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PanArab , to news in X now treats the term cisgender as a slur

He really hates his trans daughter!

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

She hates him more. When she changed her name, she changed her surname to her mother’s and had it put into the court record that she disowns her father. She could have just broken contact, waited for him to die and hoped she was included in the will, but he was such an awful father that she said, “fuck you and your billions of dollars.” Can you imagine how exceptionally bad a parent that would make him?

Underwaterbob ,

Not to play down how absolutely terrible I’m sure Musk is as a father, but her mum’s also loaded. That would certainly make the decision easier.

nickwitha_k ,

But is she “barring significant changes in world financial systems, my descendants could purchase a small nation-state every generation and still likely never have to sell their labor or until the end of their genetic line” wealthy? Gotta remember that Billion with a B is an absurdly large number that is literally beyond human comprehension in anything but an abstract sense by a large margin.

Underwaterbob ,

I got more curious, so I did some searching, and I just can’t. Turns out Musk has some absurd number of children with several different women. And I only found that out through some pop culture/celebrity worship/exploitation websites I’d rather not have in my search history. I couldn’t even find the name or age of the child in question (probably for the best, I wouldn’t want my children to go through this, either), though it seems of the three children he had with Grimes, the oldest just turned 4. That’s a bit young to even know what disowning is.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Sure, her mom is loaded. But even ignoring the money, she wanted it known in a legal setting and on an official court transcript that she did not consider Elon Musk to be her father. That’s quite the statement.

exanime , to news in X now treats the term cisgender as a slur

Tired of hearing about Xhitter… Stop posting every excruciating minutiae about it and let it die already

mightyfoolish ,

I agree with you but we both know it’s not going to stop. We need a mostodon instance to get world famous.

HexesofVexes , to news in X now treats the term cisgender as a slur

Why would he hate the word “onthesameside-gender”?

casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer , to news in X now treats the term cisgender as a slur

Y’all wanna do a poll for context? Hope that’s allowed, since pretty sure updoots means nothing on Lemmy. Apologies if not, anyway here I go:

Is trans a slur? Updoot the corresponding comment to cast your vote, or downdoot to be a troll I guess idk

casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer ,

Yes

casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer ,

No

casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer ,

Maybe?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I think it’s funny that you want to do a poll for context but your question itself is context-dependent. Any quality of any human, inherent or adopted, can be a slur in the proper context.

Is ‘trans’ a slur when it’s Elliot Page talking about himself? No.

Is ‘trans’ a slur when a bigot calls someone ‘trans’ to insult them because they think being trans is worthy of contempt? Yes.

crapwittyname ,

This is beautiful. Shutting down the discourse completely by virtue of being inarguably correct. I applaud this comment.

sinedpick ,

oh no the amazingly useful discussion has been shut down by … examining its premises! Truly a disgrace to online discourse.

casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer ,

You illustrated the point better than I had the energy to do-- I simply don’t care enough to be that eloquent because the majority of what I get is nonsense in return. So instead of wasting my time, I chose to take the lazy route and encourage people to come to a consensus on this one key point so that the point you made would become irrefutable.

Neither trans nor cis are slurs by default, but anything can be a slur if used in a derogatory manner-- I think some comedian had a bit about this, but I can’t recall who and I’m sure even if I did there’s a good chance someone would give me a nasty label for saying such comedian made a good point…

But the same people that say trans can be a slur, cannot deny in good faith that cis cannot be a slur. They are both simple classifiers with no basis on prejudice. But some people will still argue they are slurs simply because they are used prominently in derogatory contexts.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

That’s not the issue. The issue is that Twitter acts like it is automatically considered a slur, rather than something that is only a slur in certain contexts.

There’s also the matter of Twitter doing very little about the Nazis on its platform other than giving them a boost.

PiratePanPan , to news in X now treats the term cisgender as a slur
@PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I’ve heard that straggot isn’t, so take that information as you will /s

corsicanguppy , to news in X now treats the term cisgender as a slur

I’ve been CALLED it as a slur. \shrug

androogee ,

Please tell us more about your victimhood.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been called ‘white’ and ‘Jew’ as a slur. I’m still white and a Jew.

Anything can be a slur in the right context.

jj4211 ,

You fucking squid.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

See? Rude.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

“squid” has been banned from X

LaserTurboShark69 ,

You poor thing

llamajester421 , to news in X now treats the term cisgender as a slur

This is what happens when a Nazi affiliated "free-speech" absolutist buys a major media. The trap of the tolerating the intolerant is very real.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Except X is only tolerating the intolerant, and not tolerating the tolerant.

KillingTimeItself , to news in X now treats the term cisgender as a slur

cool, surely they now treat the term trans as a slur too right?

Right?

Right??

Luisp , to news in X now treats the term cisgender as a slur

So it’s a gay-only platform now?

CluckN ,

It always has been?

Luisp ,

No women allowed club, only bros

T00l_shed ,

Hmmm sounds a little… gay…

lolcatnip ,

Huh? How do you figure?

Honytawk ,

Because cis people are banned

lolcatnip ,

Um…what do you think cis means?

casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer ,

Gay until proven otherwise

HawlSera , to news in X now treats the term cisgender as a slur

Typical Cishet behavior

RampantParanoia2365 , to news in X now treats the term cisgender as a slur

Everyone should start talking about CSI incessantly.

tobogganablaze ,

Las Vegas or Miami?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

CSI Gender. It’s a spinoff taking place in the town of Gender, New Mexico.

RampantParanoia2365 ,

Lol, perfect.

cupcakezealot , to news in X now treats the term cisgender as a slur
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

the best part about this is that elon basically is doing the john mulaney sketch where he says cis all the time to justify it but when asked why the n word is allowed, he refers to it without saying it.

IzzyScissor ,

“If you’re comparing two words and won’t say one of the words… That’s the worse word!”

Aurenkin , to news in X now treats the term cisgender as a slur

Ok so what is their preferred term?

Viking_Hippie ,

“Real man/woman” or something inherently derogatory towards everyone else like that.

These bigots consider their own gender (and usually race and political affiliation, for that matter) the default and everything else a misguided if not dangerous aberration.

They’re like the the people Musk grew up with in apartheid South Africa in that respect.

Aurenkin ,

Yeah I suspect as much too. Nothing more than a passive and abhorrent form of violence imo.

Alto ,
@Alto@kbin.social avatar

Guys Im starting to think the guy who's only rich because daddy used apartheid slave labor may not have the best views on race

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Probably “normal”. Just like being white or straight.

card797 , to news in X now treats the term cisgender as a slur

That’s antisemitic, too.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I’m pretty sure Elon has no problem with antisemitism since he thinks it’s the “actual truth” that Jews (who are, apparently, not white) are oppressing white people.

LaserTurboShark69 , to news in X now treats the term cisgender as a slur

I actually kinda wish I could see the idiotic replies that the mods are removing

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