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qjkxbmwvz , to linux in DemoLinux 1.1 for Mandrake 6.1, 1999

Multiple desktops, 1999. What an amazing feature.

A quick web search suggests that macOS (then OS X) got this in 2007 (“Spaces”), and Windows not until 2015.

This alone makes this GUI more functional IMHO.

XTL ,

Most Unix systems had it in CDE, 1993. Most also had it in whatever came before.

The first platform to implement multiple desktop display as a hardware feature was Amiga 1000, released in 1985.

The first implementation of virtual desktops for Unix was vtwm in 1990.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_desktop

It had been the expected default for pretty much an entire decade. Also X often supported a different size viewport and desktop so the view would scroll. Not sure if anyone really liked using that.

Mr_nutter_butter , to linux in DemoLinux 1.1 for Mandrake 6.1, 1999
@Mr_nutter_butter@lemmy.world avatar

Seeing all these makes me wish for a classic Linux de that just gives you all of that again

SeikoAlpinist , to linux in Yggdrasil Linux working for once (Fall 1995 edition)

I saw this in a magazine and it was so cool looking. A few months later I got Linux on CD and never looked back. That 3D Motif/fvwm look was amazing.

Funny enough, my BIOS did not support booting from CD. I remember in DOS, I had to load MSCDEX from a floppy but I have no recollection on how I actually booted and installed Linux from CD.

LeFantome ,

Looks like FVWM2.

I just learned that OpenBSD still defaults to that look.

mindbleach ,

Possibly from DOS. It’s a real-mode operating system.

Drito , to linux in Yggdrasil Linux working for once (Fall 1995 edition)

Is it possible to make it working on a today machine ? Even with a virtual machine ? Sorry for my ignorance.

LeFantome ,

It should work fine in a virtual machine. Just make sure you provide suitably ancient hardware like IDE storage and old ethernet cards. On something that old, I would only provide a single CPU. To be safe, I would also try installing with a low amount of RAM and then increase it later. Older kernels could not handle multi-processor or RAM above a certain size. I think I might start with 700 MB of RAM to do the install. That might sound like nothing but it probably runs in 8.

It is easy today in our era of resource richness to forget just how meager the hardware was when these distros were new.

A distro that old is going to require some fiddling to get XFree86 ( x11 ) up and running. It should be ok in a desktop VM but I have had problems with older versions of X in Proxmox in case you are using that.

I kind of want to go install this myself now. Or an old version of SLS ( pre-cursor to Slackware ). I ran them both at some point in my Linux journey but it has been a while.

What I really want to do is to make OCI containers from these old distros and try to run them in Distrobox on top of a modern kernel. Has somebody done that already? Really old versions of Red Hat ( not RHEL, Red Hat, < 6 ) would be cool too.

Sinclair-Speccy OP ,
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@LeFantome If you haven't gotten the iso files already, I got them here: https://pd.spuddy.org/yggdrasil.html

@Drito

LeFantome ,

Confirmed. The minimum requirements are a 386 with 8 MB of RAM and 100 MB of drive space. Incredible.

LeFantome ,

I just noticed that, in the screenshot, it is running in 86box. So, you know for sure it works there and 86box works great on modern machines ( Windows, Mac, and Linux ).

86box.net

gramie , to linux in Yggdrasil Linux working for once (Fall 1995 edition)

I bought a book that had Yggdrasil in a CD that I used so I didn’t have to go into the university for the Unix labs.

I think that the entirety of the book, around 1,000 pages, was printed out man pages.

ashley , to linux in Yggdrasil Linux working for once (Fall 1995 edition)

Looks treemendous

jpablo68 , to linux in DemoLinux 1.1 for Mandrake 6.1, 1999

Do you have the isos? I want to try this again

ArcaneSlime , to linux in EvilEntity Linux, 2003

I like seeing these vintage linux screens from before I used it. Keep em coming!

Sinclair-Speccy OP ,
@Sinclair-Speccy@fedia.io avatar

@ArcaneSlime :0 Someone who actually wants more

blindbunny , to linux in EvilEntity Linux, 2003

My second Linux distro! Thanks for sharing

Quik , to piracy in Right up until the firewall blocks it at least

Data is already plural, so the form datas does not exist. It even has the rarely used singular datum as it is just Latin for “given”, but using data instead is generally also regarded correct.

DaGeek247 OP ,
@DaGeek247@fedia.io avatar

Datas is more fun to read.

SternburgExport ,

🗿🗿🗿

xilliah ,

But the keyboard has no Ban key

electricprism ,

Boten Anna’s does

Sorse ,
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Dat ass

Quik ,

I agree, although some very unsympathetic part of me internally screams every time I read that.

ISOmorph ,

OP is obviously Dr. Noonien Soong

pbjamm ,
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Technically correct, which is the best kind.

Umbrias ,

Datas is correct if you are referring to multiple distinct populations of data. Which in this case works.

krimson , to linux in Storm Linux 2000, 1999
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Enlightenment was such a cool window manager. Shame the development pace was (and still is) slow and it never really took off.

pimeys ,

I think even Samsung was funding it for a while. They took a long time building libraries supporting rendering on X11 what I remember. I used the 0.16.x version with my 1GHz Athlon years ago, it was very cool.

SquigglyEmpire ,

I believe they actually adopted it for their Tizen OS, unless I completely invented that memory.

agressivelyPassive ,

Is there even someone left?

I only tried it around 2008 or so and it was extremely slow paced back then while looking like the interface from a sci-fi movie.

krimson ,
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There are still some people doing commits but I think the original devs have moved on.

leopold ,

it’s definitely progressed a lot since 2008, but the last couple of years have been extremely slow

muhyb ,

You don’t update the perfection

leopold ,

having support for the newer wayland protocols in the wayland session wouldn’t hurt

Dariusmiles2123 , to linux in Storm Linux 2000, 1999

I love seeing these screenshots of old Linux distributions as it makes me realize how much things have improved.

I’m just a consumer but I really appreciate the work everyone has done and I ain’t going back to Windows anymore.

xaera , to linux in Storm Linux 2000, 1999

That was probably close to one of the last versions of enlightenment I used regularly. It was such a fun WM to use at the time. If I remember correctly, GNOME and KDE were really ramping up about then and e fell behind.

porl ,

TRANSPARENT TERMINALS! Haha it felt so futuristic and to this day I can’t run a terminal without a little transparency. Enlightenment was my first experience of it.

itslilith ,
@itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I mostly use it because it looks nice, but I’ve found that with limited screen space, they’re actually really useful! I can have the man pages or a stack exchange open in the background, and don’t need to constantly switch back and forth

boredsquirrel , to linux in Storm Linux 2000, 1999
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I have to say these desktops look to damn confusing

const_void ,

What are you confused by?

boredsquirrel ,
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There are way too many bars that look like dockable windows, the stuff at the bottom. Lots of stuff looking like decorations (but in general these buttons are confusing af even macOS is better than that.

And at the top it looks like the whole desktop is a window with decoration??

In general low contrast, too many strange thin things, no clear icons.

gnuhaut , (edited )

This is a screenshot of window running a VM, so yes it is a window running a whole desktop. The top window decoration, menu bar, and the very bottom panel are not part of the old desktop, but rather from the modern host system.

I agree though, it is confusing. Main problem (and I remember this) is that this is Gnome with Enlightenment as a wm, and Enlightenment had aspirations to be more than a wm. So there’s some duplication of effort there, and no integration/communication between the two projects (Gnome in the next version used sawfish/sawmill as wm, which was more coordinated with Gnome).

Enlightenment has/had its own toolkit, which you can see here in the DOX window, which is different from Gtk. Enlightenment also has a bunch of widgets, like the top bar and the stuff in the bottom corners, which are non-Gnome and clash with and are on top of the Gnome panel. The desktop icons are also zero pixels under the Enlightenment top bar, which suggest the people responsible weren’t coordinating at all.

boredsquirrel ,
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Of course I am not talking about Windows ;)

boredsquirrel ,
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Interesting! This explains a lot, thanks!

Happy to be a Linux user in 2024!

Tabooki , to linux in Storm Linux 2000, 1999

I ran enlightenment for a long time. It was great.

jherazob ,
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If there was an updated version these days i'd be fully inclined to run it, haven't followed the project in more than a decade though

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