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modifier , to noncredibledefense in 👉👈 What if we kissed by the dismantled MIG-29s in the Polish countryside?

We could take a walk and you could kiss me on the veranda

bradorsomething ,

“The lips would be fine.”

sartalon , to noncredibledefense in 👉👈 What if we kissed by the dismantled MIG-29s in the Polish countryside?

This sounds wildly implausible, or at least very exaggerated.

I’ve worked on jets. If you put them in pieces, you are talking months (at least 3-6), to put them back together. Modern jets aren’t Legos. They are very complex machines that require testing and fine tuning.

Most flight surface controls and engines parts have flight hour limits that are painstakingly logged so preventative maintenance maximizes service lifetime. When we transferred jets, we also delivered their maintenance history.

When we mothball aircraft, we only remove certain components and basically seal it up. To take it out of mothball and reassemble it, under normal circumstances, you are talking 8 months.

Maybe they surreptitiously transferred aircraft to Ukraine, I can believe that. But if they broke them down into individual parts and said, “Here you go!”, the proper response would be, “Go fuck yourself.”

I imagine this story started out one way and has just been embellished each telling.

InfiniteStruggle ,

Maybe they just rolled the jets there, took the hubcaps of the fuel inlet off of every one of them (so that they are “disassembled”) and then let ukraine know.

So still technically correct and within international arms trade law, but the jets got through without needing too much reassembly.

Maybe put some clingwrap or something over the inlet so moisture doesn’t get in.

avrachan ,

So still technically correct and within international arms trade law, but the jets got through without needing too much reassembly.

that’s very interesting!!

where can I learn international law regarding the transfer of military aircrafs?

geophysicist ,

Where does it say completely broken down to individual parts? That bit is probably intentionally left vague

avrachan ,

only reasonable comment in this entire thread.

bradorsomething ,

These are russian jets, the ak-47s of jets. You can take one out of the mud and it will still fire.

Liz ,
WoefKat , to noncredibledefense in 👉👈 What if we kissed by the dismantled MIG-29s in the Polish countryside?

Whyd they even need the US’ blessing? Normally the country that manufactured the arms has a veto but in this case that was Russia. So who cares?

Of course Russia would have vetoed these jets being used against them so it sounds like this 'rule ’ doesn’t always apply either.

But well done to the polish. Of course they know what it’s like to be first on the chopping block, sadly.

AccmRazr ,

It’s written in the Nitter link but Poland wanted the backing of the US in the event Russia would attack Poland. They wanted it to be an “Allied” decision as opposed to just a Polish decision.

crispy_kilt ,

Same reason even major powers like Germany coordinate with the US when it comes to giving Ukraine weapons: the US is the only country in the world at the moment that is completely invincible, so having it share the responsibility is a good idea

avrachan ,

US invincibility was proved when they won the Vietnam War.

crispy_kilt ,

Defending and attacking are two different things. I meant the US cannot be defeated by an attacker.

avrachan ,

then Russia makes a better example of a invincible empire.

Sweden, France, Germany have all tried at their peak strength to conquer Russia and failed.

USA with its geographical isolation has been lucky in that regard.

crispy_kilt ,

Maybe in Tsarist and Soviet times. Today, not so much.

avrachan ,

do you have an example of Russian federation being defeated in an attack?

crispy_kilt , (edited )

Уйди, московский тролль.

avrachan ,

yeah I had to use Google translate.

still no examples

b3nsn0w ,
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do you have an example of the russian federation getting attacked by a near-peer adversary without the now defunct soviet union defending it?

WoefKat , (edited )

Yah a fully expendable population makes for unlimited cannon fodder :(

Edit: Not saying Russians are expendable. Just saying that their previous dictatorships (and arguably the current!) considers them as such. I have nothing against Russians but I do against their governments.

It’s mad to think this country has only had a democracy for a year or so in the 90s. Which began with the fall of the USSR and ended with Yeltsin’s coup.

crispy_kilt ,

Russians aren’t more expendable than any other human being. They’re just being treated as such by their fascist regime. I know it’s easy to start thinking badly of all of them because of the idiotic war, but they’re human beings too. The ones outside of the kremlin at least.

WoefKat ,

Sorry, I didn’t mean Russians are expendable of course! (Hence the sad smiley). In fact I was lamenting the way the Soviet and Tsarist governments treated their population. Sorry if this wasn’t clear.

And I’m sure 90% of Russian soldiers are not happy to fight this war either. I’m sure they’d prefer being home with wife & kids rather than dodging bullets.

kersploosh , to noncredibledefense in 👉👈 What if we kissed by the dismantled MIG-29s in the Polish countryside?
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And where did you get those unmarked crates of R-27’s?

They fell off a truck. Now stop asking questions.

nuke OP ,

Launch missiles and sell them to Ukraine midflight

We do a little trolling…

https://files.catbox.moe/ecs9vj.webp

petrescatraian ,

IKEA

skillissuer ,
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You can buy these A2A missiles in any missile shop

mustbe3to20signs , to noncredibledefense in NATO biolabs strike again

So I guess we can officially say now that Russia is third army in Ukraine

clearleaf , to noncredibledefense in Indian fireworks are next level noncredible

The first three let you know what you’re buying but the last one is just straight up Adolf Hitler in a package.

Hyperreality , to noncredibledefense in NATO biolabs strike again

Not unlikely to be the Belarussian border near Chernobyl, so I think we should all agree these were radioactive mutant bores.

nuke OP , to noncredibledefense in NATO biolabs strike again
InEnduringGrowStrong ,
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

Easily the best gif of the day

Decoy321 ,

I’m going back to bed. Nothing is gonna beat this for today. Nicely done, Op.

Mr_Reach , to noncredibledefense in NATO biolabs strike again
@Mr_Reach@lemmy.world avatar

Forgot the moon in the line up.

BombOmOm , to noncredibledefense in ‼️NAFO Mig-29‼️
@BombOmOm@lemmy.world avatar

O, my very excited about the followup to this!

nuke OP , to noncredibledefense in ‼️NAFO Mig-29‼️

What are we doing with our newly acquired firepower?

gravitas_deficiency ,

Up for a round of turret toss? It is packing a GSh-30-1, so it’s basically a fast A-10.

FlyingSquid , to risa in My wife, she has a thing for transporter anomalies
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FlyingSquid , to risa in My wife, she has a thing for transporter anomalies
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

They retconned her as not Columbo’s wife and changed the name of the series to Kate Columbo for season 2, because even they realized that Columbo’s wife wouldn’t be a hot novelist.

ummthatguy , to risa in My wife, she has a thing for transporter anomalies
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Didn’t peg Columbo as the “cradle robber” type. Maybe he just prefers a submissive relationship where he’s constantly under threat of being Tuvixed. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

GreenMario OP ,

Maybe Columbo is much younger but lived a harsh life.

Paulos_the_fog , to noncredibledefense in Indian fireworks are next level noncredible

Yeah, I was in New Delhi for Diwali in 1988 - it was like WWIII had broken out!

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