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JeffKerman1999 , to technology in New study finds bots and fraud farms responsible for 73% of web traffic

Yeah dead internet. And I hope this news will kill online marketing for good

3TH4Li4 ,
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As long as real users exist on the internet, marketing will follow. If centralized social media will be even more of a shithole than already is, then they will slowly target the decentralized. You won’t escape marketing.

CaptainSpaceman ,

But if 73% of traffic is fake, and they monitor traffic to determine sentiment and marketing strategies, then who are they actually marketing TO?

CosmicCleric ,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Those left over who are still human.

But you do bring up a great point, what happens when the Internet is nothing but bots/shills?

JeffKerman1999 ,

Man they caught Google evil actors using Google’s infra that pumped up view numbers for video impressions and milking advertisers.

They got swindled millions by the 3ve “scandal”.

There’s botfarms clicking ads and following brands.

There’s warehouses full of smartphones that fake download and fake use apps and fake watch video ads…

At this point it’s a money laundering scheme. I refuse to believe that those people responsible are that stupid.

jetsetdorito , to technology in Solar power and storage prices have dropped almost 90%

POV reading this headline while paying $0.4-$0.5 /kWh

Tire ,

Are you using solar?

Buffalox ,

It’s the same here (Denmark), and it’s not about whether we use solar, but if countries more suited for it do, which should decrease the price of electricity across countries. Just like when the Ukraine war caused gas to increase in price, electricity of all of Europe increased in price, disregarding their use or dependency on gas.

Polar ,

Damn. Ontario Canada is 15.1-24 cents per kWh.

driving_crooner , to technology in Noise-canceling robots to 'mute' loud conversations in cafe | What if we told you that we can actually silence a noisy table right next to us in a café?
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They’re going to use that technology to spy us isn’t?

cooopsspace ,

Given that noise cancellation thus far as involved multiple microphones to identify background noise - yes

Ryantific_theory ,

Why does every cool innovation have to have an immediately applicable shitty implication 😭

ricecake ,

Eh, everything can be used shitty, but it’s often more work to use a cool thing shitty than it is to just be shitty.
Like you could do this, or you can put a cheap directional mic in the ceiling where it has free access to power.

Being able to beat someone to death with a defibrillator doesn’t undermine it’s value as a life saving tool.

Ryantific_theory ,

I mean, in this case all they need to do is attach data storage, and suddenly they have a massive data set of natural human conversation to sell to whoever’s training AI.

ricecake ,

Sure, but it’s still cheaper to stick a microphone in the ceiling.

And if you’re looking for training data, there’s cheaper ways still.

I’m not saying you can’t use this for evil, I’m just saying that it’s easier to do those same things other ways.

Ryantific_theory ,

I get what you’re saying, but what I was trying to get at was how a lot of these shiny cool things lately seem to be a way to easily package unwanted things. Google’s new AI integration openly reads and analyses everything you store and write in Google services, to assist you. People would be up in arms about slapping microphones around in public, but a public noise cancellation system that requires dozens of microphones constantly listening is just really cool.

There are easier ways, but the fact that it’s cool sidesteps almost all the resistance. Same way facial recognition cameras covering the UK is talked about as method to only catch criminals, not something that tracks everyone that steps outside their home.

ricecake ,

I think your Google example is a good one, but for a different reason.
Google was already analyzing everything you stored and wrote in their services; they didn’t need to use AI as a cover for doing that, they just did it. They didn’t even need to hide it or pretend they weren’t.

Yeah, people probably wouldn’t like microphones everywhere. Unless you just call it a security camera, and then we don’t notice them.
Why invent a novel dynamic noise cancelation algorithm and robot platform when plastic dome technology is so well understood?

People are cheap and lazy, and even when they’re being shitty they’re not going to do more than they have to, or overly complicate things.

Ryantific_theory ,

They didn’t even need to hide it or pretend they weren’t.

That’s the thing though, they did hide it and pretend they weren’t. Techies never trusted them, but the average user viewed google drive as a private cloud storage. Now, Bard is explicitly reading everything, training off of everything you have, and it’s being fronted as a step forward.

Most commercial security cameras don’t record sound, and most of the visible ones are dummy cameras just to make people wary. And again, there’s a difference between a single microphone twenty feet off the ground, and dozens perfectly recording every word every single person speaks in the cafe.

I’m not making the argument that noise cancellation tech is being made so that people can be recorded, I’m making the argument that if noise cancellation tech works, they will 100% use it to capture high quality recordings of every spoken word to sell as a side benefit.

topinambour_rex ,
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Why would they do this ? They already do it through your smartphone.

driving_crooner ,
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They’re different people.

KairuByte ,
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This tech isn’t at all needed to spy on you.

prole ,

I was going to say, wouldn’t this require recording of literally every noise around you in order to cancel it out?

driving_crooner ,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

They already do that in order to cancel everyone sounds, your conversation is the noise of the next table.

weew , to technology in Luxury supersonic jet will fly from NY to London in 3 hours

but will it fly fast enough to outrun bankruptcy?

it’s not like the concorde’s failing was anything technological…

takeda , to technology in World’s first diabetes cure with cell therapy achieved in China

We saw other similar news from China which turned out to be a bunk. I wouldn’t hold my breath. I would love to be wrong though.

TheAnonymouseJoker ,
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Sad to see r/futurology racists migrating here…

hash0772 ,

Hating on China doesn’t mean you’re hating on the Chinese people.

TheAnonymouseJoker ,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

98% Chinese people approve of their Chinese government. You are indeed hating on Chinese people. This liberal excuse is as old as time.

hash0772 ,

At gun point, lol. Authoritarian cunts like you should raise their voice up a bit more so I can block them too.

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  • Flatworm7591 ,

    The fact you accept that 98% statistic with total credulity is telling. The Ceaușescu government in Romania also claimed similar levels of support. So does Putin. What’s the one thing they have in common?

    TheAnonymouseJoker ,
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    I do not know about them, but I know for a fact that you have a lot in common with those NATO/Washington Nazis.

    Flatworm7591 ,

    Fashjacketing anyone who criticises China’s government says more about you than me.

    scratchandgame ,

    This is the first time I saw you saying something correct.

    Danterious , (edited ) to technology in US races to develop AI-powered, GPS-free fighter jets, outpacing China

    Once these get advanced enough and the human cost of starting a conflict goes to zero (because they most likely will be able to scale these to whatever kind of conflict is wanted) why wouldn’t countries be more likely to start a war.

    Or if most regular military battles only become an economic problem then why wouldn’t an enemy turn towards more terrorist like attacks like happened in Russia with ISIS.

    https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode.en

    Siegfried ,

    Not the archers. My scouts tell me their archers are miles away and no threat to us. Arrows cost money. Use up the Irish. Their dead cost nothing.

    any british since William the Conqueror

    We are always cheaper

    gregorum ,

    TOS - S01E03 -

    Death, destruction, disease, horror. That’s what war is all about, Anan. That’s what makes it a thing to be avoided.

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    flop_leash_973 , to technology in US concerned NASA will be overtaken by China's space program

    I’m sure throwing more money and contracts at Musk and SpaceX is going to help solve the problem any day now. /s

    Pxtl , to technology in A hidden deposit of lithium in a US lake could power 375 million EVs
    @Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

    Or about 5 f150 lightnings

    Ilovethebomb ,

    Me drive car, why anybody need truck?

    Towing? What is towing?

    andrewth09 ,

    Europe has cars with towing packages that aren’t trucks

    xhci ,

    Playing devil’s advocate, but Europe is also a lot smaller than the USA with better transportation and delivery options.

    Yes, 95%+ of people in the USA don’t need trucks, but there is a larger need for them here. I can’t snap my fingers and have a lumber delivery for contractors happen in parts of the US, for example. Logistics are much easier in smaller countries.

    edit: perfect example - I just helped build a structure on a mining claim in national forest. No one will deliver down a jeep road, but an F-150 was perfect for us.

    Ilovethebomb ,

    The 150 lightning can tow 4.5 tonnes, no car can match that.

    spongebue ,

    What if I told you there are more practical vehicles out there that can also tow things, and few people actually tow anything particularly heavy?

    Ilovethebomb ,

    few people actually tow anything particularly heavy?

    Therefore nobody needs a truck?

    spongebue ,

    If that’s what I thought, I would have said “no people” instead of “few people”

    There are a ton of pickup trucks on the road. The Ford F-Series has been the best selling car in the US for decades. Since the context is about that and towing, do you really think the number of pickups on the road is proportional to people who really need that kind of towing capacity as they drive around suburbia?

    affiliate , to technology in New study finds bots and fraud farms responsible for 73% of web traffic

    i hate it when i open my laptop and there’s an error sign blocking the trackpad

    OldWoodFrame , to technology in China shares ambitious plans to double its space station as the ISS approaches the end of its life cycle

    I don’t really understand how the entire ISS could be “end of life cycle.” Aren’t there a bunch of different modules of different ages? And anyway, the oldest modules are 24 years old that is nothing with proper maintenance, there are 50 year old trains still in operation daily.

    Beardsley ,

    Space trains fall under a different regulating authority than space stations, unfortunately.

    SkyeStarfall , (edited )

    If a train fails, at worst that will happen is it will stop. When a space station fails, the worst that will happen is everyone inside dies.

    In addition, a space station is far more expensive, and it may be simply too expensive to still maintain old technology. Ideally, at some point, one will replace it with a newer, more modern, space station. Which will both be cheaper, and allow more, novel, science to be done. Although I don’t know if there is any plan for that.

    I’d like to see a space station with a rotating ring, that generates artificial gravity through centrifugal acceleration.

    TotalTrash ,

    Lol that’s nowhere near the worst scenario for a train failure.

    0x0 ,

    I don’t know why can’t they just send it to a Lagrange point and leave it there. Burning it seems like literally burning money.

    CptOblivius , to technology in Solar power and storage prices have dropped almost 90%

    I looked into getting solar installed. Best I could get in my area was $45k for a 10kW system or $97k for a 20kW with 2 power walls for storage. F that, even with government subsided rates.

    Cryophilia ,

    That’s just absurd, why is it so expensive for you? You could install it yourself for the most part, it’s not super complicated, just physically difficult. And then pay an electrician $500 to connect the inverter to your main panel.

    CptOblivius ,

    Lack of competition, but mostly greed.

    joshuanozzi , to science in Genetically modified bacteria may eat up ocean plastic waste
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  • BeigeAgenda ,
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    Makes me think of that Cronenberg episode of Rick and Morty - Rick Potion No. 9.

    thehatfox , to technology in Rogue AI bot is giving recipes for human flesh and chlorine gas
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    This is what happens when LLMs are blindly slapped onto anything and everything. There’s been plenty of other recent examples, but the hype train doesn’t show any signs of slowing down yet.

    There’s a lot of interesting ML tech appearing but we really need to start grounding our expectations of it.

    GnomeKat , to technology in Massive explosion rocks SpaceX Texas facility, Starship engine in flames
    @GnomeKat@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Seriously how are space launches a priority right now when we are facing global ecological collapse

    AdrianTheFrog ,
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    You could say the same thing about literally any industry and it would be just as true

    GnomeKat ,
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    I could probably say the same about AI and crypto and mega yachts sure

    But healthcare, housing, education, childcare, sustainable green energy, sustainable food production… All of them seem way more important than sending more junk into orbit.

    AdrianTheFrog ,
    @AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

    I mean you could say the same thing about the whole entertainment industry, or the whole tech industry, or basically anything else that isn’t directly necessary for human survival.

    All of them seem way more important than sending more junk into orbit.

    Do you know what actually goes into orbit? Mostly 4 categories: communication satellites (both commercial and governmental), scientific monitoring, ISS support, and military satellites. Every satellite we send into space has a purpose. Without satellites, we don’t get: widespread aerial imagery, accurate weather forecasting, GPS, widespread ecological data, etc.

    Teppichbrand ,

    I ordered my horse out of the stable. The servant didn’t understand me. I went into the stable myself, saddled my horse and mounted it. I heard a trumpet blowing in the distance and asked him what it meant. He knew nothing and had heard nothing. He stopped me at the gate and asked: “Where is the Lord riding to?” “I don’t know,” I said, “just away from here, just away from here. Always away from here, that’s the only way I can reach my destination.” “So you know your destination,” he asked. “Yes,” I replied, “I told you: ‘Away from here’ - that’s my goal.”

    Franz Kafka, 1920

    Rinna , (edited ) to technology in US concerned NASA will be overtaken by China's space program
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    Dang maybe we should take a fraction of the trillions we spend on the military to fund scientific research, and also health and education while we’re at it so we’d get even more potential scientists.

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