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Crow , to fediverse in The BBC on Mastodon: experimenting with distributed and decentralised social media
@Crow@lemmy.world avatar

As a Canadian I’ve sent a formal letter to the CBC asking them to do the same. I’d suggest other Canadians join me and send formal letters to CBC on their site if you want something like this here in Canada. Personally, I really like how BBC did this and would love others to follow.

Comment105 , to fediverse in The BBC on Mastodon: experimenting with distributed and decentralised social media

Is Mastodon compatible with Lemmy?

srai ,
emeralddawn45 ,

I’ve seen people say this, but how? Are any lemmy clients compatible with mastodon in the sense that you can follow people or instances? I thought that was the big draw of kbin, that it combined both.

jocanib OP ,

You can follow Lemmy communities on your Mastadon account. But I wouldn’t recommend it. You get a string of out-of-context posts dominating your feed.

emeralddawn45 ,

I mean I’d be more interested in it going the other way, and following a few mastodon accounts on my lemmy app. I’m not on mastodon and don’t care to post there, but it’d be nice to be able to see some select things in my feed.

toroknos_07 ,
@toroknos_07@sh.itjust.works avatar

Try kbin, they are still separate feeds I think but you get both on the same website

jocanib OP ,

Kbin does Lemmy and Mastadon.

srai ,
@srai@feddit.de avatar

From a mastodon users point of view a Lemmy user behaves like another Mastodon user. For instance this is what my Lemmy profile looks like from mastodon:

https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/f3954e78-ac59-4037-b9b3-92a7dde62618.png

Lemmy communities also behave kinda like users:

https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/38738eb5-0c1d-4d1a-932b-62a5964227c6.png.

Even though they boost ( e.g. “retweet” ) everything that has been posted to the community. Be it a thread or a new comment.

The big upside of kbin is, that it, as you said, combines micro blogging and news aggregation. While Mastodonusers can interact with lemmy content users on lemmy can only reply to comments posted from Mastodon. We have no real way to send a toot (e.g. “tweet”) to mastodon deliberately.

NicoCharrua ,
@NicoCharrua@lemmy.ca avatar

Only somewhat. Lemmy Communities show up as users when viewed from mastodon, that boost every single post and comment in the community (so browsing it is near impossible, and there is no sorting). Mastodon users can interact with posts (but can’t downvote), and they can post by @-ing the community.

You can’t follow mastodon users or view mastodon posts from Lemmy. I heard kbin had some functionality to do with this tho

Comment105 ,

Gonna be honest, Fediverse is alpha as shit.

In terms of being unfinished, not chad-like.

This is gonna take a whiiiiiile to get real good, if reworking these things is even on the table.

MortyMcFry ,
@MortyMcFry@aussie.zone avatar

It’s sad that I thought you meant the chad version first. My brain is corrupted

Tangent5280 ,

Refuse to work properly with other applications but still allow some functionality in a slightly different interfacing out of good will for each other

Refuse to elaborate

Leave

MortyMcFry ,
@MortyMcFry@aussie.zone avatar

What?

NicoCharrua ,
@NicoCharrua@lemmy.ca avatar

I agree in a lot of ways. Lemmy does feel very beta at times. Mastodon does feel much more finished, except for the fact that favorites and boosts don’t federate properly a lot of the time.

But this specifically feels perfectly fine to me. The fact that they’re interoperable at all is more than I’d expect. Lemmy and Mastodon are so different in how they show content that I can’t think of a much better way to do it (other than maybe having communities boost only posts and not comments when seen from mastodon).

How do you think they should be reworked to work better with each other?

hallenbeck ,

Is Mastodon compatible with Lemmy?

vijayprema.com/using-lemmy-from-my-existing-masto…

I’ve been doing this a lot over on lemmy.world/c/coys. I mostly post directly from my Mastodon account.

Sometimes I have to jump over and use my Lemmy account because, for example, you can’t post links (that I know of) in the same way you can directly on Lemmy.

CommunityLinkFixer Bot ,

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !coys

simple , (edited ) to fediverse in The BBC on Mastodon: experimenting with distributed and decentralised social media

It’s interesting that they decided to make their own server and not just join a popular instances like Mastodon Social. I know part of it is then experimenting but if the goal is to just have a presence in the Fediverse, it sounds like a lot of effort for little reason.

jocanib OP ,

It’s instant verification for all their accounts and an instance that won’t disappear on them.

joe ,
@joe@lemmy.world avatar

It’s interesting you have this opinion; I figured this would be the biggest draw for corporations-- they’re no longer beholden to some third party for their media presence-- it’s all hosted and controlled by themselves;.

In email terms, it’s the difference between [email protected] and [email protected].

Edit: I don’t have any idea why I went with tide, so if you find yourself wondering why I did that, get in line. haha

jet ,

I would give you all the uploads if I could. This 1,000%

XpeeN ,
breakfastmtn , (edited )
@breakfastmtn@geddit.social avatar

It also solves the verification problem. It’s without a doubt the best way to go for an organization - especially news orgs.

Kushi ,

That’s true, but to be honest there’s already a pretty good verification system on Mastodon, even if you don’t host your own instance.

breakfastmtn , (edited )
@breakfastmtn@geddit.social avatar

Yes and no. And verifying by domain is better, especially for people who are likely to be impersonated (ex. Journalists).

Rel=“me” doesn’t actually verify a user’s identity, it verifies that a user has a relationship with a website. The problem is that you need to leave Mastodon to make sure that the website actually verifies their identity. I’ve verified a connection between a Mastodon and Pixelfed account, for example, but it doesn’t tell you anything about who I am. It’s also much easier to spoof a website than it is to get the BBC to give you an account on their private instance.

It really works great the other way though! If you have a known identity here, you can be sure that the linked sites are legit.

Kichae ,

You may as well say the same thing about having their own website vs using Facebook.

This kind of thing is exactly the point of the Fediverse. They control and own their content, they control who gets to post from their URL.

Luci ,
@Luci@lemmy.ca avatar

Treat it like email. Thats how Mastodon will grow

Prior_Industry ,

Could be that BBC employees can have their own accounts on mastodon going forward

JoeKrogan ,
@JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

I guess with twitter they learned the lesson of being beholden to a rogue CEO/admin who can take away verified status or change the rules on a whim. It is better that they maintain their own official presence that they control.

meldroc ,

No, this is what they should be doing. It’s the difference between owning your house and renting. They get to make the rules on their instance, they’re not at the mercy of a tech bro company or a trash billionaire that might have a political agenda against actual journalism…

After what happened to the BBC and NPR on Twitter, who can blame them for saying “Fine, we’ll do it ourselves!”

urda ,
@urda@lebowski.social avatar

You’ve missed the entire point of Federation then.

lobut , to worldnews in Lori Vallow: Cult mum who killed children sentenced to life in prison

She also said the spirits of the three victims often visited her and had told her she “didn’t do anything wrong”.

JFC

iAmTheTot ,
@iAmTheTot@kbin.social avatar

Prescription copium.

ArugulaZ ,

"Let's look at that again with the power of DELUSION!" ~ Jay Sherman

ArugulaZ , to worldnews in Lori Vallow: Cult mum who killed children sentenced to life in prison

I think they did a Dateline episode about this whacko. Had the kids buried in the backyard, right? I won't wish violence on her, but that is very likely her fate, considering what she's done.

Snipe_AT , (edited ) to fediverse in The BBC on Mastodon: experimenting with distributed and decentralised social media
@Snipe_AT@lemmy.atay.dev avatar

Someone tell me how to feel! Do I hate this or like this!?

edit: I have been told to like this, and thus… I do.


Disclaimer: please ignore my negative initial vote score, as I have the privilege of being bot-downvoted by CCP sympathizers because of comments on this post lemmy.world/post/2338419, there is also the possibility that I’m just an asshole.

sabreW4K3 ,
@sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf avatar

It’s a news organisation, so it’s okay. We definitely want more journalists and news organisations in the Fediverse. I’d much rather have them directly on mastodon than the million different bird.tld mirrors.

Tatters ,

Yes, and it also prides itself on journalistic values, unlike a lot of the Murdoch empire, for example.

m0nka ,

yes, unless it reports on the Iraq war and use ‘embedded’ journalists or reports on the Syria war and instead of sending journalists on the ground, just reprints white house memos or reporting on lgbt issues and just parrots gender critical views. But apart from that, it’s integrity is 100%, or just the bar is too low these days, idk ;(

aBundleOfFerrets ,

Its all biased waffling, but personally I prefer governments more than corporations.

m0nka ,

yeah, totally. But if BBC calls for your rape and lynching, and then you see your opinion downvoted, it only means lemmy is as toxic as reddit.

Chruesimuesi ,

This seems quite a harsh accusation. Would you be able to link the BBC article where they called for someone’s rape and lynching.

Btw, I assume the downvotes arrived because your posts seem a bit toxic 🤔 But you can prove me wrong, once you linked the article you mentioned.

ZodiacSF1969 ,

Ah yes, I too remember when the BBC openly advocated rape and lynching.

LexiconDexicon ,

BBC is not a news organization, it’s government propaganda as it always was intended

Jackthelad ,

People on the left think it’s government propaganda, people on the right think it’s left-wing.

These things can’t both be correct.

aBundleOfFerrets ,

Why not?

tabular ,
@tabular@lemmy.world avatar

The current UK government isn’t left wing.

SpezCanLigmaBalls , (edited )
@SpezCanLigmaBalls@lemmy.world avatar

there is also the possibility that I’m just an asshole

Me anytime I do anything that sometimes gets anyone slightly upset

I can’t figure out how to quote that comment. When I click the quote things it doesn’t work. I have settled with italics

Got it thanks

Snipe_AT ,
@Snipe_AT@lemmy.atay.dev avatar

Me anytime I do anything that sometimes gets anyone slightly upset

Exactly my thoughts.

p.s. You can quote using the “>” (greater than) symbol at the beginning of the line.


Disclaimer: please ignore my negative initial vote score, as I have the privilege of being bot-downvoted by CCP sympathizers because of comments on this post lemmy.world/post/2338419, there is also the possibility that I’m just an asshole.

WarmSoda ,

Dude, get rid of that stupid disclaimer. Do you seriously put that at the bottom of all your comments?

No one cares.

Snipe_AT ,
@Snipe_AT@lemmy.atay.dev avatar

Love you too man!


Disclaimer: please ignore my initial negative vote score, as I have the privilege of being bot-downvoted by CCP sympathizers because of comments on this post lemmy.world/post/2338419, there is also the possibility that I’m just an asshole.

Transcendant ,

You can manually do a quote block the same as on reddit, just put a right-chevron (I don’t know how to type it without it triggering quote, mine is the same key as “.”) directly before the text

joe ,
@joe@lemmy.world avatar

Just like on reddit, the escape character is a . You can easily remember this by thinking of all the shrug emoticons that were missing their arm, like so: ¯_(ツ)_/¯ because the backslash wasn’t itself escaped.

So, if you want to type a character that normally results in formatting, precede it with a blackslash.

*checks notes* results in checks notes instead of checks notes.

Edit: This comment was confusing to format. haha

Transcendant ,

Hey, thanks very much for this info! And yeah I’m sure it was not trivial to format haha

HobbitFoot ,

It is good in that it makes Mastodon more useful. People can use Mastodon instead of Twitter to see BBC tweets.

And karma isn’t a thing here, otherwise I just blew a lot of it on North Korea.

Transcendant ,

Although there’s not a general karma score on your profile, seeing a post heavily downvoted tends to make people disregard it… I assume it’s the intention, that or to make the user feel unhappy / harried and close their profile

HobbitFoot ,

Maybe, but we aren’t at the critical mass where downvotes posts and comments are routinely hidden. People will see downvoted content and interact with it.

You are also missing that the other site used karma as a way to judge if an account should be allowed to talk more. I had enough karma there so that I stopped getting the “you’re commenting too much” pause when commenting a lot. Some subs also used minimum karma points as a way to judge if someone was a troll or not. That doesn’t exist here.

OldFartPhil ,

I think it depends on what sort of content is posted. If it’s mostly promotional stuff some people may feel that it doesn’t fit the vibe of Mastodon. If it’s thought-provoking content (especially journalism) then it will be a win. Either way, having The BBC on Mastodon seems like a big deal, to me, and maybe it will induce other journalists to explore the fediverse.

kukkurovaca , to fediverse in The BBC on Mastodon: experimenting with distributed and decentralised social media
@kukkurovaca@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Unsurprisingly given its extremely high profile as a purveyor of transphobic coverage, many mastodon instances have greeted them with a firm block. (If this confuses folks who don’t pay attention to this sort of thing, just picture in your head if it was fox news.)

Captainvaqina , to worldnews in Twitter accused of bullying anti-hate campaigners

fReeeee speach! Unless it goes against Elon’s authoritarian alt-right bullshit.

Rayspekt , to worldnews in Afghanistan: Taliban burn ‘immoral’ musical instruments

I'm the Devil, I love metal
Check this riff, it's fucking tasty

I guess the Taliban watched Pick of Destiny yesterday and thought it was a documentary lol

Sterile_Technique , to worldnews in Afghanistan: Taliban burn ‘immoral’ musical instruments
@Sterile_Technique@kbin.social avatar

But like... why? Does their religion actually have some angst with music, or is this another one of those "god told me so in a dream!" kinda bullshit?

PokeCaptain ,
Sterile_Technique ,
@Sterile_Technique@kbin.social avatar

...well fuck, I didn't actually expect the former. This world would be so much better without that religious nonsense. -_-

gabe , to worldnews in Lori Vallow: Cult mum who killed children sentenced to life in prison

That entire case is just so deeply depressing

TheSaneWriter , to worldnews in Afghanistan: Taliban burn ‘immoral’ musical instruments
@TheSaneWriter@lemmy.thesanewriter.com avatar

Honest question, what do they do for fun? It seems like basically every Western recreational activity is banned and their jihad is over, so how do these people occupy the time?

player2 ,

The Taliban instead enjoy singsongs, which are chants (by men) without music, about jihad or this or that, you know.

www.voanews.com/a/…/7077659.html

Jig86 ,

One pastime involves racing logs down the river that are being floated down... some of em don't make it. Crazy kids.

gary_host_laptop , to worldnews in US presses Taliban on human rights at Doha talks
@gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml avatar

Capitalism: The Highest Stage of Hipocrisy

Iapar , to worldnews in Afghanistan: Taliban burn ‘immoral’ musical instruments

They should burn their asses then.

ndguardian , to worldnews in Afghanistan: Taliban burn ‘immoral’ musical instruments

I mean, I could have just offered myself up to be corrupted by these “immoral” instruments. If they didn’t want the instruments around, they could have let me take them.

Fixbeat ,

No way, you would be doing the devil’s work if you finger those instruments.

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