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bigboismith , to linux in Gentoo vs any other distro

Gentoo is basically arch but built around everything being compiled locally. There isn’t to my knowledge any “Gentoo-install”, but if you can manage to install arch manually it should be quite similar. Gentoo is a bit more complex than arch so if installing gentoo manually seems daunting I would recommend staying on arch.

meekah , to linuxmemes in type the distro you use and is and let your keyboard finish it
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Arch Linux user was a bit more stable and a bigger backpack for going the meme

Work a surprisingly well lol

JetpackJackson , to unixporn in [Plasma], with some '90s UNIX CDE flair

Very clean!

beefbot , to technology in Bots are running rampant. How do we stop them from ruining Lemmy?

Isn’t there code / the magic incantation of prompt text that we can deploy to get bots to reveal themselves? Even if it take more than one response?

Eyck_of_denesle , to linuxmemes in type the distro you use and is and let your keyboard finish it

Im seeing a lots of “in the morning” and “kids”.

biokernel , to linux in Gentoo vs any other distro

Does Gentoo have something special that other distros do not?

Isn’t there a Gentoo installer like with Arch?

Nope. That’s the “something special”. You do it manually with the help of a very well written handbook and learn a great deal about how an os works. IMO a great experience.

Honytawk , to science_memes in MSc Mansplaining

All of those faces look really annoyed.

If it doesn’t scream “mansplaining” it at least says “this meeting could have been an email”.

Leate_Wonceslace ,
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All of those faces look really annoyed.

That’s how you know you’re doing it correctly.

0x0 , to technology in Looking for advice on PC build for programming

As a rule of thumb i buy high-end to last me for ages.

I prefer Asus motherboards, the last one lasted 10 years and i only replaced it 'cos of bad diagnostics on my end.

I prefer AMD CPUs because, so far, AMD has stuck to socket upgradeability - that board came with an AM+ Athlon which i replaced with a Phenom. Current one’s Ryzen 5 and i can upgrade to Ruzen 9 if so desired. I’d say Threadripper is overkill, stay on Ryzen.

32 GiB RAM is nice, more is nicer, especially if you play with virtualization. You may want to remount your /tmp as an in RAM tmpfs (otherwise you won’t be able to compile firefox on gentoo).

I don’t care about graphics cards (beware some CPUs don’t support your mobo’s on-board graphics) but you mentioned LLMs… so… go gamer on that, can’t help you there.

Storage… really depends on your projects… 1TB HDD is more than enough for most stuff, find good brands within your budget/needs. I prefer SSDs because they’re quiet and curently have 3 Crucial MX500s on a ZRAID6 2 TB pool.

Same for fans: Noctua or be Quiet.

PSU’s probably… 400W? Dunno, always buy more than you need and you’re gonna need to feed that external GPU…

HubertManne ,

I feel you always want to spend at least the best price per value for power supply and maybe a bit more or even the pricey high end. Overall its a cheap part and so important to quality.

velox_vulnus , to linux in Gentoo vs any other distro

If you want a “special” distro, use something like GoboLinux, NixOS, Guix, ClearLinux, CachyOS or T2Linux. The rest of them are almost the same.

lord_ryvan ,

How are each of those special? And how are others, inc. Gentoo, almost the same?

velox_vulnus ,

Not falling for the debatebro bait. I’ve placed quotation marks around “special” for the same reason, stop putting your words in my mouth.

lord_ryvan ,

I did not mean it like that, at all.

You leave a comment saying these are special and all the others are more or less the same, but don’t explain how that’s the case.

I am genuinely asking.

exu ,

Different person, but I’ll try to explain some of what I know.

Traditional Linux:

  • read/write root and usr
  • only one version of a program can exist*
  • packages are available immediately after install
  • packages are imperative (you tell it what to do, it does that)
  • files swapped in place (can lead to issues like kernel modules missing or Firefox not opening new tabs until restart)

*you might have python3.8 and python3.9, but those must be created as different packages using different paths in /usr

NixOS, Guix:

  • declarative package management (basically config file and exactly these packages are installed)
  • usr and parts of root read-only (afaik)
  • packages symlinked to usr
  • multiple versions of packages kept locally (though not all active necessarily)
  • will keep using old package until restart/reboot, therefore not breaking on updates. New instances of a program can use the new package
  • easy to roll back due to multiple versions kept

Immutable OS (haven’t seen one mentioned by OP, but it’s a category):

  • often imperative package management
  • using snapshots or multiple root partitions for easy rollbacks
  • read-only root and usr
  • packages might only be available after a reboot (depends on implementation and if system packages or something else like Flatpak, which doesn’t need a reboot, are used)

SerpentOS:

  • experimental distro (ie stuff might change)
  • imperative package manager
  • packages installed to separate tree, but swapped live. Basically A/B root of an Immutable system that doesn’t require a reboot (according to the explaination in the latest blog post)

Not sure why ClearLinux is on that list of special distros and I don’t know half of the rest so yeah. Hope this explains some of it?

velox_vulnus ,

Apologies for being defensive, I accept that I am in the wrong here - I had to assume the worst owning to the silent-toxicity through down-votes, because they’ve assumed internally that I’ve called their favorite distro just the “same” as the distro that they probably hate.

A “traditional” Linux follows a FHS build, comes with a general package manager that is usually centralized, and can have one version of a program. You can only have one version of a particular program for the given OS version, and may have to use tools like venv or asdf to use older versions. Examples include Debian and Fedora, as well as it’s derivatives. These traditional distros come with profiles, or flavours, like KDE, GNOME, or some other desktop environment.

GoboLinux is the original Linux OS that deviated from the FHS layout. With this, now you could have multiple versions of the same applications alongside, without having conflicts. ClearLinux (from Intel) and CachyOS (independent) are distros that build optimized binaries. I’ve not delved much into either of them, but I would like to think that having a tuned distro is quite nice.

Henceforth here, most of the distros can be called as meta-distibutions. These are distros that are a little “flexible” when it comes to installing. There’s no pre-defined profiles and flavours, but this also means that you have control over what you can choose to install. Examples include Arch, Void, Gentoo and their derivatives.

Of these, Gentoo (back then - this does not hold true today) and Void are special in the sense that they came with the most barebone stuff, and you had to use their tooling to build Linux, as well as the entire desktop and application from scratch. I am not sure who the target audience might be, but I’m assuming that most probably this includes people who don’t trust repositories or substitute servers.

NixOS and Guix are functional, transactional and declarative distros that provides you with isolation via ephemeral shells - which can be either pure or impure, store-based file layout (hash, followed by package name and version) and the option to host containers and virtual machines within the OS as a neat in-built feature. Each time you “build”, you create your own distro generation, based on your own config, with the option to switch between them, without having to reboot. The store-based file layout was probably an inspiration from GoboLinux.

SerpentOS is a new experimental OS in development - from what I know, these folks have embraced memory-safe languages for their tools. Another cool features is that the packaging it is quite nice and uses the well-known YAML format, as an alternative to Arch’s PKGBUILD or Fedora’s spec. There’s a lot of experimental stuff that I am not following, but it also shares some features with immutable distros. T2 SDE (not T2Linux, my bad) is another such meta-distro that I am aware of, but I haven’t delved into it. It is being developed by Rene Rebe. There’s also other cool distros, like for example Bedrock Linux, or Slackware, but I don’t follow them a lot, so I can’t speak for them.

lord_ryvan ,

I did not mean it like that, at all.

You leave a comment saying these are special and all the others are more or less the same, but don’t explain how that’s the case.

I am genuinely asking.

lord_ryvan ,

I did not mean it like that, at all.

You leave a comment saying these are special and all the others are more or less the same, but don’t explain how that’s the case.

I am genuinely asking.

hungryphrog , to lemmyshitpost in I've bean missing these memes

Not pooping for three days back when?

Kusimulkku ,

Good times

hankskyjames777 , (edited ) to newcommunities in Fandoms - active communities promotion thread
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hungryphrog , to asklemmy in What nonmurder crime would you commit if all crime was legal for a day?

Go shoplift anything I want. Snack/trinket party!

Asafum ,

Banksssss! Rob banks! Then use that money to buy snacks forever!

hungryphrog ,

That’d require planning tho.

MonkderVierte , to cat in Crossed Paws

What you doing there, human?

Jimbo , to lemmyshitpost in Hello my name is Sacctonsayinlrlyn
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Hi, my name is

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JackGreenEarth , to til in TIL that it's actually possible to recover data after wiping metadata on Android, but I need you help with some info

I dont have that device, but just to point out for Linux users, you can install adb from your package manager and just type ‘adb devices’ in the terminal without anything else, you dont need to be in a directory.

Ghoelian ,

The package is called android-tools on Fedora, and probably some other distros as well.

I also don’t have that particular device unfortunately.

Crazyslinkz ,

developer.android.com/studio

Scroll down to linux and download the tar.gz.

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