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armchair_progamer , (edited ) to programmer_humor in A real chicken-and-egg situation

C++’s mascot is an obese sick rat with a missing foot*, because it has 1000+ line compiler errors (the stress makes you overeat and damages your immune system) and footguns.

EDIT: Source (I didn’t make up the C++ part)

https://i.imgur.com/RkD4juc.png

https://media3.locals.com/images/posts/2024-01-10/102127/102127_99yfyumtxc53rd4_custom.jpeg

Ephera , to programmer_humor in A real chicken-and-egg situation

Uhm, excuse me, that is clearly a walrus.

maniel , to programmer_humor in A real chicken-and-egg situation

i guess “beaver” would’ve been kinda awkward with today’s connotations with shaving the beaver etc.

tsonfeir ,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

We shave Go?

maniel ,

You can shave what you want, it’s your life

SqueakyBeaver ,

wait why am I being shaved? /j

TIN , to android in OnePlus 12R update just now received.

I think my 7T is no longer in update territory. Probably time for a change!

statue7559 ,

Get LineageOS, it’s great and you’ll still get updates for years to come!

Peter1986C ,
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LineageOS depends on volunteers with knowledge, time, and access to the hardware in question. So sometimes they abandon certain phones (or never support at all).

tb_ ,
@tb_@lemmy.world avatar

Even so it might get you a few more years out of your phone

angrynomad ,

Nord n10 piece of shit… Never again getting a oneplus

knobbysideup ,
@knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works avatar

Crdroid works well on my op7 pro. Android 14.

cupcakezealot , to programmerhumor in Today I went to the museum
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

if you flip it over it spells 80085

lefaucet , to programmerhumor in Today I went to the museum

Everyone’s heard of the “Hello world” being people’s first program, but just as popular among teenaged boys is their second, more advanced program: Boobs! :)

PriorityMotif , to programmerhumor in Today I went to the museum
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I can’t believe it’s already been 23 years. What a long way we’ve come.

Hegar , to programmerhumor in Today I went to the museum
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That code is to computer porn as the Hunt the Wumpus is to computer games.

sheepishly , to programmerhumor in Today I went to the museum
@sheepishly@kbin.social avatar

run

Got_Bent , to programmerhumor in Today I went to the museum

I had to go look up when those things came out (1977) because by the time I got my hands on one in 1982 in the school library they were already little more than toys even when compared to the luxurious Vic 20.

I know we played some games off cassettes on them. I feel like Oregon trail was one of those games, but I’m suspicious of my own memory because I know I was playing that on my Apple 2, which I think had joystick driven hunting on it.

God I’m getting old and can’t remember the finer points anymore.

I do remember that other kids bullied the HELL out of me for carrying one of those plastic boxes full of floppies with me at school. Not a good time to be a nerd back then.

azimir ,

It’s wonderful how included and valued nerdiness is these days. Being interested in anything non mainstream in the conformist 80’s was hell outside of a tight friend group.

Got_Bent ,

By tenth grade I had been commissioned to write some software. When I completed it, I walked away from all of it because of the social stigma. Didn’t touch a computer again for ten years. I won’t say I regret that because walking away led me to other life adventures, but I will say I regret the circumstances that drove me to do it.

Zachariah , to programmerhumor in Today I went to the museum
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Is that a time machine museum because I ran that exact code more decades ago than I care to think about?

MajorHavoc , to programmerhumor in Today I went to the museum

READY.

Mozingo , to programmerhumor in Today I went to the museum
@Mozingo@lemmy.world avatar

Such a fun museum, so many cool pieces of hardware I’d never have the chance to see in person.

sirico OP ,
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Mad you got it off the screen shot

palordrolap , to programmerhumor in Today I went to the museum

Wow. I totally forgot that Commodore BASIC ignores spaces in variable names. I do remember that it ignores anything after the first two letters though. That said, there's a bit more going on here than meets the eye.

PRINT HELLO WORLD is actually parsed as PRINT HELLOW OR LD, that is: grab the values of the variables HELLOW (which is actually just HE) and LD, bitwise OR them together and then print.

Since it's very likely both HE and LD were undefined, they were quietly created then initialised to 0 before their bitwise-OR was calculated for the 0 that appeared.

Back in the day, people generally didn't put many spaces in their Commodore BASIC programs because those spaces each took up a byte of valuable memory. That PET2001, if unexpanded, only has 8KB in it.

</old man rant>

Telorand ,

Neat. Sounds very confusing for future maintenance, but when you only have 512KB of storage, you do what you gotta do!

palordrolap ,

512KB? At the risk of going all Four Yorkshiremen, that sounds luxurious.

Floppy disks held 170KB if you were lucky to have a drive. The PET line, like many 8-bit computers, used a cassette tape drive (yes, those things that preceded CDs for holding and playing music). Capacity depended on the length of the tape. And it took ages to load.

The PET was fancy because it had a built-in cassette drive. That's what you can see to the left of the keyboard in the picture.

Telorand ,

The main machines at work still do upgrades via tapes. The main program can communicate with lots of online services, but it still updates via tape. Probably too hard to spend the time to figure out how to implement OTA upgrades, since it was first created back in the 80s.

But the 512KB was more of a vague gesture towards the limitations back then. We had a separate floppy drive, with which I would load up a big black rectangle that had 1-5 very basic games on it. There’s something special about locking down the disk which you can’t get even with its smaller successor…

palordrolap ,

Comparing audio cassettes to modern high-density tape storage is pretty much the same comparison as an 8-bit computer with a modern 64-bit server, or, say, a hamster with a human.

Basically the same thing, but the differences are somewhat notable.

mihor ,
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Yes, the tape really took ages to load and then you’d just get that damned SYNTAX ERROR just to have to reload everything. 😂

gregorum , to programmerhumor in Today I went to the museum

some people just want to see the world

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