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Seraph , to nostupidquestions in Could I patent harmful technology to prevent it from being put on the market?
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Patent law is a fucking mess, don't bother getting involved with it.

somnuz , (edited ) to nostupidquestions in Could I patent harmful technology to prevent it from being put on the market?

With all the other comments, it becomes pretty obvious that the easiest way to do it, would be being a multi-billionaire in the first place… Wait a second…

DrBob , to memes in US libs be like
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молодец, товарищ! демократы будут сбиты с толку твоей умной метафорой!

yogthos OP ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

found the lib

DrBob ,
@DrBob@lemmy.ca avatar

да, брат! продолжай в том же духе!

yogthos OP ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

I certainly will.

TheOubliette ,

Thought-terminating cliche

happybadger , to science_memes in Burning Up
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I like the saying “Fahrenheit is what you feel, Celsius is what water feels, and Kelvin is what the universe feels”.

Orcocracy ,
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Fahrenheit is what Americans feel, Celsius is what everyone else feels, and Kelvin is just Celsius +273.

hemko ,

Kelvin is just Celsius +274.15

Ftfy

gressen , (edited )
hemko ,

Oops you’re right. I just converted 1°C to kelvin and brain farted

agamemnonymous ,
@agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works avatar

Fahrenheit is what everyone feels. It’s a scale of 0 to 100 of how hot it is outside. Excluding extreme outliers, it covers the range of temperatures the average human might experience. In Celsius that’s like -20 to 40. I personally use Celsius anyway, because I don’t consider it much of an inconvenience, but Fahrenheit is certainly the more human-centric scale.

where_am_i ,

This is no way describes how I feel. I almost never experience below -5C, e.g. like 20F, but from there down it doesn’t really matter if it’s 10F or -10F. You need special clothing and then you’re fine.

While my pain point is at 95F, most people I know consider “hot outside” being around 80F, and “unbearably hot outside” at around 88F. So, how is this intuitive?

Honytawk ,

Fahrenheit is what that one German town’s lowest air temperature measured back in 1708.

If fahrenheit was what humans felt, then 50° would be room temperature.

JASN_DE , to selfhosted in Would you buy "self-hosted in a box" hardware?

The idea is that the router plugs in to your home internet and the server into the router. Between the two they get the server able to handle incoming requests so that you can host services on the box and address them from the broader Internet.

Why would I need a separate router for that? I’d need to configure the main router anyway.

NeoNachtwaechter ,

I would absolutely want the extra router because most people have one from their service provider. For self hosting, you want an additional router with your own software.

alcoholicorn , to science_memes in Burning Up

But really it is much better for human temperatures.

It’s just intuitive, 0F is 100% cold, and 100F is 100% hot.

When the dry bulb gets above 100F, wind only cools you down by sweat evaporation, and when the wet bulb gets above 100F, even that can’t cool you down, and you will die if you don’t get to a cooler or drier environment.

pumpkinseedoil ,

I love it when it’s -10% hot in winter nights or 110% hot around the equator. Makes perfect sense.

alcoholicorn ,

Yes, it does a better job of impressing that is all of the hot (or cold), and then 10% more than the difference between 38 and 43

flora_explora ,

Any of the systems is better if you have an intuitive understanding of it. I don’t know what 107 F would feel like, just as you don’t know what 42°C feels like. But it’s not a thing where one is inherently better than the other…

huf ,

i assure you, we who grew up with celsius absolutely know the dire difference between 38 and 43. 38 is death, 43 is the crimson realms where even souls wither.

all this “which one is better for x” is nonsense, you develop a feel for whichever you grew up with. it’s just that the math is less stupid with metric. that’s all.

IrateAnteater ,

“Intuitive” is a meaningless metric for a single scaled number. Whichever system you are used to will be the more “intuitive”.

Also, climate can play into which system feels more useful. Where I live, 100F occurs only rarely (and since air conditioning is almost ubiquitous, not something I’d bother looking out for), while 0C is an outdoor temperature that I do need to be aware of for half the year.

Donkter ,

I disagree that either would be just as intuitive. Fahrenheit being 0=cold and 100=hot is intuitive because there are a lot of things we do in the world that exist on a scale of 0 - 100. Percentages, just off the bat. Also, fahrenheit has a higher degree of fidelity in the temperature range that we use.

Celsius’s general temperature scale is like -10 - 40 which is absolutely not intuitive because it doesn’t look like any other scale we use as humans. I agree that we get used to Celsius fast and it’s a fine it’s not like it’s super confusing (and Celsius is so much more useful scientifically).

Wrufieotnak , (edited )

Which system did you grow up with? Because I grew up from the start with Celsius und it is 100% intuitive to me. Everytime you americans use your funny temperature numbers I have to stop and use a tool for transforming it or I simply ignore it and go “low means cold and high means hot, how high? Ain’t nobody got time for dat!”

So I disagree with your notion that Fahrenheit is intuitive. The system you grew up with and have multiple experiences as reference points for, is the system you feel is intuitive is also my opinion.

Lizardking27 ,

What you grew up with =/= what is intuitive.

That is not what intuitive means. You’re talking about what’s “familiar”.

Familiarity is subjective. Intuitiveness is objective.

Wrufieotnak , (edited )

If we want to go that road, intuition is according to Wikipedia:

Intuition is the ability to acquire knowledge, without recourse to conscious reasoning or needing an explanation.[2][3] Different fields use the word “intuition” in very different ways, including but not limited to: direct access to unconscious knowledge; unconscious cognition; gut feelings; inner sensing; inner insight to unconscious pattern-recognition; and the ability to understand something instinctively, without any need for conscious reasoning.[4][5] Intuitive knowledge tends to be approximate.[6]

Since every temperature system needs an explanation, namely the reference points, no system is or even can be intuitive per this definition.

we_avoid_temptation ,

That’s not either scale being intuitive or unintuitive, that’s your familiarity with one over the other.

I got curious so I did some research on the definitions and why everything is this way. It looks like they originally picked the coldest thing they had (brine, possibly inspired by the coldest weather), the freezing point of water, human body temperature, and the boiling point of water. It was supposed to be brine at 0, water freezing at 30, the human body at 90, and water boiling at 240. Fahrenheit then recalibrated his scale slightly to make his math (and thermometer design and production) easier, and also because he noticed water actually boiled at 212 by his newly modified scale.

Looking at it like that work the context of what they had at the time and what they were trying to do, it makes a lot of sense.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit#History

Donkter , (edited )

Never said either one can’t be intuitive, just that the scale of farenheit has a precedence outside of it being an arbitrary temperature measurement by being a scale that goes from about 0 - 100.

If you had never used either scale and some one asked: “which is more intuitive, a temperature scale where -10 is really cold and 40 is really hot or one where 0 is really cold and 100 is really hot?” I know which one I would pick because I’ve done things before like calculate percentages and work in a base 10 system so it makes sense for the scale to be between two orders of magnitude.

Wrufieotnak ,

But that is what we others are saying: there is no “more intuitive” system, just one you know better and can quicker evaluate how it would feel! So you agree with us.

Everything you said can be said about Celsius scale as well.

There is also a precedence for Celsius more than just an arbitrary number between 0 & 100.

A scale for liquid water, you know, the stuff that is the reason why we call our little spaceship "the blue marble"and why we even have this discussion, because it is the basis of all life on earth, is also not a bad choice for a number between 0-100.

And you made me curious: in what context did you have to calculate percentages of temperature that were not in Kelvin? Because as soon as percentages and temperatures are close to each other in one sentence the only example I can think of are things like reaction kinetic calculations and those are neither in Celsius nor in Fahrenheit.

Donkter ,

You should examine your definition of intuitive. Yes, technically nothing is intuitive it’s just based on what you know because intuition is also based on what you’re used to.

By your logic, if you compare a machine that powers on by pressing a big glowing red button labeled “ON” and one that turns on by you performing the haka in front of a camera while reciting a Shakespeare sonnet backwards you might say that there is no “more intuitive” way to turn on a machine, just one you know better and can perform quicker!

You aren’t reading what you’re replying to because I said in a previous post that it’s easy to get used to Celsius and fahrenheit and there’s no difference to either and I also already said that Celsius is better for science because it’s based on water.

Everything you said can be said about Celsius scale as well.

At this point you’re just lying or further proving that you didn’t even read the post you tried to respond patronizingly to. I said that the Fahrenheit scale is intuitive because it’s a 0-100 scale which is similar to other scales we use all the time and works well for our base 10 counting system being a scale essentially between two powers of 10. Neither of that can be said for Celsius and that’s so obvious I think you just didn’t read it before replying.

And hell, on top of all this, I think we should all switch to using Celsius! Because as I mentioned it’s easy to grasp both scales and using Celsius makes understanding a lot of science easier which I think is the only real argument in this arbitrary choice between the two! But I’m out here explaining the use of Fahrenheit because people here can’t grasp my explanation for why people might use it and are acting like they’ve got the defeater to a post they didn’t even read!

SlopppyEngineer ,

It has only been 100°F once in the last century. Nobody has any point of reference to make this intuitive. 30°C/85°F is defined as hot around here. 40°C/100°F is defined as national emergency.

Lizardking27 ,

“It has only been 100F once in the last century”

Lmao what?? Go ahead and find me a source for that.

I guarantee you it reaches 100F regularly during summer in many temperate climates, that’s not even including warmer regions.

Do you think your little small town is the only place in the universe?

SlopppyEngineer ,

it reaches 100F regularly during summer in many temperate climates,

Not when it’s near the sea, like most of western Europe. It’s the same shit as “why don’t you have airco?” Because it was never that hot.

Lizardking27 ,

Tell that to the gulf coast, or Mexico, or central America, or Africa, or Australia.

Your experiences are not universal. Just because you’ve never seen 100F doesn’t mean no one else has. That’s absurd.

TherapyGary ,

The heat index gets over 100°F in much of the southern US every summer

UlyssesT ,

Being 41% of the way to boiling water sounds pretty hot to me, too.

1rre ,

How is 0F 100% cold though, most places will never get that cold, so it surely makes more sense to have 0F at freezing point of water and 100F at 38C?

MadBob ,

Not to mention negative numbers.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

Freezing point of pure water - but saltwater/brine freezes as a different temperature.

Honytawk ,

0F is 100% cold, and 100F is 100% hot.

So 50% is perfect temperature, no?

lauha , (edited )

Lol, 0F is not 100% cold. That is barely cold unless you live in very warm place like tropic or something

alcoholicorn ,

Do you live in northern canada?

SpaceNoodle , to science_memes in Megatheraopods

Pierce, bludgeon, and slice.

tilefan , to nostupidquestions in Could I patent harmful technology to prevent it from being put on the market?
@tilefan@lemm.ee avatar

the US government would find some way to eminent domain it.

blackbelt352 ,

That’s… not how eminent domain works…? Like it’s scope only applied to stuff like building sidewalks, roads, bridges, and other infrastructure.

tilefan ,
@tilefan@lemm.ee avatar

yeah, I didn’t feel like going around to dig up the technical term. everybody knows what I meant, which is why I said it that way.

blackbelt352 ,

If you’re not going to take the effort type “can a government use patents” into Google and look at the top link. It took me less than a minute to find that government using a patent is just baked into the patent system. There’s not additional law around it. So it might be better to go the WD 40 route and never actually file a patent to the formula to avoid sharing the formula publicly.

ImplyingImplications , to memes in Emotional Damage

I knew a priest who liked to say he only smoked after sex.

driving_crooner ,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

Sadly, he passed away after being pancaked by drunk dump truck driver.

CluckN ,

I remember the funeral home was closed so they just slid him under the door.

Rolando ,

"With cigarettes, my wife and I, we made a deal. We only smoke after sex. I’ve got the same pack now since 1975. What bothers me is my wife. She’s up to three packs a day!” -Rodney Dangerfield

Imgonnatrythis ,

Uncomfortable forced laughter.

ImplyingImplications ,

I knew another priest who loved making “wife bad” boomer jokes at funerals whenever a surviving spouse died. Lots of “Her husband has been enjoying paradise in heaven…and now his wife is there…” and “st. Peter gives a test to enter heaven, you need to spell ‘love’. St. Peter wants a break and gives this task to a man who sees his wife coming to the pearly gates. He tells his wife that she must spell a word before entering heaven. His wife asks what the word is. The man says ‘onamonapia’”

Those definitely got some uncomfortable laughs

Viking_Hippie ,

Where are you finding all these awful priests? Are you secretly the pope?

Skullgrid ,
@Skullgrid@lemmy.world avatar

exposing the poor traumatised kids to second hand smoke on top? talk about adding insult to injury

Klear ,

I think the kids are bottom, not top.

foggy , to selfhosted in Would you buy "self-hosted in a box" hardware?

Market to tax funded institutions. If you can market “self hosted” as cheaper and easier than mother solutions you’ll have guaranteed clients for a long time.

EliRibble OP ,

That’s an interesting idea I hadn’t thought much about. I’ve been more focused on individuals than organizations. Do you have experience with tax-funded institutions? I assumed they generally have strict procurement rules and long support contracts with large established players by policy.

ftothe3 , to funny in So this guy believes in Nick Cannon, who has 12 children with six women

Wow what a list. Charlie Chaplin was a surprise!

Sundial , to funny in So this guy believes in Nick Cannon, who has 12 children with six women

He wants a baby making machine who is capable of dressing nicely and putting on makeup despite being heavily pregnant on top of taking care of 6 children all of whom are in the baby and toddler phase?

TexasDrunk ,

None of who appear to be theirs.

just_another_person , (edited ) to selfhosted in Would you buy "self-hosted in a box" hardware?

Oooohhhhh boy. Another one of these 🤣

It’s not like a package thing you can sell if you’re not supporting it. Then you’re just selling hardware at an inflated price. It’s not even self-hosting at that point. Why wouldn’t you just pay a regular company for a product?

EliRibble OP ,

Good point, I should have mentioned the plan is to sell support.

just_another_person ,

Then I’m not sure what the product you’re selling is though. Tech Support? That’s going to be a hard sell.

breakingcups , to selfhosted in Would you buy "self-hosted in a box" hardware?

No. People who want the benefit of self housing without worrying about hardware will rent a vps or something simpler. The hard part of hardware isn’t the purchase, it’s the maintenance.

Also, why the separate router?

EliRibble OP ,

People who want the benefit of self housing without worrying about hardware will rent a vps or something simpler.

That’s certainly an option. I think of dedicated hardware as working for several different people, some of which care a great deal about not using a VPS provider because they don’t trust them with their data, or don’t trust them to be around for a long time, or don’t trust them not to raise the prices.

The hard part of hardware isn’t the purchase, it’s the maintenance.

I’m inclined to agree, but I’ve been doing hardware for a long time as a hobbyist and I sometimes forget how far I’ve come. It sounds like you might be somewhat like me in that regard. I’m often surprised when people see assembling system parts and flashing an OS as a complex, inscrutable task.

What do you see as the hard part of maintenance? Scheduling time to do it? Unexpected errors or failures?

atro_city , to memes in Emotional Damage

Time to smoke one.

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