I cant find much information about it. Is it possible to create an instance which will be part of a server, like lemmy.ml. Or do I have to run a server to be able to create a sub inside lemmy.ml(or any other). Thanks
You can think of instance and server as the same thing. An instance of lemmy runs on a server.
You don’t have to run an instance to create a community (sub), but I believe some instances limit who can create communities.
If you run your own instance, you could do whatever you please with it. When you create a community on it, other federated instances can browse to it via [email protected]
Here are the instructions for hosting your own instance
So basically 24 hours after posting, there is almost no contributions coming in, and after another 24h, it’s nearly impossible to see anybody chipping in to the subject in question. Everything goes silent, almost as if it didn’t matter anymore.
Within Lemmy, I think active is most used as it’s the current default for most instances. I’m not sure how it’s implemented, but based off my observations, I suspect it has some massive drop off after 2 days, because I regularly see posts up to 2 days old and never any older.
Though OP mentions just one day and I don’t have a good explanation for that. Personally, I don’t like to comment on anything older than a day and often self censor accordingly. I consider “within the last day” to be the sweet spot for engagement. Beyond that, it often doesn’t feel worth my time to comment because fewer people will see it and be able to respond.
I’m impatiently awaiting a “best” algorithm and will switch to it as soon as it’s available. I dislike literally all the sorting algorithm choices. I just dislike active the least because comments are what I’m here for. Sure would be nice to see smaller subs too, though.
Isn’t Hexbear the ex-ChapoTrapHouse subreddit that started their own sub with blackjack and hookers?
I.e. they created (and, importantly, modified) their own Lemmy instance. And, supposedly, they’re working to fix what they broke, so they can rejoin with the larger fediverse without losing their content?
So before we wax paranoid about the intentions of lemmyworld admins, shouldn’t we consider that this might just be a temporary measure to prevent technical issues while they bring their fixes into production?
Let’s just wait until LW admins make their announcement before we pass judgement. I fully agree there is no political reason to defederate from them. I don’t know if their community is problematic but everything I’ve heard would suggest otherwise. And I do not know the timeframe or technical details of their supposed plan to refederate. So again, while I agree with you, I think perhaps it is a bit early for speeches.
Alternately make non-troll leftists join a non-troll instance if they want to just go out into the wider Fediverse without the stigma. Once they federate they won’t have to be on the CTH-successor instance, they’re choosing to be there. Like I said in my other reply to you, I don’t find the lemmygrad users nearly as trollish as CTH was. It’s not the ideology that’s the problem, it’s the trolling, and they’re pre-announcing they won’t do anything to curb trolling by their users.
CTH wasn’t just a sub that happened to have some users who also trolled, they frequently organized and bragged about trolling and brigading there. And while mods need to be ready to ban individual trolls, it’s also a volunteer activity and not dealing with a rotating cast of trolls or massive brigades could be worth shutting out some posters who wouldn’t be a problem themselves. I don’t think it’s an unreasonable stance to say “wait and see if it’s a problem”, but I also don’t think it’s an unreasonable stance to say “we know what’s likely going to happen, we’re not robots who have to pretend we were born yesterday”.
I have tried all the things! And I recently saw that article you’re referencing.
In my own experience, I haven’t seen one single person being rude or mean or blowing off newcomers. I suspect the bar to entry is slightly higher because you have to get your head around how the fediverse works, so the types of people coming here trend more patient. It’s also a slower pace here, which can be good or bad depending on what you like.
The nicest feature for my use is that you can follow just about anyone anywhere. On kbin especially. There you can follow users from any Lemmy instance, or an entire instance, as well as users at Mastodon. The downside is that it can be a little tricky at first to figure out how to follow someone who’s on another instance. It’s not hard, but it’s something new if you’re coming from a single entity site like Twitter.
It’s also no big deal to make an account on multiple instances if you’re not sure where to go. My approach with all of them was to browse the local server (e.g., lemmy.world, mastodon.social) rather than the federated feed. The local feed gives you an idea of who’s on that instance, what topics come up a lot, how the users act, etc. I’d also check out the “about” section. That will show you who the moderators are and what their focus and approach is. Some are laissez-faire and others are much more curated, so there’s something for everyone.
The neat thing about this system is that you can find more niche instances if you have a particular interest – gaming, software development, climate, science, memes, etc. You can make that your main instance and still see everything going on across all instances. That helps eliminate a lot of FOMO.
I was never on Twitter and not on most social media except Reddit, which I thought I’d miss. But I’ve enjoyed using Mastodon, Firefish, and Lemmy/kbin a lot. It’s a smaller group but still plenty to see and lots of interesting people and topics. Everyone has been very nice, but it’s easy to mute or block people or subs that you’re not interested in. After that you won’t see them in your feed at all.
Yes, you can block communities. Instances are a little more complicated since that’s defederation and happens at the instance level, but since you won’t see posts from communities you aren’t subbed to that’s less of an issue.
Not sure if Lemmy is the same, but my understanding of the fediverse structure was that if someone subbed to a magazine/community on another instance then it would show up in All for everyone logged into the same instance. On kbin I have never needed to sub to anything on lemmy.world or beehaw or whatever because someone else subbed to it first and it just shows up on my All feed.
A mild example of blocking an instance would be if there was one that was entirely in a language I don't know then I have the option to block the instance instead of playing whack a mole with each magazine/community to hide the content that I can't read.
I have seen posts from instances with communities I'm not subbed to on the kbin "All" list because someone else on the same kbin server subbed to it. It makes discovering new communities very easy since I don't need to do all the leg work on my own.
I moved to a smaller instance today. One thing that I’ve noticed that isn’t the same, is the Top All Time is showing different posts and vote counts on certain subs. I think I’ve noticed it only happens in the subs that I’ve interacted from the small instance for the first time. Or, if someone from my small instance interacted with it last week, there will be 7 days of history, but nothing beyond that. IDK if that’s true or not, just what I’ve observed today.
I’ve subscribed to all the same communities as when I was on lemmy.world, but my feed seems slower and quieter.
Lemm.ee, sh.itjust.works both have more that 2k users, sopuli.xyz, reddthat.com has 600 users. With this amount of monthly active users, your needs for All are covered (most of the active communities will at least have one subscriber on your instance) except if you have very niche subs, which you would probably subscribe to by yourself.
To move somewhere else doesn’t mean to lose your subscriptions in the context of lemmy. What he means is if your main account on lemmy.world and it’s down, you won’t be able to (temporarily) access both your account(=your subs) and lemmy.world’s communities, while if your account on smaller (more stable) instance, it would only affect you by losing access to lemmy.world’s communities, but other subbed communities would still work/appear in your feed.
They don’t have to subscribe, but somebody has to have searched specifically for that community, so kinda yes.
People here promote scripts and bots so that an instance gets automatically subbed to new communities - which ok, but then which small instances really want to mirror the whole Fediverse? Most will run out of hard drive space, and we’re back at square one.
was gonna point out the weird mishmash of communities in the trending box. idk who’s subbing to the islamic communities, certainly not many people from this instance.
also, sorry for rukbut_dev being there. I would prefer that I could test @rukbut in private but there’s no setting to take communities private on lemmy. I could’ve also spun a private instance but that’s a lot of hassle I’d rather not have. nothing like testing in production!
Yo so lemmy.world isn’t run by tankies? If it is could y’all just ban me now so I don’t invest too much in the instance pls? I got kind of sick of the constant cycle of disappointment seeing how many supposedly leftist subs were taken over and ruined by them on reddit.
So I’m on both and I work in tech. I’m technically capable, e.g. I verified my Mastodon account with my website. Neither Mastodon not Lemmy is anywhere near ready for non technical users.
Mastodon
Hell of a job picking an instance. Confusing to log in because I have to remember the instance not the service. Instance is all local stuff, global stuff is by default garbage.
I signed up to Mastodon a few months back. Most of the people I followed on Twitter didn’t. Not surprising really given how confusing and complicated it is. I chose a server because someone I followed recommended it. I found most people posting less and less frequently, apart from the instance admin, they seemed to post books worth every singled day and I had to mute them. Then it got really quiet and I saw something about the server admin stepping down. At which point I learned that due to some ridiculous drama involving something the admin of my mastodon instance apparently said that some other instance admin didn’t like, the whole instance/domain was ‘silenced’. In other words ‘the hell with you’ to me because of something I wasn’t even aware of, let alone involved with. Absolutely childish that something like that can even happen, and even better, it seems people often can’t figure out how to make it 'un-happen’.
None of this covers mobile app issues
At this point mastodon has failed as an alternative to Twitter for me. There’s about 3 non-twitter-repost-bot posters left in my feed, all either second rate or also posting the same on twitter.
Lemmy
A bit better than Mastodon but comparable issues with picking an instance. Dscoverability is slightly better because I can search for topics. I’ve had to create a login on a second instance because my first pick, and then my second pick, both:
De-Federated a number of other instances
Were de-federated but a number of other instances
Have been suffering repeated uptime issues due to DDOS
So now I’m on my 3rd Lemmy login and I spent half an hour yesterday using someone’s python script to back up my subs and resubscribe with my next account…
None of this covers mobile app issues
Overall
It’s close, really close, and it could work but it’s tough on Lemmy and missing on Mastodon
Want help? I could write you a tool if you want, which would list your subs on all instances and show any differences. Literally can be done within a day.
I’m not super familiar with torrenting protocols, but would have naively assumed that the very fact that subs have a single source of truth (e.g. [email protected] is hosted on lemmy.world in its entirety, and then only cached on other lemmy instances) would be enough?
I guess we’d need to federate the sub list, we wouldn’t want a central source of truth for that, but that bit isn’t any different to what we have currently AFAIK
I understand that, but the “dubious” comment would still appear in the comment thread on both instances then, and that can turn into a problem. How do you deal with it?
Just to make an example: I moderate a community about Breath of the Wild, where content about the sequel Tears of the Kingdom are discouraged so that people who don’t own that game yet won’t have to worry about spoilers. There are also communities about both games, or even just the sequel, where “spoilers” simply aren’t an issue. Now imagine someone makes a post that appears in both communities, and the comment section contains content related to the sequel. How would you deal with it?
Remove the comments about the sequel because the BotW community doesn’t allow spoilers? That’s a surefire way to piss off anyone subscribed to the TotK community, because they were simply discussing content they’re subscribed to and won’t understand what they did wrong or why their comments keep disappearing.
Let the comments stay because the TotK community allows them? That’s a surefire way to piss off people subscribed to the BotW sub, as they were promised a spoiler-free browsing experience and now read about stuff they didnt want to read about. You cannot un-see spoilers, so “just deal with it” isn’t an option.
Make it so that those comments are only displayed in the TotK community but not in the BotW community? That’s what we have right now - separate comment sections for each community. If you merge the comment sections and then retroactively have to sort out which comments are or are not displayed in the other sub, it will be an unneccessary extra workload for the mods as you can barely automate such a thing. And you would have to check every comment again as soon as someone makes a crosspost to a third, fourth, fifth community, as this would add extra rules that would make comments that were formerly comepletely fine suddenly not okay anymore.
Now this is an example where the issue are “just” gameplay spoilers, so it’s not exactly the end of the world. But once this happens to communities with different rulesets about politics, religion, NSFW content, things that are illegal in one country but not the other, and similar highly explosive topics, it will turn into a moderation nightmare to keep the comment section fair for everyone.
Is there a readily available tool that can export/import community subs? I have two accounts on different instances but would like them to have to same subscriptions
Yeah it was a bit annoying at first, but I just created a “all” user that just subbed to everything (well not everything, shout-out to all the communities that speak another language). I don’t recall exact links but if you just search for “all bot Lemmy” there are some stuff people have made which will just auto join basically all communities in an instance
This is a semi serious question - do people not realize that you can follow across instances and it makes literally no difference?
This is the one reason why some of us were sort of hoping that Threads would federate. Because the celebs and other normies are likely to gravitate there, and there are a few that some of us would still like to follow/interact with.
If anything, this is my criticism against the way that Lemmy handles this. For example, my previous reddit habit was to follow a bunch of subs for TV shows that I watched. So last night when I was watching ST: Strange New Worlds, I really didn’t enjoy the experience of digging through 10 communities that each had the episode posts with the same 15 comments, and the occasional new thought. This isn’t even a criticism of the posters, if you came to the comments there would be some things that would be wild not to call out. I think ultimately I’d almost rather see the federation model for reddit-like services move down in the stack, and federate the communities rather than the whole instance. EG: there is a major ST collective community assimilating the smaller ones and becoming greater than the sum of their parts. Of course, this is also probably partially just because Lemmy/Kbin are still in their infancy, and I have a feeling that as time goes, things are more or less going to centralize in this way anyway, in the same way you could have multiple subs on reddit, but there was usually 1-2 big ones at most.
This isn’t a problem for mastodon, because when someone like Jeri Ryan joins, it doesn’t matter on what instance, I can still follow her in one place, see who she follows and follows her for other like-minded individuals, see all of her posts and re-posts, etc. What instance you’re on makes very little difference after the first five minutes or so and you’re acquainted with how it works.
I’ll try to explain it from what I know/remember. fmhy.ml and fmhy.tk were backup mirrors of the fmhy wiki, though the UI on both of them wasn’t great. fmhy.pages.dev is the new wiki with a theme by the weeb wiki!
They had those three sites as backup wikis, fmhy.ml got a facelift at some point so that UI is better, whereas fmhy.tk remained the same. Both fmhy.ml and fmhy.tk were taken down around the same time. fmhy.net was bought by the people behind fmhy, page looked like this for a while, then the fmhy.ml wiki was restored on fmhy.net. Now there’s two backup wikis!
pages.dev is a domain owned by cloudflare, it’s used to host the free cloudflare pages - you can’t host a lemmy instance through that domain. fmhy.pages.dev is the newer wiki hosted on cloudflare pages. fmhy.net is owned by the people behind fmhy, they can add sub-domains to point to the Lemmy instance as it’s owned by them as of now.
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I cant find much information about it. Is it possible to create an instance which will be part of a server, like lemmy.ml. Or do I have to run a server to be able to create a sub inside lemmy.ml(or any other). Thanks
Why most posts (so far as I can tell) have very short lifespan tendency?
So basically 24 hours after posting, there is almost no contributions coming in, and after another 24h, it’s nearly impossible to see anybody chipping in to the subject in question. Everything goes silent, almost as if it didn’t matter anymore.
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