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fart_pickle ,

It’s funny how indigenous population who’s scared about their wellbeing is called “far-right”. Focus on stabbings, rapes and other pressing issues.

blackn1ght , (edited )

Funny how there was no rage when Lucy Letby was found guilty or that guy who very recently murdered the mother and daughters with a crossbow.

itslilith ,
@itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

“scared about their well-being”

sure, buddy

Why9 ,

Indigenous population scared about their wellbeing? Wellbeing from what? What possible threat has the indigenous population faced recently that you need to be all up in arms about it?

This is a report on Gov.uk

In 2022/23, white individuals accounted for 78% of arrests, 8% were of black individuals, 8% were of Asian individuals, 4% were of mixed ethnicity individuals and 2% were of other ethnicity individuals

In 2022, 77% of all males prosecuted for indictable offences were from the white ethnic group, compared to 86% of all females prosecuted

Since 2018, white defendants have had a consistently lower average custodial sentence length (ASCL) than all other ethnic groups combined for indictable offences.

Black prisoners served the greatest proportion of their original sentence in custody.

What is your point? What are you up in arms about exactly?

fart_pickle ,

Now, let’s put this into perspective - gov.uk/…/ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-syste…

If you want to provide data, do it as a whokr, not what fits your point of view.

sazey ,

What are you pointing to exactly in that lengthy report pal? Graphic below seems pretty much on par with what person previous to you was saying.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/1e2ed387-fe16-4a77-bbb0-84addfc3d5e5.png

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

indigenous population

Which ones are indigenous, the ones that came over with the Celts, the ones that came over with the Romans, the ones that came over with the Angles and Saxons, the ones that came over with the Norman French… or are we talking about the hunter-gatherers displaced by the Celts here? Do we need to test some DNA?

Transporter_Room_3 ,
@Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

What percentage of their DNA is from Homo Neanderthalensis?

Annoyed_Crabby ,

It’s rich coming from a country that used to colonize all across the world, displace and genocide indigenous people, exploit the country’s resource, divide and conquering the people of their colony, and even deliberately causing famine. Even the decolonization aren’t due to good will but simply running out of money. Now a lonewolf knife attack by an immigrant and they’re bitching about their indigenous people’s safety. My country were colonized by British and their divide and conquer tactic is still pretty much alive right now. Apologies for that, bitch.

chuckleslord ,

When you’re goose-stepping around town, do you have to keep a mouth guard just in your mouth the whole time, or do you discretely pocket it until the day inevitably turns on you? I’ve always wanted to know and never got to talk to an actual out-and-out fascist before. Ya know, you suspect some people, but you’re just brave enough to come out and say it.

But seriously, leave lemmy and don’t come back. Thanks!

wolfylow ,

I think this is what happens when mainstream political parties legitimise this kind of anti-immigrant rhetoric.

Everyone is pointing at social media, what about Sunak/Braverman/Patel? Not to mention the odious Farage.

I lay a lot of the blame at their feet.

And also - I realise it makes no sense (the perpetrator is British born!) but as has so often been said: You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into. So yeah, here we are. Madness.

FelixCress ,

I still remember what my grandfather who fought in WW2 told me: “You don’t speak to nazis. You shoot nazis.”

cyborganism ,

This is a touchy situation. In England, like in France, there’s been increasing cases of acts of armed aggression, violence and terrorism from extremist Islamist groups. There is a lot of Islamic radicalization happening in Muslim communities.

It’s a real concern for public safety and people have grown tired of living in fear of the next attack.

There were neighborhoods in cities in both of these countries that if you’re a non Muslim or if you don’t follow the strict rules like women wearing headscarves, you get harassed and attacked.

This anger wasn’t born just out of thin air or only racism.

However, the root cause for this radicalization comes from two things: the frustration from Muslims facing discrimination in the UK and France and colonialism and conflicts in Muslim countries where the UK and France are involved. When Muslims get treated differently at school, face racism, can’t find jobs are their needs are not being met, you get frustration and anger and it gets exploited by bad influences.

saltesc ,

I think it’s fine to be pissed off about any religion, especially if it’s bringing harm and unrest to a community/culture. Historically kind of religion’s thing…

But the second anyone brings ethnicity into it…

cyborganism ,

Well with Islam and ethnicity, they’re very closely tied together to a point that criticism of Islam is often perceived as racism. That’s a big problem.

SuckMyWang ,

It’s a lie. Just like being anti Zionist is racist. It’s not. Can happily critisize problematic teachings of religious doctrines while having zero problems with a person of that race who also disagrees with the doctrine.

cyborganism ,

I know it is. I’m totally on your side.

Mrkawfee ,

These far right roots are rioting because of bullshit. The murderer wasn’t Muslim but the fascists still used that fake pretext to stir up trouble.

cyborganism ,

Yes, I’ve heard about what happened and you’re absolutely right. That event and that hate group sparked those riots based on misinformation. And no, all Muslims shouldn’t be demonized and protested against. If anything, it’s only going to worsen the situation.

I was just stating the facts about the reality in France and the UK regarding the issues they’re been facing with radicalized Islamists that have been growing in numbers and causing violent agressions and terrorist attacks. It’s a real issue.

Maggoty ,

This was absolutely born out of of racism and propaganda. The guy who did it is from Wales. They rioted because they were told he was an immigrant.

And yes there are bad parts in any city that harass women. That’s why they prefer the bear. It has nothing to do with being an immigrant or not.

cyborganism ,

I’m not denying that at all. I completely agree. But we can’t deny that the terrorist attacks that happened in the past didn’t help either.

Maggoty ,

Sure, but one terrorist attack does not justify another. And crime stats just don’t support this idea of immigrant criminality.

Maggoty ,

Holy shit these early comments. Who the fuck rang the bell over at Racists R Us?

thecam ,
@thecam@lemmy.world avatar

The police should be worried about them “fiery but mostly peaceful protestors”, not anything that is labelled as “right wing”.

Why9 ,

Ok, let’s compare, shall we?

Millions of people out protesting over the murder of thousands of children in Gaza, and protesting the UK’s complicity in those crimes by directly sending weapons to Israel. No crimes committed, no riots, no disorder. There were a couple who held up flags and inflammatory symbols or shouted crude slogans and they went peacefully when they were arrested.

Thousands of children murdered, peaceful protest.

In contrast, a far-right counter protest against the Palestine march in London ends with the thugs clashing with police, being violent and causing damage politico.eu/…/uk-far-right-football-hooligans-bla…

Recently, 3 girls brutally and abhorrently murdered in Southport, but EDL thugs who honestly couldn’t care less about the victims and just wanted a scrap, took to the streets and torched police vehicles, injured many offers. The perpetrator ended up being a Christian, and yet the EDL mob went and targeted a mosque.

3 children murdered, outright anarchy.

EDL have proven that they’re just in it for the fight. They just want blood and they don’t care what the trigger is. Absolutely pathetic. They piss about in school, get bugger all in the way of grades and end up at the building site, blaming immigrants for their troubles. Spineless knobgobblers, the lot of them.

ogmios ,
@ogmios@sh.itjust.works avatar

Really? It’s the far right they’re worried about?

cRazi_man ,

I don’t know anything about the situation. What should they be worried about?

ogmios ,
@ogmios@sh.itjust.works avatar

From what I’ve been hearing, a lot of groups that aren’t exactly considered part of the traditional left/right political divide.

YeetPics ,

Groups like?..

SkunkWorkz ,

English Defence League, bunch of Nazis.

wanderer ,

The English Defence League are a far-right, Islamophobic organisation in England.

So, they should be worried about the far right.

BuddyTheBeefalo OP ,

independent.co.uk/…/sunderland-riot-latest-southp…

Gsus4 ,
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I know the far left also riots, but this time it’s the far right…

thecam ,
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