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worfamerryman , to gaming in Why Baldur’s Gate III is an accidental PS5 console exclusive

I’ve played this game a bit and I really don’t understand why it can’t be scaled down visually to work. It’s not some game that needs to target high fps or something.

jordanlund , (edited )

The problem isn’t scale, the problem is rendering the game twice for split screen with only 10GB of RAM.

To put this in perspective, the Xbox ONE X has more ram than the Series S. 12 vs. 10.

If you want to solve that problem purely by scaling the graphics, yeah, I bet they could do it in 640x480…

worfamerryman ,

I guess what I’m really wondering is, is this game unoptimzed causing it to need higher specs?

jordanlund ,

It’s not that it’s unoptimized, it’s that running split screen requires 2x resources, resources the Series S does not have.

vrighter ,

if you have X amount of work to do, you can’t just “add optimization” and somehow you’ll have less work to do.

if a game needs all the resources, then a well optimized game would still require all resources. but the unoptimized one would just not run properly.

optimized means “it uses the hardware efficiently”. bg3 is a very well optimized game. it uses the hardware efficiently, and it uses all of the hardware. at a particular point, the only optimization left to do, is to do less work, i.e. to cut content.

optimization isn’t some magic sauce you add to computer code to make it run faster. optimization is about writing good, performant code. at some point it’s going to get as good as it can get.

the reason it needs higher specs than previous games is that it is doing a lot more than previous games. there is more work to do. what you’re saying is akin to “this tiny car can do 100mph. why doesn’t mine also do 100 mph when i stuff it full of bricks and give it a smaller engine?” well, it’s because it has a lot more weight to carry, and less engine to do it with

LittlePrimate ,
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The GPU of the series S is simply a lot worse, socutting quality by a bit won’t cut it. I also suspect that since they always quote the split screen as problem, it might be about the number of textures to be loaded in when the game is kind of running twice, not the quality.

jordanlund ,

RAM is the big bottle neck here.

Here’s the comparison:

PS5: 16 GB/256-bit GDDR6 SDRAM
512 MB DDR4 RAM

Series X: 10 GB/320-bit & 6 GB/192-bit (16 GB total)

Series S: 8 GB/128-bit & 2 GB/32-bit (10 GB total)

But more than that, it’s the speeds involved:

PS5 Peak Bandwidth 448 GB/s
Xbox Series X 10 GB 560 GB/s and 6 GB 336 GB/s
Xbox Series S 8 GB 224 GB/s and 2 GB with 56 GB/s

So not just less RAM, but at 1/2 the speed.

Feyter ,

Why would you load a texture twice in memory? Especially if it’s for the exact same object? It only needs to be rendered twice the texture stays the same and therefore only need to be stored once in ram…

MagicShel ,

He didn’t say load a texture twice, he said twice the textures - which is a worst case scenario, but you could get if the players aren’t near to each other.

stopthatgirl7 OP , (edited )
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I really wish people would read articles before commenting. I went looking for an article like this specifically that talks about the issues involved and folks can’t even be bothered to read beyond the headline. 😞

worfamerryman ,

I guess I’m having trouble wrapping my head around why this game needs such high specs.

Jimbob0i0 ,

Because you’re focused on the visuals from a single user perspective…

  1. There’s the world state and game logic to consider as well, and this would be relevant even in a 2D sprite based game.
  2. The article makes it clear that it’s the couch co-op split screen that is causing the most headaches, with whatever additional overhead there is in maintaining another active character and rendering of the world on screen.
vrighter ,

because split screen requires rendering stuff twice. and also needing to keep more stuff in memory simultaneously, depending on what two players might have in their field of view, instead of just one.

also, reducing the (subjective) quality by half, does not necessarily mean that you are now using half the resources. And also your game would look like shit compared to its contemporaries

battleshack , to technology in Marvel's visual effects workers vote to unionize

I once had a dream of becoming a Hollywood VFX artist. What a bullshit dream that was.

A2PKXG , to technology in Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it | Engadget
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I’m under the impression that my use will only make it slower for people who really need it.

Contend6248 ,

It will take some performance, but it’s also creating noise which is a good thing.

BeliefPropagator ,

There’s still plenty of bandwidth to go around: metrics.torproject.org/bandwidth.html

StoicLime , to technology in Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it | Engadget

I would use it if it wasn’t so slow. I get that it’s slow because of the security, but that’s precisely the reason it can never be my primary browser.

ComradeR , to technology in Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it | Engadget

Sorry if my question is stupid, but can I use it as a “regular” browser (like Chrome, Mozilla, Opera, etc) on my Android smartphone?

intothesky ,

Yes, but you lose all data after exit

ComradeR ,

Thank you for the answer! :)

itchy_lizard ,

Yes, that’s the point.

Nr97JcmjjiXZud ,
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You can, but you really shouldn’t.

ComradeR ,

Why?

Xylight ,
@Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev avatar

It’s meant for you to be completely anonymous. Logging in to stuff would defeat the whole purpose of TOR, as it would associate your activity with the account you logged into. When browsing sites without really needing to interact, it’s good, as the sites cannot track you easily.

itchy_lizard ,

There are many use-cases for Tor. One is anonymity. One is to bypass censorship. The most popular website on the darknet is Facebook.

It doesn’t “defeat the purpose” of using Tor in Tibet to access a Facebook page.

Lexam , to technology in Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it | Engadget

But that’s part of its appeal. How else do I know I’m one of the cool kids?

Chadus_Maximus ,

People treat this as a suggestion. It’s actually a warning. A warning of what will happen if we overuse TOR.

Lexam , to technology in X tells advertisers to spend $1,000 per month or risk losing verification status

Need some sarcastic quotes around “X”.

mecha_pope ,

Yeah, gotta figure something out. Can’t really do the sarcastic UpPeR cAsE lOWeR cAsE thing with a single letter.

b3nsn0w , to technology in Netflix axes its $10 ‘Basic’ plan in the US and UK
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palitu , to technology in Tesla directors agree to return $735 million following claims they were massively overpaid

Yeah, musk smells fishy…

UlfKirsten , to technology in Meta faces a $100,000 daily fine if it doesn't fix privacy issues in Norway | 'It is so clear that this is illegal that we need to intervene now and immediately.'

Is that even enough?

zergling_man , (edited ) to technology in Bluesky allowed people to include the n-word in their usernames | Engadget

decentrali[s]ed

remove the account

Surprising approximately nobody, it’s trash.

Flatworm7591 ,

You should see some of the usernames I’ve seen reported from the sh.itjust.works instance. I’m not going to post any but it seems like there is no moderation of usernames at all as far as I can tell. Major oversight on their part.

zergling_man ,

They sound fun. I guess I’ll put an alt there.

nothacking , (edited ) to technology in Canadian judge rules the thumbs up emoji counts as a contract agreement

TLDR: Farmer agrees to sell some flax in the future at a fixed price, by responding “👍” to “please confirm flax contract”. Later, as the market price of flax went up, the farmer demands more money. They buyer then goes to court to force the farmer to sell the flax at the agreed price, judge rules that the “👍” does count as agreement.

This is a contract that was made several times previously, with similar informal agreements like “ok”, but this time the farmer tried to get out.

Centillionaire , to workreform in Sega of America workers overwhelmingly vote to unionize

Wow! This is HUGE!

shiveyarbles , to news in Canadian judge rules the thumbs up emoji counts as a contract agreement

What about a middle finger, is that a no?

CaptainBasculin , to technology in Epic says that Apple has accepted its third-party app store

If Epic supports the whole Unreal Engine pricing rate in iOS thats a really big thing.

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