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cyborganism ,

This is a touchy situation. In England, like in France, there’s been increasing cases of acts of armed aggression, violence and terrorism from extremist Islamist groups. There is a lot of Islamic radicalization happening in Muslim communities.

It’s a real concern for public safety and people have grown tired of living in fear of the next attack.

There were neighborhoods in cities in both of these countries that if you’re a non Muslim or if you don’t follow the strict rules like women wearing headscarves, you get harassed and attacked.

This anger wasn’t born just out of thin air or only racism.

However, the root cause for this radicalization comes from two things: the frustration from Muslims facing discrimination in the UK and France and colonialism and conflicts in Muslim countries where the UK and France are involved. When Muslims get treated differently at school, face racism, can’t find jobs are their needs are not being met, you get frustration and anger and it gets exploited by bad influences.

saltesc ,

I think it’s fine to be pissed off about any religion, especially if it’s bringing harm and unrest to a community/culture. Historically kind of religion’s thing…

But the second anyone brings ethnicity into it…

cyborganism ,

Well with Islam and ethnicity, they’re very closely tied together to a point that criticism of Islam is often perceived as racism. That’s a big problem.

Mrkawfee ,

These far right roots are rioting because of bullshit. The murderer wasn’t Muslim but the fascists still used that fake pretext to stir up trouble.

thecam ,
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The police should be worried about them “fiery but mostly peaceful protestors”, not anything that is labelled as “right wing”.

Why9 ,

Ok, let’s compare, shall we?

Millions of people out protesting over the murder of thousands of children in Gaza, and protesting the UK’s complicity in those crimes by directly sending weapons to Israel. No crimes committed, no riots, no disorder. There were a couple who held up flags and inflammatory symbols or shouted crude slogans and they went peacefully when they were arrested.

Thousands of children murdered, peaceful protest.

In contrast, a far-right counter protest against the Palestine march in London ends with the thugs clashing with police, being violent and causing damage politico.eu/…/uk-far-right-football-hooligans-bla…

Recently, 3 girls brutally and abhorrently murdered in Southport, but EDL thugs who honestly couldn’t care less about the victims and just wanted a scrap, took to the streets and torched police vehicles, injured many offers. The perpetrator ended up being a Christian, and yet the EDL mob went and targeted a mosque.

3 children murdered, outright anarchy.

EDL have proven that they’re just in it for the fight. They just want blood and they don’t care what the trigger is. Absolutely pathetic. They piss about in school, get bugger all in the way of grades and end up at the building site, blaming immigrants for their troubles. Spineless knobgobblers, the lot of them.

fart_pickle ,

It’s funny how indigenous population who’s scared about their wellbeing is called “far-right”. Focus on stabbings, rapes and other pressing issues.

blackn1ght , (edited )

Funny how there was no rage when Lucy Letby was found guilty or that guy who very recently murdered the mother and daughters with a crossbow.

itslilith ,
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“scared about their well-being”

sure, buddy

Why9 ,

Indigenous population scared about their wellbeing? Wellbeing from what? What possible threat has the indigenous population faced recently that you need to be all up in arms about it?

This is a report on Gov.uk

In 2022/23, white individuals accounted for 78% of arrests, 8% were of black individuals, 8% were of Asian individuals, 4% were of mixed ethnicity individuals and 2% were of other ethnicity individuals

In 2022, 77% of all males prosecuted for indictable offences were from the white ethnic group, compared to 86% of all females prosecuted

Since 2018, white defendants have had a consistently lower average custodial sentence length (ASCL) than all other ethnic groups combined for indictable offences.

Black prisoners served the greatest proportion of their original sentence in custody.

What is your point? What are you up in arms about exactly?

fart_pickle ,

Now, let’s put this into perspective - gov.uk/…/ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-syste…

If you want to provide data, do it as a whokr, not what fits your point of view.

FlyingSquid ,
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indigenous population

Which ones are indigenous, the ones that came over with the Celts, the ones that came over with the Romans, the ones that came over with the Angles and Saxons, the ones that came over with the Norman French… or are we talking about the hunter-gatherers displaced by the Celts here? Do we need to test some DNA?

Transporter_Room_3 ,
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What percentage of their DNA is from Homo Neanderthalensis?

ogmios ,
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Really? It’s the far right they’re worried about?

cRazi_man ,

I don’t know anything about the situation. What should they be worried about?

ogmios ,
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From what I’ve been hearing, a lot of groups that aren’t exactly considered part of the traditional left/right political divide.

YeetPics ,

Groups like?..

SkunkWorkz ,

English Defence League, bunch of Nazis.

wanderer ,

The English Defence League are a far-right, Islamophobic organisation in England.

So, they should be worried about the far right.

BuddyTheBeefalo OP ,

independent.co.uk/…/sunderland-riot-latest-southp…

Gsus4 ,
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I know the far left also riots, but this time it’s the far right…

thecam ,
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