From a purely practical perspective, it immediately balloons the security costs of the tour through the end of the year. Black was smart to cancel the tour and probably saved a few dozen lives in the process, giving how trigger happy Trump’s base has proven itself to be.
Maybe. It seems like a bit of an overreaction to me, and I really don’t like the idea that we can’t say mean things about their god emperor because they’ll get mad and be violent. Has Muslim and Mohammed vibes.
I really don’t like the idea that we can’t say mean things about their god emperor because they’ll get mad and be violent
I don’t like it either. But that’s stocastic terrorism for you. It’s anti-populist and anti-liberty by design.
Only solution is to police the fascists until they’re more scared of you than you are of them. And that doesn’t work if the cops are on the fascists’ side.
Has Muslim and Mohammed vibes.
No shortage of Christian terrorism. Just ask any abortion clinic nurse.
No shortage of Christian terrorism. Just ask any abortion clinic nurse.
The clinic that did the selective termination that saved my twins’ lives had to be so cloak and dagger about their stuff that we literally had no idea we were showing up to the termination until they’re wheeling my wife back to surgery. It’s one of the only clinics in the state that even does the procedure we needed to my knowledge. That’s how many bomb threats, arson and assassination attempts they deal with.
Serious question, if you don’t mind. How did a selective termination save twins’ lives? Was your wife originally carrying triplets or quadruplets in a high-risk pregnancy? I’m entirely pro-choice, the wording is just a little odd and I’m having a hard time parsing the meaning.
Advocating shooting someone is just “mean things” now?
I understand the sentiment, but it doesn’t all fall under the same umbrella. Saying he has small hands and advocating that someone shoot him dead are not the same thing.
I understand your sentiment as well, but it gets old seeing so much hand-wringing about advocating violence against a fascist who advocates violence while giving his violent followers a pass. “Oh, that’s just how they are! We have to coddle them or they’ll kill people! But you’re terrible!”
Yeah, Trump was mid-speech “here’s how we’re going to deport every single just-minding-their-own-business brown family from our country” when he got shot, too.
Not that that was why he got shot, but it does make all the handwringing funnier.
I get that its a heavily inappropriate thing to say right now, but at the end of the day it’s an edgy joke, and while ending the tour because of security concerns (and pr concerns) makes sense, cutting all professional ties with the guy seems a bit extreme, especially since he’s already apologized
Having an effigy of a beheaded Trump is more of an edgy joke (Kathy Griffin in 2017). Wishing an assignation attempt that actually occurred to have been successful is a little different.
I’m talking about Kyle Gass here, was it him or Kathy Griffin that did the effigy? That’s a lot more than making a joke about a possible president thats more than likely going to fuck up the entire world hadnt dodged a bullet, but again, if it wasnt, and were just talking about a joke, Once again its not inappropriate enough to end an entire lifetime relationship over, especially after he apologized and owned up to it being inappropriate
Did he actually end a relationship? Or just cancel the tour? I would argue that if he would have died and actually become a martyr it would be much worse. I also don’t think of he does actually win the whole world is going to be f’d up. Thats mostly just rhetoric. Will he suck? Yup. Will he be there next putin that has unlimited terms? No chance.
And when the war started and he was terrorised by the sound of bombs falling, someone always said things were going to be ok. Muhammed was heavy and found movement difficult.
Along with other residents of Shejaiya, east of Gaza City centre, the Bhars were given orders to evacuate by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF).
But the Bhars were tired of moving.In a weary tone, Nabila, who is a widow, reeled off the names of relatives’ homes where they’d sought shelter.“We evacuated around 15 times.
Nabila says there were several dozen soldiers with a combat dog - animals used to find Hamas fighters, and check for booby traps and explosives.
A terrified Muhammed, who had always depended on his family for help, was now in the care of combat soldiers, who had come from streets where they’d been fighting close quarter battles with Hamas.
“This scene I will never forget… I constantly see the dog tearing at him and his hand, and the blood pouring from his hand… It is always in front of my eyes, never leaving me for a moment.
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I really hope this is just PR shit and Jack Black isnt ending a friendship with a longterm friend over an edgy joke, cause like man, I know he’s a celebrity, but I had a lot of respect for him up until this point
Just the other day, I looked at him with his shaggy ass beard, half done up bright shirt and too large shorts singing whatever the fuck and thought to myself:
“I have mad respect for jack black, That is a man that truly does not give a fuck. I should try and be more like him”
And then this reaction comes out and all that is gone and I’m reminded that I’m a terrible judge of character.
I think its more because instead of just saying “hey that’s not cool” he publicly shat on his friend and threw him under the bus, disbanded the band, cancelled the concert.
He obviously knows Kyle pretty well, so this sentiment can’t be a surprise to him. So therefore he has no integrity by supporting his friend behind closed doors and being two faced when his sentiments are aired in public.
Part of not giving a fuck is having the integrity to be who you truly are, and from his reaction I can see is just an act.
It goes both ways though. Kyle should also know his friend wouldn’t be happy about potentially losing his career over calls to murder a person for political reasons.
Disclaimer: I fucking hate Trump and wish he was killed years ago so I’m not saying I disagree with what Kyle said, I’m just disagreeing with when he chose to express it because he was there representing tenacious D which extends to jack as well. I’ll also add that at this point I worry that killing Trump now would only replace him with someone actually competent to drive the fascism train over the tracks that are already firmly in place, but that’s a different discussion.
Jack did a fundraiser for Biden. I suspect he’s just toeing the Dem line on this one. Doesn’t really want to see “Democrat fundraiser calls for death of Trump” splashed across the news.
If I was about to go on tour with my best friend and he said something stupid that put us in danger from real life lunatics with guns, I’d fucking cancel the tour too because I cared about us both and our relationship. Besides, if you can’t tell your friends they’re wrong when they’re wrong, they’re not really your friend. This isn’t necessarily the act of betrayal you’re making it out to be.
I’m betting that making this statement publicly makes it easier to break the tour contracts, rather than backing out of the tour without saying why.
That part I understand, its the “put future projects on haitus” I’m commenting about. Although I guess I gave more detail in my other comment than I did this one so fair play
And doesn’t this go both ways? One of my favorite sayings is: a friend is someone who when you’ve made a fool of yourself, doesn’t think you’ve done a permanent job of it. Perhaps Jack Black could forgive his best friend and move along. Perhaps make a joint statement at the next event.
As a disabled person, “special” in reference to disabled people is imo one of the worst ableist slurs, I find it more offensive than retard. my experience isn’t universal, but I just wanted to let you know, I know it was just a joke and I don’t want to make you feel bad, but I have to be honest and say, it does hurt a bit to see it.
In all seriousness, where the line between funny and offensive is drawn is completely subjective. My line is obviously different than others. I didn’t feel that my puns were personally directed at anyone and I didn’t see them as perpetuating any harmful stigma or stereotypes. It uses a word I wouldn’t actually use in daily life but the pun wouldn’t work otherwise. Life has a lot of legitimate malicious people out there that there’s no need to split hairs to find more. There is no subjective way to look at what the IDF did in this case. It is objectively malicious and evil. I didn’t expect my puns to be the thing that upset people.
I thought of another joke. Being mindful, I’ve hidden the punchline. You’ve been warned!
Say the guy here was Hamas. Do you think he'd carry...a .38 Special?
I understand that you probably don’t really recognise the impact of ableist slurs, but as someone who has been bullied, harassed, beaten up and sexually assaulted by people mocking me by using those slurs, they trigger a bit of a traumatic response. It’s not that they’re directed at anyone in particular, it’s just that they’re never possible to use in reference to disabled people without being, at the very least, extremely patronising, and extremely dehumanising at the worst.
I completely get that you didn’t intend any harm, and you were trying to criticise the IDF in your own way, and I’m really sympathetic towards that: fuck the IDF, 100%, they’re incredibly evil.
All I am doing is just asking you to please reconsider using ableist slurs as jokes in the future, that’s all. We’re all human, we all make mistakes, and it’s a completely normal reaction to protect our own ego when someone tells us that we hurt them in some way, so I don’t blame you for your reaction, but please try to overcome that knee-jerk reaction <3
It’s not a knee jerk reaction. You’re one person out of 8 billion. I’m treating your request the way I’d treat any request made to me by a random person on the internet. <3
How many people are you willing to harm before you change your behaviour? What’s the trade off in human suffering compared to the positives of making your joke?
So far I still think I’m in the positives. You didn’t like the joke. That’s fine. You don’t speak for all disabled people. You never even asked if I’m disabled.
I already said that I don’t speak for all disabled people, though, anecdotally, in groups that I’m in (I volunteer with a disability support group), the terms special and special needs are often highlighted as ableist terms that disabled people find offensive or get used against them as slurs. Some research online also bears that out, a number of reputable sources online have recommended avoiding the use of the terms special and special needs.
It doesn’t really particularly matter whether you’re disabled or not. This isn’t about identity, it’s about using a slur. If you had used the n-word as part of a joke and got backlash I think you’d understand this a bit better.
You’re being pretty callous around the fact that you genuinely emotionally hurt me, I’ve been as respectful, kind and considerate of you and your feelings as I can be. How do you expect to build a people-led movement to dismantle the exploitation of the working class if you can’t bring yourself to even care for one other person? On just a human level, I’m not trying to have an argument where I one-up you or something like that, this isn’t some debate to win or lose, I’m just talking to you, human to human, and trying to help you to understand that you’re unintentionally hurting people who are one of the most vulnerable minorities in society.
I truly hope that you’re just being a bit edgy and that in future you really will think twice about this kind of thing, regardless of what you write now.
So Gazans with Down syndrome look similar to Westerners with Down syndrome. In a way it makes me feel like all of us in world are less different than we might think.
TBH I don’t give a single solitary fuck who Republicans think or don’t think is allowed to do anything. That doesn’t mean Jack Black has to risk his life over some ha has.
This barely would be known if it wasn’t for them splitting up over about it though. They said it to an Australian crowd. They ain’t doing anything about it.
There have been no statements about the band ending, but they have almost certainly ended the Australian Tour, sadly. Gass has also been dropped by Greene Talent agency, so he might have to work to regain trust from the business suits if they want to do big events again. Both Gass and Black have both been apologetic and on the same page with their public statements.
They once wrote and performed a song about killing politicians and ruling as idiot kings, they’ll be fine.
Most of the western world fought back against the Nazis in WWII for the very reason that fascism is deeply hostile to a healthy democracy and a free society.
Kyle was right: we didn’t teach our soldiers to miss back then, so there is no excuse to miss now.
Almost like it’s a mental illness or cult… But nope, perfectly normal. You are the one that’s crazy! You should wear more diapers and ear patches about that.
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