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reddig33 , to worldnews in Unilever will let Russia employees be conscripted

Why is unilever still in Russia to begin with?

agressivelyPassive ,

Money.

ricecake ,

The same reason Intel, IBM, Google, Facebook, etc. are in Israel

paddirn , to worldnews in Assimi Goïta: President gets sweeping powers in new Mali constitution

Is this somehow tied with the seizing of all the .ml domains? Possibly tied in with restricting internet/social media access if some inconvenient protests were to break out?

133arc585 ,
@133arc585@lemmy.ml avatar

Seems entirely unrelated.

The issue with .ml domains was only its free offerings, not its paid ones. And you can thank Meta for that. They sued the registrar managing several ccTLDs, including .ml, .ga, .gq, .cf, and .tk. Meta even goes so far to fabricate a conspiracy theory about the registrar being part of a cybercriminal ring.

BrikoX OP ,
@BrikoX@lemmy.zip avatar

No. There was a contract between Mali government and a private company for 10 years to use .ml domains and it expired on July 16th and the Mali government taken back control of them. No conspiracy in that regard.

gendulf , to technology in Intel's deepfake detector tested on real and fake videos

Seems shopped.

noqturn , to world in Unilever will let Russia employees be conscripted

While I wish it was easy to condemn Unilever for this, I get it. They have a lot of employees in russia and shuttering operations would have a decidedly negative effect on those people, and it’s not like they can prohibit their employees from taking legally required actions.

dimath ,

It’s not about prohibition, no one wants to be drafted and people are hiding from it, it’s about sharing employees details and location with military recruiters.

noqturn ,

Genuine question: where in the article is it mentioned that Unilever is sharing those details? I don’t doubt that they are, but I don’t see that here.

By no means am I defending Unilever here-I consider myself very anti corporate and I don’t think any company should exist that is the size of Unilever, but the real world is less black and white.

dimath ,

Aren’t we on Reddit - I didn’t read the article :)

noqturn ,

Idk about you but I’m on lemmy

ivanafterall ,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

"Shuttering operations would have a decidedly negative effect on those people"

Yeah, that's why they're still operating there. It's for the good of the employees.

awwwyissss ,

Yeah right.

noqturn ,

Zero chance there isn’t corporate greed involved-that’s why all mega corps like this exist. But if they dip, the Russian state would at least attempt to take over the Unilever properties and operate. That would be no better for the workers-possibly worse.

Gunrigger ,

I wouldn’t be very happy if my employer decided to send me to war.

BeardyGrumps ,

Then why not say every rouble made in Russia will go to humanitarian aid? I’ll tell you why; it’s because they are still making money by being in Russia. It’s corporate greed through and through. These fuckers make no sacrifice until it hurts their bottom line.

noqturn ,

Agreed, but the alternative is not much better. Unilever dips, Russia probably tries to take over their properties and make it a state owned venture.

Alto ,
@Alto@kbin.social avatar

What part of the last year and a half makes you think the Russian government is capable of taking over and smoothly running a business that pulls out.

noqturn ,

“Probably tries”. Didn’t say succeed

Schmeckinger ,

Then destroy everything in an “accident” and then dip, since its “too costly to rebuild”

caudatecoder , to world in Unilever will let Russia employees be conscripted

you can call it Unaliver

complacent_jerboa ,

that’s actually a good one lol

average650 , to world in Unilever will let Russia employees be conscripted
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Presumably if they somehow didn’t allow it, some higher ups in Russia might find themselves suicided.

HairHeel , to worldnews in Unilever will let Russia employees be conscripted
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The BBC is also letting Unilever’s Russian employees be conscripted.

52fighters , to world in Unilever will let Russia employees be conscripted
@52fighters@kbin.social avatar

The entire executive suite should all be arrested for financing terrorist operations in Ukraine. Replace them with people who will cut operations with Russia!

magnetosphere , to news in Unilever will let Russia employees be conscripted
@magnetosphere@kbin.social avatar

So, the title of this article might as well be “Company Obeys Laws of Country They Are In”. Sure, the laws suck and the company sucks, but… why is this a story?

PowerCrazy , to worldnews in Unilever will let Russia employees be conscripted

Damn, Capitalism sure does suck.

fearout , (edited ) to news in Corfu latest Greek island to evacuate over wildfires
@fearout@kbin.social avatar

Greece can’t seem to catch a break. This is now what, a fifth island/region to be engulfed in wildfires?

And their hottest month of the year is usually august :(

jeffw , to worldnews in Spain's conservatives miss out on all-out victory as left celebrates
@jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

That’s just insane that the far right took a hit after polls showing them growing in popularity

maporita OP ,

It’s insane that a country which suffered so much under a fascist dictatorship would want to return fascists to power.

jeffw ,
@jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

As soon as people who remember it start dying off, the fascist apologists start coming out.

It’s like how anti-vax can grow because nobody in the young generations met anyone with polio.

massive_bereavement ,
@massive_bereavement@kbin.social avatar

Also I think that nostalgia works in a way where we remember more good times than hardships; humans are good adapting to any bullshit situation to the point we can call it comfortable and finally we look kindly to the past because old people remember mostly being young and healthy above all (despite not making this link mentally).

That's why everyone has this nostalgia for their youth, not because the 60s or 80s where a good time.

jeffw ,
@jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

Sure, like how white conservatives in the USA want life to be like the 1950s

MaxVoltage ,
@MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

conservatives in the states want to return to 1850

Chainweasel ,

DeSantis is already pushing propaganda in Florida schools about how much better black people had it as slaves. I’d be shocked if they didn’t try to repeal the 13th amendment by the end of the decade.

fidodo ,

“wasn’t the world so much better back before we ruined everything for everyone? Why can’t we go back to those times?”

LiamMayfair ,

Making short-sighted decisions to obtain results quickly is just human nature.

Fascists, populists and demagogues exploit this flaw in human nature to rise up. They promise big things using big words to masses of people who are uneducated, jaded, or both.

Some people in Spain, like in many other countries right now (USA, Greece, Italy…) are turning to fascism because they feel squeezed dry and let down (unemployment, Covid economic hangover, inflation, etc.) by their current governments, so they run to the people sat in the opposite (or most extreme) end of the political spectrum hoping they can turn things around.

With such a simplistic, binary mindset, coupled with a younger generation of voters who have not experienced what it’s like to live in a fascist country, it’s no wonder fascism and belligerent nationalism is gaining traction in the West. I just hope we can turn things around before more European countries follow on Hungary’s steps.

modulus ,

It’s not primarily the younger voters going fash though. Otherwise I mostly agree with your comment.

jalda ,

I am not familiar with the demographics of other countries, but in Spain, Vox is quite popular amongst the young people. Old people tend to be very loyal to “their” party and keep voting PP, even though they agree with Vox’s main talking points.

LiamMayfair ,

The younger voters are indeed pushing fascism, at least in Spain. I had also assumed ultraconservative, nationalist movements would be more popular with the older demographic in Spain but, proving my point that it’s those who didn’t experience Franco’s dictatorship who are buying into the far-right ideals, Vox voters are on average 8 years younger than voters of other parties in the country (apologies for the link to Spanish media).

I don’t know if this is any different in other countries but in Spain the people swallowing the fascist pill are very much your archetypical white, privileged, young male.

sneezycat ,
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Which is ironic, because the rights those people have, like unemployment, WILL go away if the far-right wins, and they’ll be worse off.

huojtkeg ,

You are mixing far-right with liberals (less regulation). In Spain there aren’t liberal partys. You can check the group they belong in the EU parlament.

fugepe ,

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  • anewbeginning ,

    If you want to understand why an opposing force gains ground look at what the force in power is doing.

    lilmagpie ,
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    Imagine if Hitler had won. That’s what happened in Spain. Francisco Franco governed for 40 years, till he was too old and sick to keep doing so. He never faced any consequences and died of old age.

    During all those years he indoctrinated the new generations and set a precedent, culturally. So even though more than a hundred thousand people suffered and died under his dictatorship, he still has a lot of supporters that are very vocal about it and his influence still permeates spanish society nowadays. You could look up “franquismo cultural” if you’re interested.

    Zerush ,
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    Don’t forget the right wing media and almost all politicians of the PP are members of the OPUS, as say, spokesmen of the catholic church.

    expatriado , to news in Taliban beauty salon ban: Three Afghan women mourn the end of a valued service

    they lasted this long?

    regul , to worldnews in Spain's conservatives miss out on all-out victory as left celebrates

    Are there enough centrists who were elected to inevitably collaborate with the fascists to create a majority?

    massive_bereavement ,
    @massive_bereavement@kbin.social avatar

    Enlightened centrist moment™

    DreamerOfImprobableDreams , (edited )

    Thankfully, enough parties have pledged not to coalition with the far right that it looks like they'll be boxed out of power. Most likely outcome seems to be Sanchez's center-left party allying with further-left parties and regional / secessionist parties to form a minority government.

    Things could still fuck up during coalition negotiations, but for now I'm cautiously optimistic. Probably the best possible outcome, given the circumstances.

    (Also the far right party lost half its seats in Parliament, lmaoooooooo)

    Zerush ,
    @Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

    Not so much, these are only had changed to the PP, almost the same crap. 20 less in one side and 20 more on the other. Luckily they have not achieved an absolute majority, this would have catapulted us to the 70s.

    gary_host_laptop ,
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    Enlightened centrist: What is my purpose?
    Rick: You collaborate with the fascists.
    Enlightened centrist: Oh my god

    thisisnotcoincedence , to worldnews in Taliban beauty salon ban: Three Afghan women mourn the end of a valued service

    The Taliban really do live with a backwards mentality. A story book shouldn’t define the rights of people.

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