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Israel bombed Beirut with a Drone, targeting a Hamas official and killing 4-5 others

This is a major escalation that could greatly expand the war and drag hezbollah deeper into the war, which was already involved in skirmishes with Israel in Lebanese regions that Israel occupies.

Note: the verbiage of the article is minimizing the focus on Israel, and they spend half the article justifying the attack as “not an attack on Israel” an effort to minimize how much of an escalation this is.

PanArab ,
@PanArab@lemmy.ml avatar

Does Israel have a long term strategy other than “kill them all”? Is there any point where they want to coexist with us?

No need to answer. Studying the history of colonialism and ethnic cleansing in North America and Australia provides us with a clue to what they would do if they could.

cyclohexane OP ,

I think Israel lives on its people considering Arabs their enemy. It makes them tolerate a lot more from their government that they otherwise wouldn’t.

I think they rather suffocate Palestinians slowly rather than end them all at once.

Burstar ,
@Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Sounds like someone doesn’t like ‘finding out’ as much as they thought they would.

PanArab ,
@PanArab@lemmy.ml avatar

Nothing justifies war crimes but this is exactly what we expected from Israel. Anyone who knows it’s true self expected this. The Palestinian resistance was betting on it expanding to a regional conflict.

Could Israel Carry Out Another Nakba?

Expulsionist sentiment is common in Israeli society and politics. To ignore the warning signs is to abdicate responsibility.

April 19, 2023

jewishcurrents.org/could-israel-carry-out-another…

The mistake was [some of us Arabs] assuming they’d ever change if we made peace with them.

Burstar ,
@Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It might have something to do with your flawed idea of what ‘make peace’ means.

ShimmeringKoi ,
@ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net avatar

You’ll like it even less

mofongo ,

Why does every second comment get deleted by a moderator??

maccentric ,

How can you see deleted comments?

mofongo ,

I use Memmy and I am on a different instance

brain_in_a_box ,

This place gets a lot of racist and reactionary content, which is against the rules.

Immersive_Matthew ,

Maybe this is the beginning of the Great Filter.

lntl ,

How is this different than Russia/Ukraine?

Alaskaball ,
@Alaskaball@hexbear.net avatar

Because it’s involving different countries other than Russia and the Ukraine?

MrSpArkle ,

If only this were the only type of military action Israel would pursue.

Invasions are pointless when dealing with terrorists, and Israel knows this. That they are capable of successfully assassinating targets but still persist in bombing the shit out of Gaza killing countless civilians shows that their government needs to be tried for war crimes.

cyclohexane OP ,

If only this were the only type of military action Israel would pursue.

I see what you’re saying, but provoking a neighboring country into expanding the war is hardly something to celebrate.

MrSpArkle ,

To be honest I would celebrate a Hamas leader falling out of a window in Qatar too. Terrorists don’t operate in a traditional war theatre, it is what it is.

Lebanon main govt will recognize the game and let it be. Hezbollah will be upset and launch the same rockets they were going to launch anyway.

I vaguely recall there was some other point to touch on regarding Israel govt being atrocious, but my comment was deleted by a mod or admin.

I didn’t notice I was making conversation on a lemmy.ml post, my mistake, take care. Won’t make the same mistake again.

cyclohexane OP ,

Lebanon main govt will recognize the game and let it be. Hezbollah will be upset and launch the same rockets they were going to launch anyway.

This is the optimistic output, and I hope that’s what happens. But this is a major escalation from Israel, aiming to provoke hezbollah. It would not be any surprising if Hezbollah escalates back accordingly.

Israel does not gain from this assassination in the way you think. Hamas’ effectiveness is not reduced one bit and Israel knows it. Their only goal is to escalate with Hezbollah, and justify expanding their attacks into Lebanon.

I just hope that Hezbollah makes a calculated response that does not give Israel the pretext they’re looking for. So far, hezbollah has only attacked Israel in Lebanese territory, not Palestinian. Attacking Israel in Palestine would be a significant escalation but also an appropriate response.

bartolomeo ,
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How would Hezbollah attack Israel in Palestine? By marching through Israel all the way to WB or Gaza?

cyclohexane OP ,

They don’t have to go that far. They can target Israel in occupied Akka (the occupiers call it Acre).

bartolomeo ,
@bartolomeo@suppo.fi avatar

Thanks, I had never heard of that city.

In 1947, Acre, as part of Mandatory Palestine, had a population of 13,560, of which 10,930 were Muslim and 2,490 were Christian.

Israel’s Carmeli forces attacked on May 16 and, after an ultimatum was delivered that, unless the inhabitants surrendered, ‘we will destroy you to the last man and utterly,’[48] the town notables signed an instrument of surrender on the night between 17–18 May 1948.

bartolomeo ,
@bartolomeo@suppo.fi avatar

Before the 1948 Arab-Israeli War broke out, the Carmeli Brigade’s 21 Battalion commander had repeatedly damaged the Al-Kabri aqueduct that furnished Acre with water, and when Arab repairs managed to restore water supply, then resorted to pouring flasks of typhoid and dysentery bacteria into the aqueduct, mas part of a biological warfare programme. At some time in late April or early May 1948, - Jewish forces had cut the town’s electricity supply responsible for pumping water - a typhoid epidemic broke out. Israeli officials later credited the facility with which they conquered the town in part to the effects of the demoralization induced by the epidemic.[47]

A_Chilean_Cyborg ,
@A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl avatar

Awful.

Actuali ,

With the constant attacks from Lebanon into Israel and Lebanon sheltering hamas and hezbollah terrorists is there any benefit in not escalating?

cyclohexane OP ,

With the constant attacks from Lebanon into Israel and Lebanon sheltering hamas and hezbollah terrorists is there any benefit in not escalating?

Lebanon and hezbollah did not attack Israel in occupied Palestine. They have only attacked them in Lebanon territory that Israel occupies, your framing is misinformation and incorrect.

octobob ,

Hezbollah has shot missiles into Israel territory frequently and that’s a good thing. Since October 7th they have shot at precise military targets in relation to border skirmishes.

Senior Hamas leadership is a separate entity from the al-Qassam Brigades, the armed wing of Hamas, who does have authority to take action without authorization from Hamas (and does frequently). Which is why the escalation and assassination is a bit puzzling, but I do feel Hezbollah being brought into the conflict as a much stronger force is a good thing if it means the destruction of the occupation and genocide being committed by Israel.

cyclohexane OP ,

Those borders you’re speaking of at borders between hezbollah-controlled Lebanon and Israeli-controlled Lebanon. They’re Lebanese regions not Palestinian.

Not that I would condemn attacking the Israeli military in Israel itself, but just clarifying bases in my knowledge.

It’s obvious that the only reason Israel did this assassination is to provoke hezbollah. Their failure in gaza calls for trying with Lebanon. Israel seems desperate.

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