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nekandro ,

People really underestimate the impact of sonar on marine life. Hell, people really underestimate the impact of sonar, period. Active sonar operates at 300dB. For reference, 85dB can damage human hearing, and 300dB is 21 orders of magnitude greater than that.

Crikeste ,

I wish people cared more about this stuff.

HowMany ,

U.S. to Philippines - “hold my beer”.

rando895 ,

Ahh yes, the bastion of freedom is policing someone else’s waters. It’s a good thing too. Can you imagine if the American government, with their senile president, Cheetos future president, and general lack of empathy for anything other than money and control, allowed such a thing as a sovereign nation to exist outside of their boot? Nonsense

card797 ,

You mean like the sovereign waters of the Phillipines? Oh, I guess since it has China in the name the entire body of water belongs to the Chinese.

Bartsbigbugbag ,

There is historical record in the west going back to at least WWII acknowledging that area as Chinese territorial waters. Just because you only follow news cycles while they’re hot, doesn’t mean all of history prior to now stops existing.

nekandro ,

They’re just Japanese war crime apologists. You get used to them.

They’re the same people who’ll say that only Jews suffered from the Holocaust and completely ignored the sacrifices of the Soviets and the Romani people (mostly because they were freed from those camps by the Red Army in the East and the West never saw it). They’re the same people who’ll say that US trade with Japan in support of Japan’s massacres in China was just business. They’re the same people who’ll claim that Japan did nothing wrong until Pearl Harbour.

They are delusional, and they’re not worth your time.

rando895 ,

Still worth stating facts though. Someone pursuing posts might be swayed by talking points if there isn’t a dissenting voice.

card797 ,

Ad hominem. By that argument the PRC should give back the land that is rightfully ROC territory.

nekandro ,

And now we have ROC massacre apologists. The KMT government killed and imprisoned hundreds of thousands of communists in the post-WW2 civil war period. During WW2, the KMT consistently prioritized the threat of Mao’s armies over the threat of the Japanese, stalling pan-Chinese efforts to fight back against the Japanese and inadvertently leading to hundreds of thousands more dead, raped, or worse.

card797 ,

So you will then ignore the 40-80 million who were killed or died from Mao’s policies? Give it a rest. There are ongoing genocides in China and Gaza that are more pressing.

HowMany ,

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    rando895 ,

    I’m pro worker. If you make a living by selling your labour, Sweet. Let’s overthrow the arseholes ruining the world.

    I can also stand behind good, worker focused policy, and anything that can lead to an end of imperialism and colonialism/neo colonialism.

    So by definition I am against everything the American government and its institutions stand for. Which is probably a bit jarring to folks.

    I realize you weren’t really asking me, but I think it’s important to still respond to folks who have the political wherewithal of an old man who shouldn’t be paraded around in public, let alone given nuclear codes.

    You don’t need to simp for a country, you can be your own person and want a better world for people while recognizing that the wealth gap is a power gap, related to the ownership of businesses, real estate, etc. And that the only way to experience true freedom is to over turn that power structure and fight for the freedom of everyone.

    Why is it that two senile old men are lined up to be the next president of the USA? Are they really the best? Why is it that all their friends are wealthy and get wealthier during their time in office? Does what you think have any impact on policy? Or do you still have to fight at every turn to prevent catastrophe? Why are so many people working so many jobs with so little pay or benefits compared to any other country? Do Americans just absolutely suck as people and are as productive as ranch dressing? I don’t think so. The deck is stacked against you. That is to say, the wealthy designed and control the system in which you and everyone else exists. Of course it will work for them and not you. That’s why as soon as the power structure is threatened, they start assassinating people. (MLK, tried Castro a bunch of times, Malcolm X, etc.)

    Or lol China Russia beep Boop

    interdimensionalmeme ,

    South China sea is international waters. Meaning it is the hegemonic power’s water. The nine dash lineis chinese authotarian gas lighting. They are being bullies again. This is all headed for war because the human forest fire of neoliberalism has consumed the foundation of all the powers.

    yogthos ,
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    ms_lane ,

    oh no… anyway.

    ironsoap ,

    So don’t bring your submarines into the area. Brilliant!

    freagle ,

    You mean the area off the coast of mainland China?

    huf ,

    the US has a pacific coast, this is in the pacific, therefore this is off the coast of the US, so what the fuck are the chinese even doing there? why did they decide to put their country right in the US’s backyard? are they mental?

    Reddfugee42 ,

    Downvoted by commies

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