I almost did myself, but then I looked up the term,and I realized that Linux is exactly that. For me, it’s because I thought I knew what the term meant. I thought that it advocated for state owned software, because communism is all about state controlled property.
And the FOSS system seems to be collapsing right now for the same reason that anarcho-communism only works short-term until someone sees commercial value in it and abuses the system to the limit.
Big corporations initially providing exceptional services based on FOSS and after a while use their market share to excert undue control about the system (see e.g. RedHat, Ubuntu, Chrome, Android, …)
Big corporations taking FLOSS, rebranding it and hiding it below their frontend, so that nobody can interact with or directly use the FLOSS part (e.g. iOS, any car manufacturer, …)
Big and small companies just using GPL (or similar) software and not sharing their modifications when asked (e.g. basically any embedded systems, many Android manufacturers, RedHat, …)
Big corporations using infrastructure FOSS without giving anything back (e.g. OpenSSL, which before Heartbleed was developed and maintained by a single guy with barely enough funding to stay alive, while it was used by millions of projects with a combined user base of billions of users)
The old embrace-extend-extinguish playbook is everywhere.
And so it’s no surprise that many well-known FOSS developers are advocating for some kind of post-FOSS system that forces commercial users to pay for their usage of the software.
Considering how borderline impossible it is for some software developer to successfully sue a company to comply with GPL, I can’t really see such a post-FOSS system work well.
If it were a fruit, it would fall under a different section of tariffs. The tariff has rules for rectangles but has an exemption/special case for squares.
There’s no botanical meaning of vegetable. That’s a cooking term. In botany, you have different parts of the plant, like fruit, stem or root, you have different groups of plants, like the ginger family or monocots. And you can say a plant is edible or useful.
Exactly. I don’t why it’s always surprising to people that court battles are fought over legal definitions. That’s how legal definitions are made.
Vegetables are not anything that is not a fruit. Tomatos are both, as are cucumbers. When you say “technically a fruit is blah blah blah”, it says nothing about whether something is vegetable. The definition is from a different domain. The definition of vegetable seems to have to due with human digestion. The botanical definition of fruit doesn’t care about the existence of humans. Vegetables are culinary and to some extent cultural. “Fruit” also has a culinary meaning, but its not technical in that domain. There is no way to “technically” distinguish between fruit and vegetables as “vegetable” isn’t technically botanically defined.
I’m allowed to call a cult leader “God” and I’m allowed to call the idiots at the apple store “geniuses” but I’m not going to devalue those words either.
Uh, yeah, having had several accidents resulting in vertebral subluxation or a rotated SI joint that was only corrected and relieved by chiropractors, whoever came up with that conclusion can fuck all the way off.
Thank you for sharing your story! While it’s a great example of anecdotal evidence, the “whoever” that came up with these conclusions are called “scientists” who perform research based on scientific evidence. It’s great that you feel better for having seen a chiropractor, but many do not.
That’s also anecdotal stories, and it’s not my imagination that after attempting numerous other methods, that chiropractors were the only ones who did anything except say to walk it off or offer painkillers. You can fuck off along with those scientists.
By the same logic, all the “real” medical practitioners whose efforts and advice had zero positive effect on those situations are also quacks, or whatever. Fortunately for them, I have more realistic experience and understanding than that.
The only funny part about this to me is that the only advice any “real” medical practitioner gave me that helped any of these situations was to refer me to a chiropractor, after prescribing painkillers to help tolerate it until I could see one.
You must be partially illiterate since I’ve already said I went to doctors, and that I was recommended to see a chiropractor by at least one them, and that I experienced relief and long term correction for multiple accidents. Not just relief, but instant relief, from realigning the vertebrae from a position that created nerve entrapments. The mechanics of chiropractic and how they work is not difficult to understand. If any of these scientists were messed up badly enough to need one, they would also draw different conclusions.
edit: and yes, I do trust my own observations about the presence of pain and its elimination from my own body. I don’t need scientists or doctors to tell me that it didn’t actually happen. I was there.
As far as I’m concerned, you’re the ignorant one here. If you ever need chiropractic and decide not to get it because a group of people told you it’s worthless, I’m fine with it. I don’t have to live with any pain you may suffer from in the future or your decisions how to manage it.
And I’m not sure what you’re wishing me luck on, because due to my decision making, I’m pain free with full mobility, with exception for ringing in the ears, for which there is no cure at the moment, but I do use scientifically based hearing aids that play scientifically based disruption tones that work about 60% of the time, prescribed by my doctors and paid by my medical insurance. And I don’t avoid hospitals or other nonsense you’re projecting. Everything you’ve said is disposable.
Vertebral subluxation isn’t a thing. Chiropractors made it up. You might have had a dislocation, but subluxation is oogy boogy words.
Chiropractors DO have some evidence that they can provide short term, immediate pain relief for back pain. However, physical therapy and exercise after an adjustment is necessary or you have to see a Chiro forever.
Also a PT or DO can do the same kinds of manipulations with an actual medical degree.
edit: and if PTs and DOs are doing the same adjustments, then the adjustments are a legitimate therapy when done correctly, regardless of who is doing them, unless you’re saying PTs and DOs are also illegitimate. Your argument is nonsense.
That is ridiculous characterization of people who go through formal education to learn their craft. You are a fucking idiot.
Apparently 4-7 years of education and clinical practice at an average of $120,000 or more is equivalent to watching a few youtube videos. Only a dumbass would think something like that.
Not to mention that chiropractors are licensed by state medical boards. Get the fuck outta here with that nonsense.
And you’re still completely wrong about subluxation being a made up word. That post from Cleveland Clinic explains the difference to you, and the NIH link goes into thorough descriptions of it.
Hmmm, which should I rely on, Cleveland Clinic and NIH, or some idiot who couldn’t be bothered to look up the big words before saying they aren’t real? Gee, let me think.
But then again, you’re probably not competent enough to read the NIH discussion and understand it.
I also love how the goalposts have been moved from “chiropractic techniques are ineffective and have no value” to “well actually those same techniques are effective and legitimate when done by certain people.” That is hilarious!
What’s sad is that after 25+ years of having these arguments, you knuckleheads haven’t come up with anything original.
I have a photo with him when he showed up at a Defcon afterparty a couple of years back. Dude definitely was on something, but he was all smiles and happy to take pictures with everyone.
This gives me similar vibes to the film “Go”. Came out around the same time and had that girl from Dawson’s Creek in it. Well worth a watch. They don’t make film like them any more.
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