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Putin: lifting Ukraine missile restrictions would put Nato ‘at war’ with Russia

Vladimir Putin has said that a western move to let Kyiv use longer-range weapons against targets inside Russia would mean Nato would be “at war” with Moscow.

Putin spoke as US and UK top diplomats discussed easing rules on firing western weapons into Russia, which Kyiv has been pressing for, more than two and a half years into Moscow’s offensive.

“This would in a significant way change the very nature of the conflict,” Putin told a state television reporter.

“It would mean that Nato countries, the US, European countries, are at war with Russia,” he added. “If that’s the case, then taking into account the change of nature of the conflict, we will take the appropriate decisions based on the threats that we will face.”

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FlyingSquid ,
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China's_final_warning

NIB ,

Doesnt this imply that, for Putin, Crimea and Donbas are not part of Russia? Those have been repeatedly hit by long range western missiles.

Maybe someone should inform the Russians living in those areas that their leader thinks less of them than other Russians.

thirteene ,

Awkwardly ignoring the nationals in the Somoa, Guam and Virgin Islands. You can even make a case for Wales and Ireland. This is unfortunately common the more I think about it.

AlphaOmega ,

WW 3 has already started.

Tattorack ,
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I don’t know what counts as a “world war” these days anymore.

A significant portion of the world’s militaries have been involved in various Middle Eastern conflicts, yet those haven’t been called world wars…

So… What qualifies as a world war?

yetAnotherUser ,

Like the previous N times? 😴

Everyone is so afraid

Shapillon ,

The famous paper tiger. :p

DarkCloud ,

Negotiate the full deal to return Ukrainian, and exit peaceably. Run your stories in Russia “Ukraine successfully denazified, free and fair elections to be held” - “Ukrainian forces defeated at Russian border”…

…the go back to arresting democracy protestors, gay rights advocates, and your own alt-right talking heads… And try to keep your head on Vlad. Try to pick a successors, and a nice European country to retire to.

lemmylommy ,

Wait a seconds. Haven’t they said that they are at war with NATO at least since the started the full invasion?

1o6s3nhwic ,
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No, you are retarded my man

Ab_intra , (edited )
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At this point there is no point in beliving in Putin when he talks about red lines. Apparently he would Nuke the shit out of Ukraine if they entered Russian territory but this has not happened after Kursk…

Assman , (edited )
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Keep rattling that saber and it’ll fall apart

Deestan ,

You and what army?

kokesh ,
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    Buffalox , (edited )

    Russians are crazy, but are they really crazy enough to self destruct completely?
    Because I’m pretty sure they must be aware that that is what they are talking about.

    FelixCress ,

    Oh gosh, I am so scared. Another Russian red line.

    atro_city ,

    Is that a shred of concern? Could he lose the war if longs range missiles were allowed?

    CaptainKickass ,

    Putler makes veiled threats to use nuclear weapons.

    Again. Dude isn’t really impressing anybody anymore.

    tal , (edited )
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    “It would mean that Nato countries, the US, European countries, are at war with Russia,” he added. “If that’s the case, then taking into account the change of nature of the conflict, we will take the appropriate decisions based on the threats that we will face.”

    Assuming that the implication here isn’t that the appropriate decision would be “Russia’s gonna pull out of Ukraine”, and it’s more “Russia is gonna use nuclear weapons”, I expect that it can be added to this list:

    united24media.com/…/a-timeline-of-russias-nuclear…

    A Timeline of Russia’s Nuclear Threats Against the West

    I believe that that would be entry .

    NOT_RICK ,
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    Too late, they already used ATACMS in the Kursk region. Guess we’re “at war” now. I’d argue that’s a laughable position for him to take given Russian agents have been sabotaging European infrastructure all over the place since Feb 22. Letting Ukraine defend itself shouldn’t be controversial.

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