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TerryMathews , to news in First US nuclear sub docks in South Korea since 1981

So first off, I don’t like the headline. All US subs are nuclear, but this feels like burying the story: parking an SSBN at South Korea is a very specific message. It carries 20 Trident II missiles, each capable of carry 8 475kt warheads (but likely only armed with 4 due to treaty limitations).

38 Megatons of independently targetable nuclear destruction.

That said, the story also talks about how this will drive KJU from the table - as if he was ever there in the first place. Given the state of their current activities, I don’t think reminding him that he’s fucking around with a country that worked out nuclear delivery via ICBM half a century ago is overly aggressive.

IMO, at some point, someone (and I’m not saying the US necessarily) is going to have to go in and depose the regime and integrate the population into modern society. North Korea is a bigger threat to world stability than Russia, and today that’s really saying something.

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  • Chainweasel ,

    Russia may threaten and posture the use of nuclear weapons, and have started a losing war with their neighbor, but it’s far less likely that they would actually use the weapons. Even if Putin ordered it there’s a lot of people between him and the weapons that could prevent the use. He’s a dictator but barely, he needs to keep the oligarchs happy to keep his office, and the oligarchs don’t want to live out the rest of their lives in cramped bunkers in Siberia when the earth is irradiated. DPRK on the other hand is an actual dictatorship, with few people between Kim and a launch, and is actually unstable enough to do it. Also, with their carelessness around their “test launches” they’re much more likely to cause an international incident by dropping a half-fueled rocket stage on Japan.

    TerryMathews ,

    At this point with Russia I’m more concerned with them causing an Ukrainian nuclear power plant to melt down.

    QuinceDaPence ,

    Didn't the plants all get safely shut down before the Russians got there? If so, they can't cause a meltdown unless they actually try to start the reactors.

    Not to say they can't cause something bad to happen, especially since they are storing munitions in there but it wouldn't be a meltdown. I would assume fuel material wouldn't get thrown as far/the core wouldn't be compromised but that would take someone more knowledgable than me on this.

    TerryMathews ,

    Didn’t the plants all get safely shut down before the Russians got there? If so, they can’t cause a meltdown unless they actually try to start the reactors.

    Are the shutdown? Yes. Safely? Definitely not. The type of reactor they are and the fuel they use, requires active cooling as it remains hot for years.

    Zaporizhzhia is the plant in question, and it’s water supply is in jeopardy after the destruction of the Kakhovka dam.

    With the plant not in active operation, it’s unlikely we’d see an incident on the level of Chernobyl but it’s far from safe.

    TerryMathews ,

    How would you feel if you were a South Korean? Knowing that your brothers to the North want to kill or conquer you simply because they’re not happy with the half of the continent they chose because, ultimately, the US was a better development partner than Russia and China?

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  • TerryMathews ,

    One could make the exact same argument against North Korea… Why is it that our ally should be sacrificed on the altar of global stability?

    MedicPigBabySaver ,

    How would you like to live in Japan and get actual missle launch warnings?

    That alone is pretty fucked up and should be dealt with.

    freagle , to worldnews in First US nuclear sub docks in South Korea since 1981

    This is scary AF

    bernieecclestoned , to news in Wagner: Satellite images reveal Belarus camp arrival

    Are they going to try and take Kyiv with 600 men?

    bernieecclestoned , to news in Qin Gang: China's 'missing' foreign minister sparks guessing game

    I spy?

    Usually_Lurker , to worldnews in Wagner: Satellite images reveal Belarus camp arrival
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    A large convoy of suspected Wagner fighters has arrived from Russia at a new camp in Belarus, new satellite images reveal. BBC Verify’s analysis shows dozens of vehicles entering the camp at Tsel, a disused military base in southern Belarus - about 64 miles (103km) from the capital Minsk.

    medicsofanarchy , to worldnews in Poland: Plane crash at Chrcynno hangar kills five and injures seven
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    So… “Bad weather was probably the cause of the crash” - and they dispatched 4 helicopters to the scene. There’s a puzzle piece missing here somewhere.

    LemmyFeed , to world in Tupac Shakur: Police search house over 1996 killing

    They’re still investing this? I wonder why they keep this case open while presumably closing many other unsolved cases throughout the years.

    tDSpPd2C9MrT8n ,

    It’s not uncommon for cases to just be left open for decades, and it is common for cases that have been left open for decades to be randomly picked back up when some new method of investigation can be used or new evidence found, sometimes leading to arrests for crimes comitted even 40 years ago.

    lechatron ,
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    They’re still investing this?

    I doubt someone has been actively investigating the case for the last 27 years, but murder has no statute of limitations so there isn’t any reason to close the case until it’s solved.

    ivanafterall ,
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    You underestimate that one die-hard Tupac fan in the LVPD.

    vinceman ,

    It’s actually Frank Lyga again.

    jocanib ,

    Unsolved cases don’t typically get closed. And when they eventually get solved, it hits the news. You’ve read many stories like it, for sure.

    In this case, it sounds like there is new evidence. No big mystery.

    histy , to world in Tupac Shakur: Police search house over 1996 killing

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  • Beetschnapps ,

    Where does it say in the article that it was his house?

    “Detectives carried out the search at a home in Henderson, a suburb of Las Vegas where Shakur was gunned down in September 1996.”

    deegeese ,

    Maybe someone held on to the murder weapon?

    JoeKrogan , to world in Tupac Shakur: Police search house over 1996 killing
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    Orlando anderson’s uncle Keefe D said they were in the car and Anderson was the shooter. Anderson was in an altercation that night with Pac and death row over a stolen chain. They were crips and death row were mob pirus bloods. It was just some gangbanger shit unfortunately. Anderson was later killed in another altercation.

    BarrierWithAshes , to world in Tupac Shakur: Police search house over 1996 killing
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    What's there to find? It was Suge Knight.

    SnugZebras , to news in Tupac Shakur: Police search house over 1996 killing

    Wow, I wonder if anything will come of this. It’s been close to 30 years, I doubt any evidence is still around

    BrooklynMan , (edited ) to worldnews in Arresting Vladimir Putin in South Africa would be 'declaration of war', says Ramaphosa
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    lol, do it anyway. let’s see russia hike its troops all the way to the southern tip of Africa. Putin can barely muster enough fighters and ammo for one war on his own border. let’s see him try to fight another one half a planet away, lmao. it might as well be in space-- at least there are some russians there already! 🤣

    rustyfish ,
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    This. The big bad menace that could have invaded Europe any time in the last decades, stumbled in its own front yard and broke its teeth.

    BrooklynMan ,
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    lol, what an amusing metaphor. much better than the “drunk bear in a china shop” I was thinking of.

    xuxebiko ,

    Russia could use its mercenaries aka PMC that is has scattred all over the African continent.

    Dreyns ,

    That’s true but if anything happen I think it would be akin to what israel did with former nazi, quick collect and extract.

    xuxebiko ,

    That'd be fantastic.

    Dreyns ,

    Apparently he’s not going, who would have thought ! > ¯⁠\⁠⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠⁠/⁠¯

    MrVilliam ,

    The thing about mercenaries is that they will only fight so long as they’re getting paid. Nobody wants rubles, so they would expect currency conversion, and this is while the Russian economy is in the toilet. Russia also has a bad history in terms of keeping their word even if you could trust that the country weren’t in a spiral, so most PMCs aren’t exactly gonna get excited for any deal that doesn’t include payment upfront. If Putin is jailed, I think we’re more likely to see a power vacuum in Moscow than people scrambling to free him and go to war against South Africa. Putin only has power so long as he is surrounded by protectors loyal to him. I’m not sure any of them are that loyal to him at this point. He’s fucked the country with this invasion, and he’s getting old, and the rumor is that he’s very sick and possibly terminal, but that part could be propaganda designed to get loyalists to second guess their allegiance.

    Although, to be fair, Russians haven’t exactly made a lot of good decisions lately, so maybe there are enough ignorant dumbasses in the region to decide to go to war. Devout nationalists might continue to fight despite empty bellies, but they won’t fight well.

    anteaters ,

    Maybe they’ll bring along some of that grain that they don’t want to allow through the Black Sea. Putin claimed with his big heart that Russia would not let Africa starve after all.

    nogooduser ,

    They’d probably say that Ukraine and/or NATO is letting Africa starve somehow.

    anteaters ,

    Damn those NATO sissies and the Satan’s homogays! They are just too powerful in Africa for mighty Russia and god’s holy war.

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    PersnickityPenguin ,

    Yeah but that’s literally thousands of miles away. It would take Wagner weeks of driving from Sudan to get to South Africa, and then they would get blown to pieces.

    SturgiesYrFase ,
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    Not saying that isn’t a fact, Africa is fuckin huge. Just saying they’re a bit closer than Russia

    eyy , to news in Arresting Vladimir Putin in South Africa would be 'declaration of war', says Ramaphosa

    It’s South Africa. Putin will be safe as long as Russia keeps building in the country.

    BrikoX OP ,
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    Likely, but there is an international arrest warrant for him, so South Africa should arrest him themselves. But it’s well known that rules doesn’t apply to nuclear powers, so Putin will be free…

    InverseParallax , to news in Arresting Vladimir Putin in South Africa would be 'declaration of war', says Ramaphosa

    Arresting Vladimir Putin in South Africa would be ‘declaration of war’

    Ie only the US could get away with it.

    BrikoX OP ,
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    Any nuclear power could, not just US, but for that same reason nothing will probably happen.

    Aux ,

    No one will arrest Putin. And especially not the US. Otherwise US will legitimise ICC and they will never do that.

    tabular , to worldnews in Arresting Vladimir Putin in South Africa would be 'declaration of war', says Ramaphosa
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    What does South Africa get out of him visiting? Disregarding the idea of peace talks.

    Selmafudd ,

    Without looking I’d guess trade deals

    BrikoX OP , (edited )
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    They get money and Putin can pretent he still has influence around the world.

    ackzsel ,

    Well, it's not pretending if you're actually influencing countries with money.

    electrogamerman ,

    No offense, but South Africa? That’s scaring no one

    zephyrvs ,

    It seems you’re not really familar with what’s happening in Africa right now and I can’t fault you for that because Western media has been terrible about reporting about what we’re doing to Africa. (Please excuse me if I’m completely off here, I can only go with what you provided thus far.)

    According to my research a lot of countries on the African continent are actively working towards dedollarization by building independent central bank transfer infrastructure to finally get rid of the shackles of Western neo-colonial soft power and China/Russia/BRICS are a god-sent for them.

    And thinking that Putin doesn’t have influence (and thus, he has to pretend otherwise) is kinda… ignorant?

    BrikoX OP ,
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    While there has been a lot of talk in Africa about dedollarisation to my knowledge only Zimbabwe went though with it as of now and to mixed results at best. BRICS been stuck since it’s inception as they can’t even agree on what currency they want to use.

    While they do look at China and Russia positively as it’s very beneficial for them at the moment they also try to avoid going all in with either side as to not alienate the west.

    Well if you look around, all the Russia’s allies are mad at them. They refused to help Armenia with Azerbaijan so they turned to Iran and India, Turkey who were always neutral to Russia shifted more to EU/NATO, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan are both looking for different military partners as Russia refused to back either side, Kazakhstan is looking to Turkey instead of Russia, and many more examples. So, no I’m not ignorant. He’s loosing the influence he used to have and focusing on Africa who like you said are eager to take the money is just him trying to pretent he’s still in control.

    tabular ,
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    Doesn’t that bet on Putin still being alive in the long term, or Russia’s next leader still being aan ally? Seems short sighted.

    Kecessa ,

    North America and Europe stopped supporting African countries, they decided to turn to other rich countries instead.

    zephyrvs ,

    It’s more like we made promises we didn’t keep (like transferring financial aid, investments in infrastructure projects, etc) and instead Western countries still bleed part of Africa’s economy dry and I can understand that they’re fed up with it. I only hope that China and Russia won’t just be a wolf in sheep’s disguise, since they’re also imperialist and it’d be naive to expect them to help Africa become a strong contender to their economies.

    Duamerthrax ,

    New boss, same as the old boss.

    African nations would be better off to continue pushing for an African Union and bring collective bargaining power when dealing with the new and old colonists.

    zephyrvs ,

    Well, there are plans to create a SWIFT alternative (?)/digital currency for African nations to trade between themselves. They’re not simply relying on BRICS, it would seem.

    tabular ,
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    Did they do that for money or disagreements (e.g. treatment of LGBT people)?

    Imhotep ,

    I was just looking it up for South Africa

    The EU is South Africa’s most important development partner. Its €281 million bilateral cooperation programme is reinforced by grants for thematic focal areas. Further, the European Investment Bank makes available €462 million in long-term loans.

    source

    (I don’t know much about the subject, this is from a quick Google search)

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