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cupcakezealot ,
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I’ve never stopped but it’s made me depressed when I was seemingly the only one doing it :/

wide_eyed_stupid ,
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Oh definitely, it was really such a depressing eye-opener, to see so many people around just not give a fuck about anyone else.

Dinodicchellathicc ,
@Dinodicchellathicc@lemmy.world avatar

Id be surprised if anyone actually does this. I don’t think anyone cares anymore.

I am worried about my grandma though, she’s old and covid has a way with old people.

PersnickityPenguin ,

I was just in Japan a month ago and they have somewhere around 99% mask usage.

And still people were catching COVID.

cucumacu ,

I know two people with COVID who don’t know each other at the moment. I don’t remember the last time that happened. It’s BACK.

AnyProgressIsGood ,

Caught and fainted twice. Rough go this stuff.

Polar ,

Never stopped wearing them. COVID never went away.

Zacryon ,

Thank you. Being with someone who endured a hard cancer treatment and having a weak immune system since then, I really appreciate it if people wear masks where appropriate to protect themselves and others.

soar ,

I mean… It never will.

jampacked ,

Was there a bacterial pneumonia trend that happened like during spanish flu?

crashoverride ,

COVID will never go away. What has happened and will continue to happen even further is the lethality and severity of symptoms will go down so it’s not as worrisome. Also we have defenses and medications for it now. But what I do hope that COVID has done for us is that if you’re sick or have symptoms, you’ll mask up, but masking all the time now is not necessary.

01189998819991197253 , (edited )
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The masks they peddle in stores are labeled as “not for medical use”. I mean, damn! They have holes in them that I can see through with my bare eyes!

Masks that are protective, are called respirators and are part of a class of equipment called PPE (Personal Protective Equipment). The word “Personal” is in the name, because it is designed to protect the wearer, not those around the wearer, and is limited by the rating (P100 being the rating that will actually reduce the risk of some viral infections a reasonable amount, while N95 is for larger particulates like airborne dust and pollen). Will they (including those rated for dust) help reduce the risk of spread from the wearer to others around her/him? Of course, but only as long as the virus didn’t go airborne and, even then, “only” up to 20% reduction in risk. Airborne viruses, like the coronavirus family of viruses, are able to penetrate the fibers and travel, but the layers of the respirators and non-medical masks slow that travel considerably.

I don’t think that people should be required to wear masks. If you want to wear one, please do so and protect yourself with your PPE. If you’ll see me around, I’ll be wearing mine. But if you don’t want to wear it, I believe that that’s your freedom over your own body. It’s your choice not to wear one, just as it is my choice to wear one. If someone makes fun of you for wearing a mask, I believe it to be your freedom to punch them in their throats.

The issue, as far as I’ve noticed, is that people think they know something, when none of us really do. Even our scientists are waffling back and forth on the subject. We all do what we feel is best for us and ours, and we should allow others to do the same to them and their.

Additionally, if someone around you is terrified, and would prefer you wear a mask, I think you should wear a mask (or not be around them). As I’ve said, we’re flying blind, and, sometimes, we need to feel safe whether or not we really are. Just be a good human.

Lastly, up to 20% reduction in risk of spread isn’t anything to sneeze at, after all (pun intended). Do the right thing, whatever you feel that is, and respect others as they do their right thing.

[E] You don’t have to agree with me, but it is scientifically accurate. I hope you don’t disagree with the “be a good human” part, though, since… why would you not be a good human?

victron ,

Fuck, I’m pro mask and all, but… that’s gonna be a hard sell. And tbh I fucking enjoy not wearing one anymore (unless I’m sick or something).

smellythief ,

Maybe “something” = “at high risk of getting stick?”

skizzles , (edited )

😂

Edit: maybe I should have noted that I agreed with “Maybe “something” = “at high risk of getting stick?”” But just thought it was funny that he had to point that out.

Balroy ,

Imagine being scared of a cold with a 99.6% survival rate. 😂😂 newsflash buddy the masks never did anything and never will. God the people that freaked out over a cold are just pathetic, you all wasted years of your lives hiding from a cold that will get to you eventually anyway. The rest of us continued living our lives perfectly fine.

nicolairathjen ,

Imagine the survival rate without precautions. (e.g. look at Italy 2020)

Balroy ,

Okay and look at Sweden they didn’t do anything for Rona and were better off than everyone 😂

Zacryon ,

they didn’t do anything for Rona

You’re wrong.

Swedes were encouraged to work from home if possible and limit travel within the country. In addition, people aged 70 or older were asked to limit social contact, and people with COVID symptoms were asked to self-isolate. The goal was to protect the elderly and other high-risk groups while slowing down the spread of the virus so the healthcare system wouldn’t become overwhelmed.

As the number of cases surged, some restrictions were imposed. Public events were limited to a maximum of 50 people in March 2020, and eight people in November 2020. Visits to nursing homes were banned and upper secondary schools closed. Primary schools did, however, remain open throughout the pandemic.

Face masks were not recommended for the general public during the first wave, and only in certain situations later in the pandemic.

theconversation.com/did-swedens-controversial-cov…

Jff ,

I think the way you put it is blunt but a lot of people feel this way.

Balroy ,

I’ll always speak my mind, and these people will never accept the fact they got played. They will all just listen to every little thing the gov tells them to do, like the good little sheep they are. If they brought vax camps and train rides to them, all these people would jump on with out hesitation.

Zacryon ,

You don’t do much critical thinking in your free time, or do you?

Balroy ,

Coming from the one who is scared of a fucking cold. You have a higher chance of dying from the flu than you do Rona, but keep living in fear see where that gets you. 😂

Zacryon ,

Have you heard of the psychological condition of paranoia? Maybe you should look into it and talk to some professionals.

Balroy ,

So all of you that are scared of a cold just suffer from paranoia? Shit you could have just said that from the beginning. Well shit good luck G.

seejur ,

I love how he feels the need to put the smily face on every comment when it is crystal clear that he is malding behind the screen

afraid_of_zombies ,

Maybe instead of speaking your mind you can speak with facts next time.

Balroy ,

Lmao I do not give a single shit what you dumb fucks on the Internet think or say. Y’all got played and you’re scared to admit it. You’ll learn eventually, otherwise have fun living the rest of your pathetic lives in fear of a cold. 😂

spongebue ,

So what’s the survival rate of a cold?

Snowyman12334567890 ,

Like 120%

Balroy , (edited )

The question is why are you so scared of the cold in the first place? 99.6% survival rate. How is that scary? Genuinely curious, explain why that’s scary to people. Bunch of downvotws but no one to explain why the cold is so scary? Hmm

spongebue ,

If I answer, will you actually listen? I’ll believe you if you start by answering my question of what the survival/mortality rate of the common cold is.

Balroy ,

Either way you’re not gonna change my mind and I’m not gonna change yours, but I’ve always been curious why people are so scared of that bullshit when you face hundreds of other ways to die every single day with out batting and eye. You have a higher chance of being hit by lightning than dying from Rona. So what’s so scary about a cold?

spongebue ,

Where the fuck do you live that more than 1/200 people get struck by lightning?

Fuck it. You say 99.6% survival rate, as if you can effectively round it up to 100% and say it’s totally harmless. What it really means is that about 1 in 200 will die. Here in the Denver metro area, where I live, that’s almost 120,000 dead. No doubt they spend time in the hospital first. We don’t have the hospital infrastructure to support that kind of influx, and that’s not even counting those who need medical care but survive.

My daughter was born just over a year ago. She was 3 months early, and I WISH she were 2 pounds because that would’ve been more reassuring considering her actual birth weight would be rounded down to a single pound. She only got fully released from needing oxygen about a week ago. I can only imagine how things would’ve been if all the wonderful doctors and nurses we were fortunate enough to have were assigned to COVID units because the world ran the way you wished it did. Hell, I’m thankful we didn’t have to deal with it the way things actually were in 2020. Because what gives us a cold could send her straight back to the hospital and hopefully she gets out.

Zacryon ,

Yeah, the way you speak and argue clearly shows how much of not “a dumb fuck” you are. Veeeery convincing.

Balroy ,

Wanna try that again in English?

spongebue ,

"High five everyone! We got these guys to wear MASKS! LOLOL! Hey, why’d my stocks go down? Oh well, MASKS!!! 🤣 "

Zacryon ,

Ah a medical expert as I can see. Please go ahead and enlighten me: where is your systemic proof of the ineffectiveness of masks as a precaution to reduce the spread of Covid?

If it’s not too much to ask, please be so kind to provide the statistics regarding the different severity levels and corresponding number of cases of Covid while comparing that to the common cold.

vfonov ,

From “Physical interventions to interrupt or reduce the spread of respiratory viruses” Jefferson Et Al 2023 Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews doi.org/10.1002/14651858.CD006207.pub6… Medical/surgical masks compared to no masks

We included 12 trials (10 cluster‐RCTs) comparing medical/surgical masks versus no masks to prevent the spread of viral respiratory illness (two trials with healthcare workers and 10 in the community). Wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of influenza‐like illness (ILI)/COVID‐19 like illness compared to not wearing masks (risk ratio (RR) 0.95, 95% confidence interval (CI) 0.84 to 1.09; 9 trials, 276,917 participants; moderate‐certainty evidence. Wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of laboratory‐confirmed influenza/SARS‐CoV‐2 compared to not wearing masks (RR 1.01, 95% CI 0.72 to 1.42; 6 trials, 13,919 participants; moderate‐certainty evidence)

Jff ,

I was just typing up the same thing. I the UK this would need to get really bad for any sort of compliance to take place

IzzyJ ,

Yeah, its endemic now. When will it stop being news the way flu is, that kills people too

Zacryon ,

You’re right. The flu should be more present in the news as well.

walnutwalrus ,

“press X to doubt”

Hyperi0n ,

Fuck off back to reddit.

obinice ,
@obinice@lemmy.world avatar

As somebody with family in the extremely high risk of death category twice over, I’ll make sure we’re all extra careful.

Unfortunately, masks only protect others, not yourself, and so we must rely on the intelligence of others around us to wear masks to protect their loved ones and the at risk British population.

So, we shall see. Mark my words, if these people kill my family, I will never forgive them. Right wing antivax tossers and left wing apathetic idiots, I’ll never forgive either group. On my deathbed in the 2080s I won’t forgive them.

s1vgm ,

Why would you go to work if you know you are not feeling well??

Aux ,

People are dumb.

zikk_transport2 ,

And some might not have a choice, especially in US.

woodenskewer ,
@woodenskewer@lemmy.world avatar

Laughs in no sick time hours

MeanEYE ,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

People are often forced to as many live from salary to salary. My country had a genius idea to reduce longest sick time doctor can prescribe without commission to two weeks from previously two months. Imagine how great that must be for everyone having to work their asses off. Especially considering that a lot of salaries are minimum wages and the rest of the salary is tied through KPI bonuses and stuff. So if you miss a day or two a month there goes majority of your salary.

bownt1 ,

because your kids are hungry

Gawanoh ,

You need to do something about that policies, forcing you to work sick.

jarfil ,

The problem will take care of itself: get sick and die, have kids starve… now they’re no longer hungry, problem solved! /s

steltek ,

I raised this exact point to a relative on a similar issue (people on the road during a major blizzard).

That said, there are many jobs where you don’t need to be there in person. Saying “if you feel sick stay home” (or similar) should be encouraged as it’s necessary to enforce this expectation that if you can stay home, you should.

FlyingSquid ,
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Thanks to the COVID infection I already had and some other illness, I have no sick time left. So if I get it again, I have to take the entire time I’m sick unpaid.

Now I’m lucky in that I can work from home and would do so while able but contagious, and we can afford me to take a few days off unpaid, but plenty of people are in my situation and can’t afford a single unpaid day.

Jumi ,

A numbered amount of sick days is such a stupid concept. I’m glad I have as much as I need.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Agreed, but it’s pretty standard in U.S. businesses- if they give sick time at all.

Jumi ,

You guys are really getting fucked over there

Zacryon , (edited )

Is this a US thing I’m too European to relate to?

That’s horrible. Social darwinism at its finest.

grabyourmotherskeys ,

Definitely. The vast majority of US citizens are one paycheck away from financial disaster.

fool.com/…/86-of-americans-cant-afford-to-miss-on…

thenerdjournals ,

I have a coworker who is here with me today ay my job. he’s horribly sick and lost his sense of taste but still insists on working and the managers let him. so I’ll probably have covid next week.

Polar ,

The fact you have 8 downvotes is insane. People truly are piece of shit in this world.

infyrin ,
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Yeah…good luck with that. As far as millions of anti-vaxxers are concerned, they determined the whole epidemic to be over. So, we’re going to be dealing with spreads again and death. It’s what they want anyways.

Astroturfed ,

I wish we’d never forced masks to begin with. There wasn’t nearly enough natural selection from the whole thing. Let em kill themselves.

lazynooblet ,
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The flimsy masks are more beneficial to others than the wearer. Preventing moisture leaving your mouth/nose.

CeruleanRuin ,

How at this point are there still so many people who don’t understand what masks are for? It’s not primarily to protect yourself, it’s to bolster the whole herd’s defenses by reducing spread.

The mask isn’t for you, it’s for everyone else. It’s not that fucking hard to understand.

Astroturfed ,

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    maniacal_gaff ,

    What a shit thing to say. Slightly less healthy people still write songs, hold the door for you, transport food, build things in factories, design new technologies, yet you’ve decided the world would be better off without them. Fuck you, seriously.

    grabyourmotherskeys ,

    As my mother would say to me when I was a child and got bullied at school, we should feel sorry for this person, they are obviously deeply unhappy. They may think they are happy due to psychological issues that equate hurting others with keeping themselves safe. It’s pretty depressing

    Astroturfed ,

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    grabyourmotherskeys ,

    You are taking a contrarian position to get attention. If you didn’t care you wouldn’t bother with this at all. Anyone can see this.

    Astroturfed ,

    Your spending a ton of time arguing with me because you like attention. Anyone can see this.

    grabyourmotherskeys ,

    I thought that was obvious.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Putting aside your wanting disregard for human life, the virus not only killed people it also left people messed up for life. A close friend of mine was a fairly successful white collar worker, due to brain damage I have my doubts he will ever be able to work again. He was 37 in 2020. Also has two kids. Who I guess now get to see daddy struggle with driving a car and talking for over a few minutes.

    Astroturfed ,

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    sweetviolentblush ,
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    you know young people are still getting long covid right?

    Astroturfed ,

    Yup, shit happens. Being alive is risky. Feel free to exit the simulation whenever you want.

    sweetviolentblush ,
    @sweetviolentblush@sh.itjust.works avatar

    this reeks of “I am 12 and very smart” energy

    Astroturfed ,

    Sorry that I don’t have the same groupthink opinion on a topic as the rest of the leftwing echo chamber. I believe in a utilitarian approach to society. That means socialism, but also you can go ahead and die if you’re allergic to peanuts and think everyone on a plane can’t eat them now. So, ya be mad at me for not giving a fuck what you think about that. Go cry for the statistical outliers to someone who cares.

    PersnickityPenguin ,

    That’s simply not true. A good n95 or n99 mask will absolutely prevent you from catching it. I spent 2 weeks around people with COVID and I wore my mask, and I never caught anything.

    The problem is that everybody wears fucking cloth masks when we’ve had n95 masks available for 2 years and people complain that masks don’t work. Yet doctors use them, construction workers use them and people in labs do all the time.

    CeruleanRuin , (edited )

    What you said and what I said are both true.

    N95 masks will protect you, but the reason good and well-adjusted people want others to also wear them is to protect everyone else, especially immune-compromised people for whom a COVID infection could well be life-threatening.

    And of course it’s also a numbers game. If even 10% fewer people get infected, across a large population that’s a quite significant number of people who aren’t clogging up hospitals and calling out sick from the work force.

    dude187 ,

    That’s misinformation

    sweetviolentblush ,
    @sweetviolentblush@sh.itjust.works avatar

    “I think I’m smarter than the experts” energy in every single comment, lol

    Zacryon ,

    Even though I share your morbid enthusiasm about humankind, you might possibly admit in some corner of your heart that there might be some people who don’t deserve to die or get long term health issues from Covid. Aren’t those, who might be worth saving from your point of view, important enough to try to participate in measures which might help to reduce the risks for them?

    Astroturfed ,

    The survival of humanity and keeping earth habitable for most species currently alive, requires a more utilitarian mindset. Making decision with our feelings got us where we’re at. People aren’t going to change in mass anytime soon. So, some people need to die. If that can skew the way that vote for abject failure and are less productive for society, it’s a bonus.

    Water1053 ,

    The CDC declared the end in May in the US: www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/…/end-of-phe.html

    Hyperi0n ,

    They were determined that it was all a hoax because they don’t know anyone who died.

    holmesandhoatzin ,

    Even if they knew someone who died, they insisted it wasn’t covid, even to the point of keeping it off death certificates.

    Balroy , (edited )

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    Zacryon ,

    And your proof for that is where? In the illusions you build around yourself?

    Balroy ,

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    dude187 ,

    The shots never stopped spread

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    scottywh ,

    They work better than your brain does.

    ColdWater ,
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    LOL

    Bluetreefrog ,

    They do.

    From: Verma, S., Dhanak, M., & Frankenfield, J. (2020). Visualizing the effectiveness of face masks in obstructing respiratory jets. Physics of Fluids, 32(6), 061708. doi.org/10.1063/5.0016018

    TABLE I. A summary of the different types of masks tested, the materials they are made of, and their effectiveness in impeding droplet-dispersal. The last column indicates the distance traveled by the jet beyond which its forward progression stops. The average distances have been computed over multiple runs, and the symbol “∼” is used to indicate the presence of high variability in the first two scenarios listed.

    Mask type Material Threads/in. Average jet distance

    Uncovered … … ∼8 ft

    Bandana Elastic T-shirt material 85 ∼3 ft 7 in.

    Folded handkerchief Cotton 55 1 ft 3 in.

    Stitched mask Quilting cotton 70 2.5 in.

    Commercial maska Unknown Randomly assorted fibres 8 in.

    Compactor9679 ,

    Hahahahhajaj you can wear them at you house if you want

    TowerofPimps ,
    @TowerofPimps@lemmy.world avatar

    Lol right? Eff that.

    TwoGems ,
    @TwoGems@lemmy.world avatar

    hahaha long Covid is so funny!

    TIEPilot ,

    Just happens to coincide w/ the 2024 elections… Riiiiight.

    papertowels ,

    2024 elections in UK? I didn’t know that.

    Stumblinbear ,
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    The 2024 elections… Next year? If it was last year, would you say it JUST HAPPENED to coincide with the midterms? Give me a break

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