, like email.

Others will run them at their own cost because they want to, like email.

Companies will run their own instances, like email.

Notice a trend here. For all of you who think the Fediverse is doomed because “ermegurd not platform, is gonna fail”. Umm, email?

fidodo ,

What is this email you speak of? Is it popular? Surely it can’t be that popular if it’s a decentralized open protocol and standard.

Bazoogle ,

Idk what it is, but I might look into it. My pigeon is getting pretty old

TheLurker ,

I saw someone mention it in a TikTok, so I think it is starting to gather in popularity. Probably not as much as Facebook but.

cogman ,

In a quest to kill spam, email has become somewhat unhealthy and centralized. Setting up a new email provider is a lot more difficult today than it was years ago. Sending a message to the established providers from a new provider will often end up in spam.

TheLurker ,

Email has not become centralised at all. You have a clear misunderstanding of what that means in the context technological services.

A centralised service is one provided by a sole or group of providers who decide who and who cannot provide said service.

Email in no way fits that description. You can spin up your own email server tomorrow and start communicating with the world through the email protocol standards.

admin ,

This is true but if you were to do that most people would simply not receive your emails. The fight against spam has effectively turned email into an oligopoly.

TheLurker ,

I don’t understand why you think this is the case, assuming you don’t run your own servers?

Apart from being a conspiratorial person, how can I spin up servers on new domains constantly and not have this problem?

I am not talking about creating new email accounts or using a shady VPS.

admin ,

I was replying to the part where you said that “You can spin up your own email server tomorrow and start communicating with the world through the email protocol standards”. While I agree that this is technically possible, it has become increasingly difficult (see this blog post for example).

cogman ,

You can spin up your own email server tomorrow and start communicating with the world through the email protocol standards.

You can, but as I said, because you aren’t a know provider every message from your server will end up in the spam folder of everyone using Gmail.

You won’t have a functional system unless you back it with either Gmail or Outlook.

TheLurker , (edited )

I have spun up a lot of email servers over the past few years for clients and not had the issue you speak off. Perhaps you need to look either at your implementation or maybe that you are doing it on a VPS provider with a shit record?

I have brand new domains with on-prem email servers spinning up constantly and do not have the issue you described.

If you are using hosted servers then perhaps you need to dump the host.

drphungky ,

It’s interesting to hear your take as someone experienced, because on hobbyist forums like /r/selfhosted I used to hear the complaint above all the time. Maybe people aren’t doing things correctly. I’ve never messed with my own email server and have no dog in this fight, but I’ve definitely heard that complaint a ton.

WheeGeetheCat , to nostupidquestions in So how long until the Fediverse is monetized?
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People could monetize individual instances. They can’t monetize the whole thing because its open source software.

I’m kind of shocked how many young kids don’t get this.

FarLine99 ,

It is okey not to understand it. Don’t be rude. You were also not born with knowledge of the principles of free software and fediverse.

WheeGeetheCat ,
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Yeah its more that I assumed each generation would get naturally better at tech, but its more like cars where the first generation knows how to fix them and subsequent ones don’t, because the cars get so good that you don’t need to

obviouspornalt , (edited )

There’s some truth to that. The computers I was first exposed to costs thousands of dollars and all you got was a text console with a prompt. You had to figure out how to make the magic box do something meaningful.

Now a Raspberry Pi computer with 1000x more compute power, memory plus network connectivity costs $6. The equivalent of the computers I originally learned to program on is now basically a disposable commodity.

henfredemars ,

I recently experienced this while building an upgrade for my 3D printer. The upgrade kit included a touchscreen. I found out later that the touchscreen was effectively its own separate computer with more than 10x more resources than the actual computer inside the 3D printer that was doing the most important calculations.

The compute and memory resource constraints were basically nonexistent factors in the design of the printer and the upgrade kit. Merely, a simpler computer was easier to design for and characterize, so the printer itself had a very simple computer, and for the UX, a “beefy” computer was much easier to program. It’s bizarre seeing how little the amount of computer resources mattered. It might as well have been free.

Samihazah ,

I really wish those 6$ raspies were easily accessible though.
Your point still stands, it wasn’t easy getting a tower in the olden days either.

drphungky ,

I really wish those 6$ raspies were easily accessible though.

Orangepi was the alternative for a while. There are lots of “knockoffs” that are even cheaper these days. RPi decided they wanted to focus on business customers first and have kind of strayed from their mission in exchange for (likely) perpetuity and subsidizing the hobbyists and poor people they are supposed to care about.

LTT did a good video on alternatives 4 months ago. That’s a while in this market though, so I’d definitely shop around.

obviouspornalt ,

I just bought a few at adafruit. I didn’t realize they were in short supply now.

ThrowThrowThrewaway8 ,

Shockingly- I’ve heard from a few of my teacher friends that the upcoming generation isn’t that computer savvy. (EDIT- “traditional” computers that is).

We’re starting to see the “tablet kids” grow up. They were raised with iPads and iPhones. And they didn’t have to deal with figuring out how to “deal with the inner workings” to download a bunch of computer programs. Their typing skills are apparently not that great as well for the same reason.

frozen ,
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This is the consequence of so many years of idiot-proofing things. While not necessarily a bad thing most of the time, having shit that “just works” absolutely ruins troubleshooting skills. I see it all the time with my nieces and nephews.

archomrade ,

I confidently told my retired parents that I thought we were approaching a world where self-hosting and open source would be far more common, I’m disappointed that it sounds as if I overestimated computer literacy in the new generation :(

sauerkraus ,

The average person is just as unlikely as ever to understand the processed behind the tools (conputers) they use. But the nerdy kids of each generation have more access to knowledge that lets them nerd out even harder. And the connectivity of the internet gets ideas shared easily. If someone is interested in a hobby these days they have a knowledge base that only the most dedicated nerds had back in the day.

sauerkraus ,

The average person is just as unlikely as ever to understand the processed behind the tools (conputers) they use. But the nerdy kids of each generation have more access to knowledge that lets them nerd out even harder. And the connectivity of the internet gets ideas shared easily. If someone is interested in a hobby these days they have a knowledge base that only the most dedicated nerds had back in the day.

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