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TransplantedSconie ,

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Magister ,
@Magister@lemmy.world avatar

Enough about this douche canoe, can he disappear from social sphere? I don’t want to hear about this guy rant every day for the next 50 years !

cyborganism ,

Which one?

Empricorn ,

Yes.

Magister ,
@Magister@lemmy.world avatar

You hit it right!

OhStopYellingAtMe ,
@OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world avatar

There is literally an avenue in which we can put him on a rocket and send him to Mars. I am all for it.

Tyfud ,

No, because he’s rich and influencial and keeps saying and doing shit that gets him front page in the news. That’s the way the world works unfortunately.

dogsnest ,
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PunchingWood ,

I’m seeing plenty of Teslas though.

There are less than the Tesla phase a few years ago, but that’s mostly because competitors also started doing electric cars. I think more and more people are stepping away from fully electric vehicles as a whole, and moving to hybrids instead. Especially now that a lot of countries are starting to notice the drain on energy networks.

But I doubt they’re really “struggling”.

protist , (edited )

Especially now that a lot of countries are starting to notice the drain on energy networks.

Lmao

But I doubt they’re really “struggling”.

You don’t have to sit there and imagine things, because they are a publicly traded company…

It’s clear Musk’s politics have turned off a ton of potential customers worldwide. Tesla sales are falling off, while eg the Hyundai Ioniq is setting sales records in the US

PunchingWood ,

That’s the US.

I’m talking about Europe. Just like the article.

And yes, there are literally countries in Europe that are looking into dealing with energy drains. Since these cars easily take up the same as an entire household overnight.

Also, you’re basing your ‘facts’ on pure imagination and speculation. The opinion of one business owner does not represent the entire market.

protist ,

Tesla’s market share in Europe declined from 27.8% to 19.9% year over year as of this past March. Tesla’s sales in Europe fell 36% while BMW and Volvo had 60% and 70% growth in EV sales over the same period, respectively.

whichev.net/…/tesla-tops-european-car-sales-chart…

PunchingWood , (edited )

And nowhere does it confirm your or anyone else’s wild speculation that it has anything to do with Musk’s attitude or his backing of Trump.

I’d also hardly call those percentages a struggle, they had a big lead because of slacking competitors. It’s just competing more with existing brands and Chinese brands in Europe now that they’re catching up.

protist ,

Would-be Tesla buyers snub company as Musk’s reputation dips

Infynis ,

When every other company manufacturing the same thing as you is making massive gains, because the whole market is expanding, and you’re suddenly posting losses, that’s going to raise so questions

MerchantsOfMisery ,

Is it weird that a part of me wishes I was as confident in myself being right about stuff as you are about yourself?

takeda ,

LOL, seems like you are only are aware of Tesla losses and try to explain it that it is because a power grid can’t handle it.

In reality it is that Tesla is losing customers which are fleeing to other manufacturers.

As for the energy consumption, for example in California 25% of new car sales are BHEV. Currently electric cars use 1% of the power and the estimates are that by 2035 (when sales of new ICE vehicles will be banned) this will go to 4%.

Viking_Hippie ,

Since these cars easily take up the same as an entire household overnight.

You mean the same as the household take up overnight where most are sleeping and have turned almost everything off? That’s not actually a lot…

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

“lots of people are buying Tesla’s”

“People are stepping away from fully electric vehicles.”

Which is it? Are Tesla’s strong or weak? Or are we somehow in a situation where EVs are weak and Tesla is strong?

HootinNHollerin ,

Also in America. Here in California I know several people that sold their Tesla because of lonE skuM and many more who wouldn’t buy because of him. I myself have told Tesla recruiters in two occasions that I’d never work for that piece of shit

RestrictedAccount ,

Recruiters??!?!!?!

Why in the world would he possibly need to recruit people:

  • To come live in abject fear of his every whim?
  • To be expected to work 24 hours a day seven days a week?
  • To not be able to have a family?

All the best talent will be lining up for some of that!!!

At this point having Tesla on your résumé means you couldn’t do better.

st3ph3n ,

I was in the market for an EV shortly after he took over twitter. I ruled Tesla out because I do not want to be seen to support that douche in any way.

IphtashuFitz ,

I actually bought my Tesla about a year before he took over Twitter. The supercharger network has proven itself on a few long trips, which is the main reason I’m holding onto it for now.

I can pretty much guarantee that my next car will be an EV but definitely not a Tesla. Since virtually all EV manufacturers have announced support for J3400 in the next few years I figure there will be a handful of decent options for me to choose from in 5-10 years.

st3ph3n ,

They’re certainly massively ahead of the competition with their charging network, I won’t argue with that. I’m fortunate enough that I can charge at home and that’s pretty much all I have ever done. I have not needed to do a cross-country road trip.

spamfajitas ,

I’m one. When he moved Tesla engineers to work on Twitter and then went on an unhinged anti-Trans rant in the middle of an earnings call, I shopped around and traded in my model 3. I always assumed the major selling point of a Tesla was the software, but he keeps fucking with the people who make it.

candybrie ,

I think a lot of it was the charging network. What happened with that again? Oh yeah. He fired that whole team.

NoiseColor ,

I think he should sue the EU customers! It’s unfair their political beliefs are hurting his business.

Empricorn ,

Good idea. Then, this entitled, out-of-touch crybaby can sue the kid that took his juice in Kindergarten!

bappity ,
@bappity@lemmy.world avatar

yes… hahaha… YES!

wildcardology ,

Hmmm, I smell a lawsuit.

saltesc ,

Really? It’s pa-ywalled, but based on just the title; really?

It’s not the poor reputation Teslas have at being cars? Recalls, performance, ongoing costs, longevity, manufacturing quality…etc. But, it’s X instead?

Jimbabwe ,

The cars are actually great, unfortunately

nokturne213 ,

Are they though?

Viking_Hippie ,

Nah. They’re pretty and quick, but they have the price tag of a brand new Jaguar and the build quality of a 1980s Yugo.

Rayspekt ,

Why not both?

Cruxifux ,

I hate that becoming a certain level of rich can guarantee that you will never not be rich even if you’re the dumbest motherfucker that ever tried to do business.

Zetta ,

Maybe it doesn’t reach your criteria of a “certain level”, but there’s definitely stories of people winning significant amounts of money in the lottery and being broke years later because they are morons.

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

Right. You do have to still be smart enough in some way to retain the money/power. Or lucky/connected enough (daddy is watching out that dumb-as-rocks junior doesn’t blow all of his $100m, etc)

barsquid ,

You need to reach the level and get the nepotism engine to collect you. A lotto winner could probably attend an event and sieg heil in front of Peter Thiel. That’s like calling a taxi into nepotism. Typical lotto winners just spend it all frivolously instead.

cuerdo ,

It doesn’t, Cris Rock explained it very well:

Kobe Bryant is rich, he gets a paycheck of 100 mil per year.

Now, wealthy is the guy that signs that check.

Ghyste ,

Elon Musk ’s backing of Donald Trump is hurting Tesla’s struggling EV business in Europe

ExperiencedWinter ,

Elon Musk ’s backing of Donald Trump is hurting Tesla ’s struggling EV business in Europe

MerchantsOfMisery ,

All the rich folks I know avoid Tesla like the plague because they prefer some level of political ambiguity while driving. Even if they’re driving a $500k Porsche, it doesn’t come with the "this company is proudly run by a right wing asshole everyone has heard of" vibe, just the regular "I’m rich, SEE!" vibe.

mipadaitu ,

Got some bad news for you…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Porsche

dmalteseknight ,
@dmalteseknight@programming.dev avatar

Eh when the founders are dead long enough, people stop caring. Ex: Chanel

ShepherdPie ,

Henry Ford was a Nazi sympathizer as well but that’s long in the past.

MerchantsOfMisery ,

Average person has no clue about this compared to Musk. Not surprised that the founder of a luxury brand is a bastard though.

kungen ,

It’s different when they’ve been dead for a long time. If we avoided anything that has had connections to the NSDAP, the majority of old German brands would be boycotted.

Bishma ,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I haven’t broken through the paywall, can someone explain why a drugstore chain is being quoted? Do German drugstores sell cars or run deliveries or something?

Sam_Bass ,

/shocked

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