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Monument , to nostupidquestions in So is Israel just going to completely overtake Palestine?

That’s also highly valid, and not something I factor heavily into my thoughts about the future of U.S. support.

Shit. Huh. I gotta rethink that.

Monument , to asklemmy in What industry secret are you aware of that most people aren't?

Scary.

Monument , to news in Car dealerships in North America revert to pens and paper after cyberattacks on software provider

Oh, yeah. I just gave up on it. All my info got exposed in the recent AT&T hack, including my SS#, which is available as a data dump on the open web.

My credit is locked, I use a data removal service, and my fingers are crossed. As for the rest… Meh. I’m just gonna keep on swimming.

Monument , to asklemmy in What industry secret are you aware of that most people aren't?

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  • Monument , to asklemmy in What industry secret are you aware of that most people aren't?

    Ugh. Yup.

    I learned that after buying my house. My furnace is 3x what my house needs and is expected to be an expensive repair someday.

    Monument , (edited ) to asklemmy in What industry secret are you aware of that most people aren't?

    So you’re not describing the issue where internet connected EV chargers can be easily hacked, and potentially told to dump the charge of the connected vehicle’s battery on the grid en masse, causing overloads and transformer explosions.

    But a slow moving issue like that sounds like a frequency or voltage issue - something goes under or over enough and isn’t detected via monitoring, causing premature equipment degradation, and potential system collapse. Definitely a lot of expensive damage, though.
    (Basically, a stuxnet-style attack on the utility grid - and we’ve already seen evidence that SCADA/PLC’s can be hacked in the water supply system.)

    A destabilizing push, rather than a hit with a hammer.

    Monument , (edited ) to nostupidquestions in So is Israel just going to completely overtake Palestine?

    Support your claims.

    Edit: With like, actual sources.

    And I didn’t call you stupid. I insinuated that your motives were suspect and that you are dishonest. But I am beginning to think you lack the ability to actually make supportable claims or debate people - which would probably mean … eh. shrug

    Monument , to news in Car dealerships in North America revert to pens and paper after cyberattacks on software provider

    I got my oil changed a week and a half ago and they actually said - they couldn’t do certain things because of the cyberattack. As a result they couldn’t log it or print out paperwork or… something. For an oil change it wasn’t a big deal, but I didn’t even think about the rest of the dealership’s operations.

    Fortunately, their payment system is isolated, but it gave me pause before I swiped my card.

    Monument , to nostupidquestions in So is Israel just going to completely overtake Palestine?

    I don’t deny that. I really can’t wait for the transition away from petroleum.

    But … power, and the economy is power. Sigh. The U.S. gets billions for its oil.

    Monument , to nostupidquestions in So is Israel just going to completely overtake Palestine?

    Why are Jews settling Palestinian land in the first place?

    Maybe, after forcing them from their major cities, laying claim to the most fertile land in their country, and then refusing their right to assert their own statehood (and using a superpower to back them up in that), then spending 70 years depriving them of ever-increasing amounts of their country, and blockading imports (why blockade spices for traditional foods?!?), that the presence of anything taking more of their land in the open air prison they’ve been forced into to offer a ‘peace settlement’ is not welcome.

    What are you on? Is there no ability for inductive reasoning there, or are you hoping that for all your words, there’s no logic, facts, or grounding in reality?

    Monument , to nostupidquestions in So is Israel just going to completely overtake Palestine?

    Oooh. I attracted a 1-day old account that conveniently doesn’t know about U.S. statecraft toward the Middle East for the last 70 years, doesn’t know about the long history of arms transfers to Israel, doesn’t know about the Balfour Declaration, the Jewish terrorism against Britain and Palestine until Britain left the area, or the genocides that happened as soon as Britain stopped offering protection to the Palestinians. You conveniently seem to fail to understand geopolitics in any meaningful contexts.
    And then you “Source?” my (very well informed) opinions.

    lol. No. Don’t waste my time.

    Monument , to nostupidquestions in So is Israel just going to completely overtake Palestine?

    A bunch of folks without many rights, property, education, or jobs in a country where they are basically hostages is quite different than Iran.

    Monument , (edited ) to nostupidquestions in So is Israel just going to completely overtake Palestine?

    But after 30 years of lack of movement, this situation offers pretext for war without restraint. I don’t believe they plan to stop.

    They don’t have to kill each person to achieve their aims. Sometimes just making sure the water is undrinkable is enough to kill tens of thousands or force many times that number to leave and never return.
    2 Days Ago: Israeli strike kills Gaza workers trying to restore drinking water – The National.

    Monument , to nostupidquestions in So is Israel just going to completely overtake Palestine?

    Yeah - it’s about regional control, and defensive positions.

    This comment is sort of a continuation of this one, but not exactly. (Sorry about the link to my instance, I’m new and don’t know how to do the thing.)

    The U.S. has long needed a bully in the area to prevent the Middle East from being too unified, so the west can get relatively inexpensive access to its oil.

    The state of play right now is that the U.S. actually produces enough petroleum for its own needs, but our western allies do not, and supplying them with enough oil will raise the cost to an unacceptable level/a level where they’ll have to channel money to the Middle East (which hates the U.S. for its meddling, or to Russia, which also hates the U.S.)

    In about 10-15 years, technology and renewables will advance to a point where oil demand is going to have decreased to the point where the U.S. can supply all of its needs and those of its western allies without jacking the price up.

    That means the U.S. won’t need a bully. But it will mean that the U.S. will cut funding to Israel, and more or less stop coming to their defense. Israel’s plan is to push out every non-Jew, using Zionism as an excuse for awful statecraft, and they’re going to push their borders to easily defensible geographic areas.
    Once they do that, they’re going to basically become North Korea of the Middle East - armed to the teeth and hard to get into. Because if they don’t, everyone they’ve been bullying for the past hundred years (yes, this started before the declaration of statehood), is going to wipe them from the map - potentially leading to them launching the nukes they keep pretending they don’t have, so they don’t have to undergo international monitoring.

    Assuming, of course, the plot by other countries to destabilize the U.S. fails and U.S. is still major player by the time Israel’s plan is accomplished. If the destabilization effort succeeds, we may see a full scale war against Israel before their aims are achieved.

    That’s my take on it, anyway. They won’t stop because they don’t think they can stop, due to how horrible they’ve been. (At the behest of the U.S., who will begin dropping them once their usefulness has ended.)

    Monument , to nostupidquestions in So is Israel just going to completely overtake Palestine?

    They control the borders and they are systematically destroying infrastructure while stealing the land to be ‘settled’ by right wing Israelis. (They done let liberal folk become settlers.)

    The right wingers have no issue with being bad neighbors or otherwise murdering Palestinians. And they are backed up by the military. Any resistance is returned 10-fold, with an associated grab for land.

    If a cease fire can be forged, the control of the border will mean that the they will continue their existing blockade on imports of building materials such as cement, so new infrastructure cannot be built. They are even using construction equipment to remove or bury rubble, so it cannot be repurposed/recycled.

    The plan is to do to Gaza what they have already done to the West Bank. Turn it into fragmented enclaves that lack access to basic resources. It’s clear they even want to block total access to the beach, to prevent fishing for food. It’s why they are literally selling the land that is currently being bombed. They want to make it impossible to live there if you’re Palestinian. They want everyone that isn’t part of their theocracy to die off, or emigrate.


    Not related, but totally related.
    I’ve watched these interviews with white supremacists in the U.S. who talk/fantasize about the creation of a ‘white’ ethnostate. They always talk about how there will be a nonviolent transition to this, saying that people who don’t match their racial parameters will be relocated to places outside of the state, or those who won’t have children will be allowed to live out their lives, etc. And that’s widely regarded with a ‘sure buddy’ and you know they’re full of crap. People don’t want to move away from their homes. They don’t want to go where they don’t know anyone. They don’t want to lose their jobs, their savings, all their stuff, the land they own and the effort they’ve pored into their home and land or the resources their home/land offers them.

    But the situation in Palestine is literally that. People are ‘voluntarily’ relocating (after their homes, jobs, neighborhoods, and often, families) have been blown up by bombs. Or they’re staying and living out the rest of their lives - until they’re shot or a bomb goes off, or they die from malnutrition, thirst, or contaminated water. Hm.
    I suppose it’s (relatively) nonviolent to the aggressor.

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