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FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

some dick opened the seacocks. duh.

BartyDeCanter ,

While the priors seemed to suggest it could float, the update step showed that was an outlier.

I’ll show myself the door.

xantoxis ,

No please stay, this joke was the only reason I clicked into the comments

PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S ,
@PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I’ll show myself the door.

A drawing depicting the Monty Hall Problem

Do you want to pick door No. 2?

Klear ,

Hard to answer that since I don’t know which door was picked first.

Then again, I’m taking 3. Goats are cool.

PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S ,
@PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

In search of a new car, the player chooses a door, say 1. The game host then opens one of the other doors, say 3, to reveal a goat and offers to let the player switch from door 1 to door 2.

Klear ,

Yeah, duh. You are supposed to switch doors, everybody knows that at this point, but the picture doesn’t show which door was initially picked.

PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S ,
@PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Yeah I know, that’s why I’m telling you now which door was picked (door #1 according to the caption on the Wikipedia page I stole borrowed this image from) 🙂

merari42 ,

At least you only have to sink one Bayesian Superyacht to update your priors. To get at population parameters you would need to sink many Frequentist Superyachts

ArbitraryValue ,

“At 3.55, a mini tornado arrived,” Cefalù said. “The docks of the port diverted it and it hit the sailboat head-on.”

That seems like the most freak of freak accidents.

ShinkanTrain ,

From what I’ve gathered so far I’d say that every superyatch sinks quickly but I’m not super confident

DirigibleProtein ,

The front fell off.

gravitas_deficiency ,

I’d like to emphasize that this is not typical.

tiredofsametab ,

Have they considered water? My guess is water.

Moonrise2473 ,

They don’t mention the conspiracy theory: this vessel was owned by the founder of Autonomy software, which died in the accident.

The same day, the ex vice president of Autonomy software, was killed in a car accident.

They were related in a fraud case where HP acquired this company for $11B when actually was worth much less than that, writing off a $8B loss very shortly after. But HP is an expert in overvaluing acquisitions.

Now, I can’t imagine a big HP shareholder like blackrock planning a revenge like this, but indeed is a weird coincidence that the two persons died in a mysterious accident on the same day <a href="" rel="nofollow"></a>

jupyter_rain ,
@jupyter_rain@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Had to look the car accident up. I mean that both are killed sounds suspicious, but in case it was by revenge it was planned very well. At least bbc wrote that the women which caused the car accident even stayed at the scene, so no hit and run. And my two cents regarding the Yacht are that even if it was a big boat, I would never underestimate the power of really, really shitty weather (Wasn’t even a waterspoute mentioned somewere?).

TheTechnician27 ,
@TheTechnician27@lemmy.world avatar

Moreover, I’ll never understand the people who think that shadowy cabals like this intentionally leave extremely obvious clues. Somewhere like Russia, sure, you want to have plausible deniability while still making it obvious that "I did it’. But why would someone wanting to kill these two people for some unspecified reason want to kill them both on the same day? That’s the absolute last thing you want to do if you’re trying to cover something up.

wizzor ,

I mean, killing someone isn’t going to bring their money back. Putin has his boyars thrown out of windows to send a message, that’s why it’s obvious.

wurzelgummidge ,

That’s the absolute last thing you want to do if you’re trying to cover something up.

And that’s exactly what they want you to think.

corsicanguppy ,

They don’t mention the conspiracy theory: this vessel was owned by the founder of Autonomy software, which died in the accident.

Ha! The which/who failure makes it sound like the vessel died in the accident.

The same day, the ex vice president of Autonomy software, was killed in a car accident.

And this one sounds like ‘the same day’ is someone’s name, and that person was killed in a car accident. What a weird name – and I once worked for a guy named Ransom Love, and this one still stands out. Do they shorten the name to ‘Sam’?

wazoobonkerbrain ,

The same day, the ex vice president of Autonomy software, was killed in a car accident.

It was not on the same day. Chamberlain died on 17/08. The Bayesian sunk on the morning of 19/08. I agree that it’s a weird coincidence that the two cofounders died within days of each other, and only a short time after winning their lawsuit. But I can’t imagine it’s a conspiracy. You don’t assassinate someone by sinking their boat in a storm. The road death is not suspicious either, the driver in question is a local woman who is cooperating with police, it’s not like some anonymous driver struck the man down and then disappeared.

Lost_My_Mind ,

Oh, so this billionaire died on his superyacht? Oh noooooo…

another one bites the dust starts playing on the radio

tiefling ,

He just wanted to see the Titanic but the orcas got to him first

Oh well

massive_bereavement ,

Y'all use this to remind yourselves about donating to Orca conservation.

Or else.

Irremarkable ,
@Irremarkable@fedia.io avatar

I'll never (with exceptions, but this isn't one) root for someones death. But I'm sure as fuck not going to shed a tear over him. The kid on the other hand? That's just awful.

haulyard ,
@haulyard@lemmy.world avatar

Hearing a few thoughts about the adjustable keel being in the up position. If the ballast was lower that would have certainly helped with stability.

floofloof ,

Do they do the same diligence for the boats full of hundreds of poor people that sink in the Mediterranean every year? Or only when it’s a couple of rich people?

NickwithaC ,
@NickwithaC@lemmy.world avatar

It’s pretty obvious why those ones sink.

jimmy90 ,

i’m guessing these pleasure super yachts are not hardcore sea fairing vessels that might not handle sudden extreme weather at all well. also might not be captained by people that would do all the right things in those weather conditions.

obviously i have no idea if any of that is true

SlopppyEngineer ,

I’ve seen a clip about that. Many hulls are styrofoam with fiberglass. It’s cheap, looks good, but doesn’t do well with collisions and bad weather. If that’s the case here is to be determined.

riodoro1 ,

Go to any marina and 90% of the boats there are „styrofoam” and fiberglass. In this size range core fiberglass is a tested technology with many advantages over steel or aluminum hulls (those sink too when abused)

You see the Titanic was made out of steel and it didn’t handle collisions very well. Boats aren’t usually designed to hit things.

SkybreakerEngineer ,

Get a boat with a torpedo belt

Akasazh ,
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I hope they use Bayesian statistics, however forlorn that hope

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