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PanArab ,
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Everything we were told Trump will do, Biden is doing. Including cutting financial support to the UNRWA.

Moira_Mayhem ,

Until we drop First Past the Post voting for Ranked Choice, we will never be free of the regressive portions of the democratic party.

TO BE CLEAR: This isn’t a ‘both sides’ argument. Only one party tried to overthrow a legal election by force.

That said, voting blue is only necessary because we realistically have no other choice under our current voting structure.

zephyreks ,

This is very much US-internal news.

PanArab ,
@PanArab@lemmy.ml avatar

US news is World News for the rest of the world

InLikeClint ,
@InLikeClint@kbin.social avatar

What do you expect with a one week old account? Fascist twats

OprahsedCreature ,

Fascist

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gardylou ,

They weren’t denied because they were wearing a hijab, they were denied because they had previously disrupted events. The headline should clarify or at least not bait the idea that they are targeting them because they are Muslim, which isn’t true.

Trudge ,
@Trudge@lemmygrad.ml avatar

This is the future if Trump becomes the president.

themeatbridge ,

FWIW that video is heavily edited, and the campaign released a statement that a group, including those women, were refused entry because they were disruptive at previous events.

Now, I think Kamala and Biden deserve the protests, and they should be doing something, anything, to end the genocide in Gaza.

But it’s a political rally. If you protest at one of these, they’re not going to let you into the next one. It has nothing to do with your religious headwear or islamophobia or sexism or terrorism. Claiming discrimination when there isn’t any is disingenuous and counterproductive. It lends credence to the people who dismiss legitimate complaints of discrimination.

Maeve ,

Ah, should’ve stuck to “free special zones” or entered nonsense they’re calling it now.

quindraco ,

Don’t forget, they alleged racism, not just any discrimination. They equated Islam with a race. I wonder what skin color they assume all muslims have.

https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/0b57be10-4eea-4f7b-93ef-b1f32cb147f3.jpeg

LostWon ,

Islamophobia is a type of racism. Brown people who aren’t even muslim (like Sikhs) often get caught up in it, precisely because the ignorance that fuels it is based in racism.

So we argue that “Islamophobia is rooted in racism and is a type of racism that targets expressions of Muslimness or perceived Muslimness”

theguardian.com/…/islamophobia-racism-definition-…

gregorum , (edited )

Only if you open up the definition of “racism” to include any type of discrimination. While you raise a good point that religious discrimination against Muslims often results is racist discrimination against both middle-eastern and south asian peoples (sometimes both), the overlap in the type of discrimination should result in more education, not a muddling of terms— although it is understandable.

And, yes, while we should be more focused on the effects of these discriminatory behaviors and combating them, one type of ignorance shouldn’t excuse another.

IMO, I don’t think it’s helpful to enable these ignorances by enabling them by furthering their use. The terms “racism” and “religious intolerance” have distinct and discrete definitions.

edit: grammar and spelling

LostWon ,

The reason it seems “muddled” to you is likely because bigotry itself is based in ignorance.

Many people just accept and absorb what they’ve heard or seen in cartoons and popular media while growing up, lumping different groups of people together based on oversimplifications and misrepresentations of who they are. The assumptions on which people base their Islamophobia are quite racist, conflating Arab identity (which people think they know by a person’s appearance based on racist stereotypes) with Islam. The point is to be able to identify the bigotry for what it is.

If you try to define a form bigotry by the actual reality it’s misrepresenting, you’ll miss the bigotry itself.

gregorum , (edited )

I’m acknowledging that bigotry is based on ignorance. That was my whole point, which you artlessly missed. I’m just not trying to enable that ignorance by playing into it. So, instead of using that as a cudgel against an ally like me who is just trying to clarify a couple of distinct terms, maybe focus your rage on those who would actually do you harm.

Needlessly attacking your friends is a pretty silly way to behave.

LostWon ,

All I did was point out facts and perspectives you seem to have missed. I thought we were having a constructive conversation in good faith, and was giving you the benefit of the doubt. I’m sorry to see that wasn’t the case.

andrew_bidlaw ,

Yep. Some problems do indeed intersect sometimes and can as well occur separately: …wikipedia.org/…/Violence_against_Muslims_in_inde…

It’s worth looking at these sorts of problems from different angles.

themeatbridge ,

I don’t think that’s a quibble worth discussing. Bigots aren’t that granular. Their reasoning is not that specific.

Lemjukes ,

Bigots aren’t that smart ftfw

themeatbridge ,

Bigots can be smart. Don’t underestimate your opponent. Being ignorant and feigning ignorance for political power are two different versions of bigotry.

OprahsedCreature ,

How do you tell that the video is heavily edited?

themeatbridge ,

I watched the version in the article.

Vaggumon ,
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Been a lot of going backwards as of late.

linkshandig ,

Looks like we’re going back to the widely accepted Islamophobia from the early 2000s. We have learned nothing.

lovemarks OP ,

Did we ever leave those days?

forgotmylastusername ,

We forgot for a while because the zeitgeist went back to the geopolitics of “Russia and China bad”.

watson387 ,
@watson387@sopuli.xyz avatar

I hear you. Shit is fucked up.

HotDogFingies ,
@HotDogFingies@kbin.social avatar

https://youtu.be/zPex3SwtCSs?si=rvadQ95GobAyR3ch

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