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MisterD , to noncredibledefense in Virgin Everything vs Chad Stargate

Meanwhile true SG fans cry in P90s

Alexstarfire , to noncredibledefense in Virgin Everything vs Chad Stargate

Pretty sure the P90 is the equivalent for Stargate.

nuke OP ,

gestures to Ma’Tok staff weapon

This is a weapon of terror. It’s made to intimidate the enemy.

gestures to P90

This is a weapon of war. It’s made to kill your enemy.

aeronmelon ,

Most brilliant moment in all of science fiction. Actual demonstration of an actual weapon mixed with meta commentary on science fiction weapons in general and how villains can’t ever seem to shoot straight.

HobbitFoot ,

I don’t know if I would say “in general”, but definitely in the Stargate universe.

It doesn’t make that much sense for Star Wars, but then the universe doesn’t really explain a lot why, just that things are the way they are.

Star Trek seems to deploy handheld energy weapons because they provide a greater range of responses, from less than lethal to able to take out armored opponents with a single weapon.

mosiacmango , (edited )

If you’ve mastered storing energy densely, energy weapons are just way better than ballistic ones. You get way more “ammo” out of the them and more flexibility as you say.

Stargate just had intentionally stupid energy weapon usage. The staffs were just bad overall, including in melee. A gun you aim by swnging it on top of your shoulder, that fires incredibly slowly and inaccurately that barely has as much punch as a 5.56 round? That you also use as an incredibly top heavy and slow bo staff? What are you idiots doing?

Meanwhile they have Zats, which are amazing, and barely use them. Rapid fire wide projective pistol grip guns that you can duel wield that instantly down your enemy in one hit, regardless of where you hit them? You have these shits on hand but all you motherfuckers are running around with cumbersome staffs?

Why Stargate command never made a zat rifle is beyond me. A P90 stock with unlimited ammo that was by default non lethal? Why the fuck are you not doing that?

HobbitFoot ,

I look at it like the Gou’auld has levels to their militaries, with the bulk of them being geared towards internal security. If these troops flipped, the Gou’auld could later deploy better military to take out the initial troops.

It also helped that any tactics that rebels used successfully against the first set of forces would likely fall apart against the reserve set.

mosiacmango ,

See, I dont buy it. You dont see these troops ever. You do see the Gou’auld with the bog standard Jaffa always at their side, even as their personal entourage. If they had “shock troops” or star wars style “red guards” they would have shown them in the series.

The closest is the super assassins that are occasionally invisible, but they mainly just use a knife, and are never defensive.

I think after thousands of years of just Jaffa vs Jaffa, a race of being with healing powers, their warrior culture got very ritualized and stagnate. The staff weapon is considered thr “honorable” weapon, even though its immensely stupid.

The very minute an outsider comes in with a dumb ballistic gun that shoots 900 rounds/minute, suddenly entire Jaffa squadrons of 100yr+ old warriors are getting mowed down like saturdays grass by a 4 man team consistently of 2 warriors, a warrior scientist and am archiologist that carries a 9mm.

When 9mm linguist man is whooping warriors with a centuries experience emass, yall fucked up.

teft ,
@teft@startrek.website avatar

You dont see these troops ever. You do see the Gou’auld with the bog standard Jaffa always at their side, even as their personal entourage. If they had “shock troops” or star wars style “red guards” they would have shown them in the series.

Serpent guards are the elite of apophis. Other goa’uld have similar elite forces that guard the goa’uld. The First Prime is the foremost jaffa in the goa’uld’s personal guard.

mindbleach ,

Nevermind the US Military having magazines that fire red-laser stun rounds. We see them abundantly in one episode, and then I assume the writers agreed to pretend we didn’t.

mindbleach ,

The Federation also has deliberately unwieldy weapons, to discourage solving problems through violence. The redesigned phasers for the 1990s were so awkward that actors in combat-heavy episodes complained. That’s why late-90s Trek introduced rifles.

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

I love that scene so much

HobbitFoot ,

Or how the Asgardians kind of look down on human tech as primitive and yet have to bring in humans for help because they solve problems.

Like having a weapon to kill Replicators that accelerate a metal chunk with a chemical explosion.

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

you know i like to compare this to how we view the bow and arrow compared to guns

yeah the bow is primitive but it also doesn’t shred your eardrums and arrows can usually be fired again, which makes it actually pretty good for hunting even to this day!

Socsa ,

And also, a railgun is just a bow with extra spicy string.

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

well, crossbow i’d say but a crossbow is just an improved bow so it evens out

rekabis ,

Yeah, C4 is not exactly a ranged weapon unless it’s paired with an impact detonator and flung via trebuchet.

Decoy321 ,

And lightsabres are?

ma11en ,

If you’re returning blaster bolts.

FaceDeer ,
@FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

A Jedi vs. a random Tau'ri with a P90 would hardly be a fair match. The Jedi wouldn't know what hit him.

Gurei ,

Slugthrowers are a viable weapon against jedi, old canon at least.

FaceDeer ,
@FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

I've had Star Wars fans argue vigorously that a Jedi could deflect a cloud of buckshot with a lightsabre. I'm a Star Wars fan myself but that's a sure sign of someone who's gone completely off the deep end. It's a very basic question of simple geometry - you can't intercept every pellet in a three-dimensional cloud with a two-dimensional rod regardless of how fast your precognitive reflexes are.

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

it’s not even two dimensional, it’s one dimensional!

FaceDeer ,
@FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

Ah, brain fart, indeed.

setsneedtofeed ,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

I’d sooner accept stopping all the pellets using the force, like Neo did in the second Matrix movie.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

Don’t Jedi throw them all the time? Like doing spinning out boomerang moves or is that just the games?

stoy ,

Yeah it happens, but the bright light from the blade makes it clearly visible meaning that in a real battle your enemy would see where you are and kill you before your boomerang would come back to you

aeronmelon ,

“Yeah, C4 is not exactly a ranged weapon”

Not with that attitude it isn’t.

tetris11 ,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

Its like he’s never even kissed semtex

rustyfish ,
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

Then we just strap naquadah on the C4 and blow the whole continent up. There you have your range.

setsneedtofeed ,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

Claymores certainly have range.

xyguy , to risa in Insert witty title here

The main guy on this episode seems like a 1980s wrestler. Especially with the shiny outfit.

LemmyKnowsBest , to memes in Hmm like food

I guess the FDA did all they could to protect me before he bought those items from the grocery store.

Now I’m supposed to be okay with him licking and sweating all over the kitchen prep food because it’s supposed to be sexual, right?

gamarus , to memes in Hmm like food

yummy

killeronthecorner , to programmer_humor in Debugging
@killeronthecorner@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not sure if this is a direct quote from Your Code as a Crime Scene, but it’s a good book and takes this same stance!

idunnololz , to programmer_humor in Debugging
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

Hey. Sometimes the bug is in a third party library. I didn’t do it. I swear!

CJOtheReal , to programmer_humor in Debugging

Its usually a typo lol

Surp , to programmer_humor in Debugging
@Surp@lemmy.world avatar

You could technically do this just like how GTA Vs gameplay was with all the different characters.

MurdoMaclachlan , to programmer_humor in Debugging
@MurdoMaclachlan@lemmy.world avatar

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Zacryon ,

Good human.

DeltaTangoLima , to programmer_humor in Debugging
@DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com avatar

My biggest problem isn’t discovering my own crime. It’s trying to determine what my motive was at the time.

agent_flounder ,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

“I plead insanity”

Gormadt OP ,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Usually my motive is, “It’s 3am I’ll just put this temp placeholder here and fix it in the morning.”

Proceeds to not fix it due to forgetting by the morning

atomkarinca , to programmer_humor in Debugging

thank god that there’s a print function in every language.

odium ,

The worst is when you’re print statements aren’t outputting where you expected them to, and you have no idea where they’re outputting to.

Redkey ,

I tought myself programming as a kid in the 80s and 90s, and just got used to diagnostic print statements because it was the first thing that occurred to me and I had no (advanced) books, mentors, teachers, or Internet to tell me any different.

Then in university one of my lecturers insisted that diagnostic prints are completely unreliable and that we must always use a debugger. He may have overstated the case, but I saw that he had a point when I started working on the university’s time-sharing mainframe systems and found my work constantly being preempted and moved around in memory in the middle of critical sections. Diagnostic prints would disappear, or worse, appear where, in theory, they shouldn’t be able to, and they would come and go like a restless summer breeze. But for as much as that lecturer banged on about debuggers, he hardly taught us anything about how to use them, and they confused the hell out of me, so I made it through the rest of my degree without using debuggers except for one part of one subject (the “learn about debuggers” part).

Over 20 years later, after a little professional work and a lot of personal projects and making things for other non-coding jobs I’ve had, I still haven’t really used debuggers much. But lately I’ve been forcing myself to use them sometimes, partly to help me pick apart quirks in external libraries that I’m linking, and partly because I’d like to start using superscalar instructions and threading in my programs, and I remember how that sort of thing screwed up my diagnostic prints in university.

embed_me ,
@embed_me@programming.dev avatar

Even worse is when print statements cause the bug…

That was me before discovering interrupt safe print functions.

henfredemars , to programmer_humor in Debugging

You’re sure that there was a crime? You’re fortunate that your bug is consistently reproducible.

Gormadt OP ,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

My “favorite” is when following the steps to reproduce a specific bug you get an entirely different bug then what was reported

Amends1782 ,

Actually think about that shit when I’m trying to sleep

sbv ,

Alleged crime.

kopczak1995 ,

Git blame would like to have a word with you.

NocturnalMorning , to programmer_humor in Debugging

I know there’s a crime because my code runs, but it doesn’t do what I asked it to do.

Zacryon ,

The fact that it runs means that it has something delinquent to it. Otherwise it wouldn’t run. Better run after it and catch it. /j

(That was a bad pun and I am not sorry. It’s 3 am here and I can’t sleep. This helped me to burn a minute. Thank you.)

Aurenkin , to memes in HOI players are built different

Global tension +15%

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