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z00s , to til in TIL that the longest javelin throw was 99.52 meters using a now illegal technique that was considered "out of control". No one has broken this record with modern javelin rules.

According to Wiki, the modern javelin event has an “unlimited runup”. I, for one, would like to test that wording of the rules

originalucifer , to til in TIL that the longest javelin throw was 99.52 meters using a now illegal technique that was considered "out of control". No one has broken this record with modern javelin rules.
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the technique:

using the technique holding the end of the javelin. Officials were so afraid of the out of control nature of the technique that the practice was banned through these rule specifications.

SquirrelX ,

I’ve spent some time reading the Wikipedia article looking for the relevant part, I guess I was 10 mins early (didn’t get the chance to see your comment before that). Here’s the (probably) corresponding video, the first video result when searching for the freestyle javelin technique, in case it helps anyone: youtu.be/52rvqtiBoow?si=RiLjhJG2ttv-0s1W

originalucifer ,
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i was just curious about how many techniques could there be?! apparently lots!

sharp things really bother me, so watching that video was kinda painful

BackOnMyBS ,
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found another one that includes some history 🙂

youtu.be/UEc29dH1Tj4?si=VPm5JcP0LVTWzPWg

ThrowawayPermanente ,

Interesante, gracias

someguy3 ,

The back end or the front end?

originalucifer ,
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back.

it apparently requires some finesse like throwing an american football.. there is a spiral technique employed for accuracy.

imagine throwing a football by pushing its long end.

Blue_Morpho ,

Look at the videos posted above. They don’t hold it on the end like the OP claims. They hold it on the grip but spin and release like throwing a discus.

originalucifer ,
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the correct technique is what i mention above, holding it in the middle and spiraling it. like a football.

i mention throwing the football by its end as an example of why you lose all control of the stick using that technique, and hence, why its illegal.

expatriado , to til in TIL that the longest javelin throw was 99.52 meters using a now illegal technique that was considered "out of control". No one has broken this record with modern javelin rules.

iirc, they also moved the center of gravity so it couldn’t fly as far

ShinkanTrain ,

People are too fast these days, I vote for Olympic runners having to wear weights

yetAnotherUser ,

How about:

https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/9b817c10-3892-4d8a-bfca-0fbcda9b2cb0.jpeg

If they manage to become too fast again, we can maybe hold the event in a pool filled with 1m of water.

DannyBoy ,

I’d love to see water sprints of various depths.

cornshark ,

Excellent, I hear France already has one

considine ,

Ooh, pool depth diss!

Plopp ,

Instead of a parachute at the end of the line, hook them up to generators and let them power the lights in the cafeteria.

frezik ,

Javelin needs to be safe and stick within a reasonable field size to be an Olympic event. If runners were so fast they were tearing up the track and tossing debris into the audience, we would slow them down.

JASN_DE , (edited ) to til in TIL that the longest javelin throw was 99.52 meters using a now illegal technique that was considered "out of control". No one has broken this record with modern javelin rules.

To be fair: an athlete holding the spear by the end and hurling it… somewhere by accelerating it through rotating the body like a hammer thrower does sound slightly dangerous.

Also, the farthest throw was actually 104.8 meters.

AbouBenAdhem ,

But… weren’t javelins originally designed to be dangerous?

JASN_DE ,

True, but even the earliest commanders usually frowned on spears coming their way which were meant for the enemy.

jonne ,

You were also supposed to be able to hit your target.

AbouBenAdhem ,

Yeah… but it might have been a good tactic for the really shitty javelin-throwers, so they could make up in range what they lacked in accuracy.

RamblingPanda ,

I’m not picky, any target is fine. Boar, pheasant, peasant, doesn’t matter.

StaticFalconar ,

Much like guns, so the Olympic sports of shooting has very little with most guns the average gun owner would have.

Plopp ,

This is true. That’s why you rarely see hunters use the hammer throw spinning technique used in Olympic shooting.

roofuskit , to til in TIL that Eminem was offered the lead role in the film "Elysium" but reportedly turned it down, leading director to instead cast Matt Damon.

Bullet dodged. Neil Blokamp has made one good feature length film to date. And it seems it was almost by accident.

StrangeName ,

Gran Turismo was pretty ok as well. (Assuming you meant District 9)

Sir_Kevin ,
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My gf and I both fell asleep in the middle and never bothered finishing it.

acockworkorange ,

I liked Elysium. Not up there with District 9 but good.

taiyang , to til in TIL the Japanese words 青 (ao) and 青い (aoi) can refer to either blue or green depending on the situation.

Yeah, but not really. They have a word for green, midori, which is much more common. I think the aoi thing is more historical, but since Japan has has Western education for close to a decade (and yes, even before WW2 they sent people to US to copy methods), there’s no generation that grew up without green being green.

Anytime it’s used now it’s just a hold over from those older times, and to be fair English has it’s fair share of antiquated words and phrases.

jol ,

You see that in English in names of food like red cabbage and red onions.

watersnipje ,

Indeed, and red cats and red hair are orange.

ikidd , to linux in What file systems are you using on your devices and why?
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ZFS on anything storage related. Enterprise level snapshot and replica management.

Psyhackological OP ,
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How’s it better than XFS? I heard same things about it too.

ScottE ,

XFS does not do snapshots, replicas, and all the other myriad of things that ZFS does.

ikidd ,
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ZFS is completely different than XFS. XFS is like a better (different?) ext4. ZFS is an error-checking software raid COW filesystem that does snapshots and can have multiple replicas, both local and remote. It uses zvols and datastores. Think btrfs on steroids and with a working raid subsystem.

It’s got a weird semi-closed license because Oracle is involved but it’s never been enforced and at this point is in such widespread use in large and small enterprises that it would be impossible to enforce.

theroff ,

OpenZFS is under a completely FOSS license but it’s incompatible with the GPL and can’t really ever be merged into the Linux kernel. The workaroundids to provide it as source code which gets compiled as a module every time there’s a new kernel via dkms.

More controversially, Canonical ship OpenZFS pre-compiled in Ubuntu which some lawyers believe to be infringing on ZFS’ codebase.

Honestly the OpenZFS situation on Linux is probably the biggest single reason for the growing interest in btrfs and bcachefs, the former slowly becoming default on more Linux distros over time and lots of investment from SUSE and Facebook AFAIK.

delirious_owl , to linux in What file systems are you using on your devices and why?
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ext4 because its the default and works fine

Psyhackological OP ,
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Never doubted it. Do you use journaling feature on it?

Empricorn ,

Wasn’t that the entire purpose of ext4 vs ext3? As the default, I also keep journaling on for ext4 partitions. Even /boot.

theroff ,

ext3 had journaling, but not ext2. Also ext3 doesn’t really exist anymore as it was merged into the ext4 driver which can read the old format.

billgamesh ,

I like ext4 because it’s easy. If anything breaks, ANY live USB can fix it. I use fat32 for my removeable drives, because anything can read it. I don’t use journalling for anything manually, but I imagine it’s useful when my disk crashes because I let my laptop die

veer66 , to linux in What file systems are you using on your devices and why?
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@Psyhackological I use XFS because I have been told that it is fast.

theroff ,

It is fast. It’s the recommended filesystem for MinIO and default for RHEL 7 and above. XFS and ext4 are often recommended for databases if no other filesystem-level features (like snapshots) are needed. XFS has slightly more features than ext4 like CoW and reflink support.

BackOnMyBS , to til in TIL that Eminem was offered the lead role in the film "Elysium" but reportedly turned it down, leading director to instead cast Matt Damon.
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JTskulk , to til in TIL the Allies fielded thousands of tanks by the end of World War I, a major technological breakthrough. The Germans deployed just 18.

If I remember my history accurately, that’s because tanks were a new British secret weapon. The whole reason they’re even called tanks is because that was the code name, they referred to them as water tanks.

rockerface ,

I think the original actual name was “landships”, but the “tanks” stuck better for some reason

Mikelius ,

Yes, in 1916 which is fucking crazy to think about because the french army literally had napoleonic era style cuirassiers in 1914.

mat , to linux in What file systems are you using on your devices and why?
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Honestly I saw btrfs in the arch install guide and read about it because I thought the name sounded funny. I used it until I distro hopped to NixOS couldn’t figure out how to install it with btrfs, so I’m back on ext4.

Maybe I’ll give it another try next hop, which is likely soon since Qt theming seems impossible on Nix. :/

OneRedFox ,
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mat ,
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Yeah, I did find the page, but it assumes you’re doing a command line install whilst I was using the graphical installer. Now that I know more about Nix I think I should’ve gone for a CLI install, but I don’t know if I will stick with it due to the themeing issues.

OneRedFox ,
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I always forget that they added a graphical installer, but IMO it kinda defeats the point of having a declarative config file setup your system.

What issues are you having with Qt themes?

mat ,
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Agreed! I wonder how it will work if I have to reinstall, I guess I git clone my flake from the install CD and use that instead.

For Qt themes, I had Catppuccin working on Arch but I haven’t found a way to apply it. I tried Stylix (kde.enable = true does nothing for Dolphin or nheko), the official Catppuccin flake (dropped GTK support, sets QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE which breaks nheko). I know it’s possible to theme Qt apps because I’ve had it working before, but I can’t find any info on how to do it with NixOS that works…

OneRedFox ,
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Did qt5ct/qt6ct not work for you? There’s also Kvantum support.

mat ,
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Is there a way to set catppuccin as the qt5ct theme? I tried manually adding the files but using qt5ct breaks all icons in Dolphin (it displays alt text or nothing), and kind-of applies in nheko but leaves the main window background fully white.

OneRedFox ,
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You just download and put the theme files where it tells you to (and in the qt6ct folder too) and set the theme (and icon theme) in the app. Icons breaking is interesting; I just installed Dolphin and it had no problem using my icon theme. Does PCManFM-Qt also have this issue for you?

mat ,
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I tried this and was able to set a colorscheme in qt5/6ct that stuck in nheko (with QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct), but it still has the same icons issue in Dolphin. pcmanfm-qt also has the icons missing.

OneRedFox ,
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Did you manually set the icon theme in qt5ct/qt6ct? I recall having to do that on a fresh install.

thejevans , to linux in What file systems are you using on your devices and why?
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ZFS all the things. On my workstations, I wipe / on every boot except for the files that I specify, and I backup /home to my NAS on ZFS and I backup my NAS snapshots to Backblaze.

dataprolet ,
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Why do you wipe your root dir?

itslilith ,
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Preventing unwanted state

If you install and then uninstall something, it will almost certainly leave logs, configurations and other garbage in places you don’t expect. Next time you want to use it, it isn’t the clean install you expected

ryannathans ,

apt purge is calling and would like a word

dataprolet , to linux in What file systems are you using on your devices and why?
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Btrfs, but I’m curious about ZFS.

Psyhackological OP ,
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Me too.

lnxtx ,
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Btrfs’ grandperson.
It needs a time to fully understand all features and quirks.

ryannathans ,

Yet surprisingly simple and easy to use

scottmeme , to linux in What file systems are you using on your devices and why?

ZFS, got 5 system with different zpools

avidamoeba ,
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On root?

ryannathans ,

Mine is

avidamoeba ,
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Manual setup?

ryannathans ,

I’m on freebsd, it’s the default out of box/installer

avidamoeba ,
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Nice.

scottmeme ,

I do have 1 system with ZFS mirror boot drives

avidamoeba ,
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Did you use an installer to do it or manual setup?

scottmeme ,

Proxmox install on the zfs mirror boot plus some other pools, everything else is currently truenas single boot drive with pools

I do have other proxmox stuff running zfs*

Nithanim ,

I started using it on my NAS and also on root. Then I switched my personal machine to ZFS on root. I manually created both setups (somehow). This is the worst part in my opinion. The best decision, though, was to ditch grub in favor of zfsbootmenu. Skips all the brittle steps with grub and its boot partition. Now I just have zfsbootmenu directly loaded by UEFI from the EFI partition. Everything important is directly on ZFS, including… well, everything. Can also use snapshots but I have not needed that yet.

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