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Octospider ,

We owe them nothing. They are trying to cheat the system. People who jump through the hoops to get their PR should be the most insulted.

velox_vulnus OP ,

Well, they’ve been ‘scammed’ by the scumbags who sold them false dreams. Most of these folks are in huge debt, and they’re fucked either way - they’ll end up jobless in India, or exploited by wage-slavers. It’s just that being in Canada gives them a hopelessly small chance to escape poverty.

D61 ,

In what way are these Indian students trying to cheat the system?

Seems like the issue is that the rules are in the process of being changed (or are changed?) after these students spent however many years going to to school before the rules changed.

Work in these job sectors? You’re valuable (until the next rule change that will retroactively label you as “disposable labor”).

Work in those job sectors? You’re disposable labor whose use is no longer needed, here’s your deportation papers (until the next rule change that will retroactively label you as “valued labor”).

psvrh ,
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This is rather like cattle protesting for faster processing times at the abbatoir.

Canada is basically strip-mining south Asian students for every cent of value as a way to avoid making hard political decisions about taxing the rich.

ikidd ,
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Foreign tuition isn’t a drop in the bucket toward federal expenses.

Evkob ,
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It’s not about the tuition (although most of our universities are effectively subsidized by foreign students paying higher tuition fees), it’s about having an easily exploitable labour force while they’re here studying. Less familiarity with labour laws and less protections than a citizen make for attractive wage slaves.

Of course, the solution isn’t tightening immigration, but the actual solutions might make the wealthy accumulate riches at a slightly slower pace, therefore it is unimaginable.

SkyNTP ,

I get it, we don’t need billionaires in our society. That aside, what makes you think this is intentional exploitation?

gramie ,

It’s not just that we have billionaires, is that they are extracting most of the value out of our economy, and that proportion is only increasing. They have rigged the system in their favor, and it is working perfectly (for them).

the richest 0.02% of Canadians now possess more wealth than the bottom 80%

Is it intentional exploitation? Well, it could just be a coincidence that the influx of international students has helped keep wages down and put an almost unbearable pressure on rental housing, much of which is owned by investment corporations. It might be helpful to look at who is funding the lobbyists walking the quarters of power in our provincial and National capitals.

emergencyfood ,

Indian students studying in Canada might hurt India (it’s complicated), but it definitely benefits the students.

CanadaPlus , (edited )

It depends on what they study. I know of some that come for agriculture-related degrees which are just worthless in a totally different climate. “Canada educated” comes with a lot of prestige back home, though, and they have the money, so they come anyway.

emergencyfood ,

True to an extent - the methods don’t change all that much. The same is true for medicine and architecture. But I’m guessing the vast majority are in engineering, which is more or less universal.

CanadaPlus ,

Actually, the ones the government has cracked down on most are business degrees. They’re the cheapest to deliver so they’ve been used as an (often needed) cash cow by educational institutions. That’s probably more useful than learning the frost tolerance of a crop you don’t even grow at home, or treatment of temperate pests, but it’s not engineering.

emergencyfood ,

I see. That makes a lot of sense. India has a small number of IIMs (national business universities), so they are very hard to get into. And unlike most other government unis, they are also very expensive (can’t have the peons getting uppity). So many Indian parents with more money than sense send their children to degree mills in other countries that no one in the host country has even heard of.

CanadaPlus ,

Yep. That’s the situation here I think.

This is the first anti-immigrant policy of any kind Canada’s put in place for a long time, and people are rightfully worried because of that. The thing is, we just have an absolutely insane housing shortage, and so the government has to be seen shoring up immigration somehow, or it will be vulnerable in the upcoming election.

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