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  • DMBFFF OP ,
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    The king is not England, and England is not the king!”

    The PRC is not China, and China is not the PRC!

    Zorque ,

    China is not the PRC

    Tell that to the PRC.

    Aurenkin ,

    Yeah I’m no fan of the CCP to put it mildly but they are doing great work when it comes to EVs and renewables as well from what I can tell. Good to call it out, would like to see some more competition from elsewhere but either way let’s hope the trend continues or accelerates.

    empireOfLove2 ,
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    having a command economy controlled by a one-party state that can literally dictate “ok you’re eco friendly now” is pretty convenient

    it’s just, y’know. the rest of the other imperialistic genocide bullshit…

    queermunist ,
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    The fact that China is called genocidal while the US and Europe give unlimited military support to Israel is really something.

    empireOfLove2 ,
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    It is not an exclusive or. I was not calling America not-genocidal, but the fact that you automatically assumed I said that just because I said something anti-China is very telling.

    queermunist ,
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    My point is China isn’t accused of doing anything close to what Israel is doing, yet the West condemns China and gives weapons to Israel. This cheapens and weakens the accusation of genocide and discredits the concept itself.

    Genocide is the crime of crimes. It shouldn’t be used as a technicality to score political points.

    Deceptichum ,
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    They compete through lower worker protections and wages, and environmental regulations than even the US.

    Let’s not call exploitation “great work”.

    naturalgasbad ,

    looks at China

    Manufacturing labour costs were $8.31 per hour in China last year, compared with less than $3 in places such as India, Thailand and Vietnam. - The Economist

    looks at Mexico

    Anyway, manufacturing in China is a low-skill role that employs a huge proportion of the market. In terms of social/cultural value, its closest parallel in the US would be the retail services sector.

    LibertyLizard ,
    Emmie ,
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    Good, I may not care about climate that much but I never liked the oil barons

    queermunist ,
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    Another benefit to the sanctions against Chinese EVs - gotta protect those oil profits!

    empireOfLove2 , (edited )
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    They sort of bury the lede by only mentioning it once in the tagline. Their consumption is also down because there is a massive widespread shift to using CNG/LNG in industrial vehicles/transport trucks instead of diesel, which is a majority driver of oil consumption in China’s production-based economy.

    DMBFFF OP ,
    @DMBFFF@lemmy.world avatar

    True, but IIUC, the energy/mass of carbon might be better than diesel.

    Chessmasterrex ,

    I’m all for giving credit where credit is due.

    dugmeup ,

    Good.

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