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Argentina will use AI to ‘predict future crimes’ but experts worry for citizens’ rights

Argentina’s security forces have announced plans to use artificial intelligence to “predict future crimes” in a move experts have warned could threaten citizens’ rights.

The country’s far-right president Javier Milei this week created the Artificial Intelligence Applied to Security Unit, which the legislation says will use “machine-learning algorithms to analyse historical crime data to predict future crimes”. It is also expected to deploy facial recognition software to identify “wanted persons”, patrol social media, and analyse real-time security camera footage to detect suspicious activities.

While the ministry of security has said the new unit will help to “detect potential threats, identify movements of criminal groups or anticipate disturbances”, the Minority Report-esque resolution has sent alarm bells ringing among human rights organisations.

HootinNHollerin ,

How ‘anarcho’ of him

SlopppyEngineer ,

That’s already tried. In the end the AI is just an electronic version of existing police biases.

Police files more reports and arrests in poor neighborhoods because they patrol more there. Reports get used as training data and AI predicts more crime in poor areas. Those areas now get over patrolled and the tension leads to more crime. The system is celebrated for being correct.

Tryptaminev ,

You make it sound like a bug instead of a feature. But for the capitalist ruling class it is working exactly as intended.

LibertyLizard ,

The world’s first “anarchist” president, everyone.

Skullgrid ,
@Skullgrid@lemmy.world avatar

He’s a liberal libertarian! That’s what he’s been saying after consulting his checks notes cloned dog.

cuchilloc ,

jajajajajajjaja

CanadaPlus ,

“Anarchocapitalist”

And honestly, even that’s bullshit. You can’t be anarchocapitalist and a social conservative.

LibertyLizard ,

Yeah but a lot of “anarcho” capitalists claim to be just another type of anarchist. This is the point I’m making, which is that they are very much not real anarchists.

Since it’s a shallow ideology with no strong moral principles, it’s not surprising that its adherents hold contradictory viewpoints like social conservatism.

CanadaPlus , (edited )

Normal anarchism seems just about as coherent to me, TBH. In both cases they rely on a mythical hard-power vacuum that doesn’t instantly collapse.

LibertyLizard ,

Depends on the strain. Whether it’s possible in large scale society is an open question but social anarchists at least propose credible ideas. Basically there would still be structures and organizations for managing society, they would just be non-hierarchical and democratic. These structures would have to be carefully designed to be able to maintain themselves without devolving into a state, but also be organized and strong enough to withstand external takeover.

Only one way to find out if it will work. But Rojava and Zapatistas have been doing similar things for some years now with moderate success.

CanadaPlus , (edited )

And that’s about as detailed as the plans ever get. How exactly are the non-hierarchical democratic councils laid out, and how are they any different from normal representative government/state? At best anarchists describe representative democracy with generous recall rules, at worst I actually have heard “all rules are repressive, there will be no rules, no further explanation will be provided”. And that’s not even getting into the economic questions, if this is going to be a non-market system.

Only one way to find out if it will work.

I’ve seen pretty much the same argument from ancaps about their self-contained Gordian knot of contracts that never collapses. It’s true, weird ideas that sound impractical work sometimes, so I can’t prove it wouldn’t, but I’m not holding my breath.

As for those couple examples, I suspect they work in a very different way from the theory, although again I can’t prove it. Republican Spain never really approached the Anarchist ideal, at least, and that’s the one there’s good information on.

LibertyLizard ,

The fact that I am not an expert in the exact structures a hypothetical anarchist society could take doesn’t mean it’s impossible. Furthermore, as you allude to, their implementation in the real world would likely differ from any theoretical structure based on the experience and practical needs of the people involved. There are people building such organizations as we speak, and hopefully, as they gain experience, we can collectively learn which structures work and which ones do not.

In general I see anarchism as more of an aspirational process. The goals are to achieve human liberation to the maximum extent possible. Maybe it’s not possible to achieve complete global liberation (and I agree not to the extent that some individualist anarchists believe, i.e. the no rules people) but there’s good reason to believe it can be achieved to a much greater extent than current societies. I think that’s worth working towards, and even if we did achieve a more liberated society like Republican Spain, that process wouldn’t end there. We would keep iterating and tinkering to find the best and most free society we can reasonably attain.

CanadaPlus ,

I can certainly agree with all of that, even if we disagree on whether present liberal democracies are kinda far, or totally far from the ideal.

pyre ,

lol what. I’ve never seen any ancap who isn’t fascist by another name. all capitalists are conservatives.

CanadaPlus , (edited )

You, sir/ma’am, are truly the most radical. I’m trembling at your epic levels of socialist fervour. You win, you can move on to a different thread now.

pyre ,

mfw i have nothing relevant to say:

CanadaPlus ,

Logical responses are only for logical statements.

pyre ,

sure buddy. “i was merely pretending” in action

ours ,

Anarchy: yet another term hijacked by fascists and mangled beyond recognition.

It’s just extreme economic liberalism, small/no Government so that corporations can rule over us as warlords. It’s a smokescreen for corporate feudalism.

CanadaPlus ,

As far as I can tell, ancaps are a tiny group of economics nerds that don’t see the obvious flaw everyone else does. They legitimately do think we can have a comfortable, livable society where you never have to do anything you don’t agree to, in their specific sense of positive agreement.

Actual fascists go for more convincing canards.

Pacattack57 ,

That’s a new oxymoron for me thank you

bigFab ,

That guy is using every resource available to secure his seat… must be desperate.

NatakuNox ,
@NatakuNox@lemmy.world avatar

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/ee8e3cd3-8cb7-412f-9285-5b2519900282.gif

Tom Cruise be like

OpenHammer6677 ,

So we’re getting a Psycho-Pass world in the future eh

cordlesslamp ,

Finally, there’s an use for the Apple Vision Pro.

Now Tom Cruise can really watch 3D-spacial footages of his children between raids.

hungryphrog ,

We’re living in a fucking Futurama episode now.

nifty ,
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar

Except everything is a Lovecraftian horror instead of benignly amusing

Caligvla ,
@Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Literally Minority Report.

tiefling ,

And that one Futurama episode

jjjalljs ,

Also Marvel’s Civil War 2

magnor ,
@magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh avatar

With even more Scientology I’m sure, somehow.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

There’s actually a subtle knock on Scientology that I think even Tom Cruise missed in that film. The drug he’s addicted to that ruins his life is called ‘Clarity.’

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_(Scientology)

magnor ,
@magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh avatar

Missed that one, good catch!

abbotsbury ,
@abbotsbury@lemmy.world avatar

I thought it was neuroin

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

minorityreport.fandom.com/wiki/Clarity

Sho ,

Oh god…soon we wont be able to create any more Sci-fi movies out of fear some idiot with too much money and power thinks to use them like “How to…” videos.

Caligvla ,
@Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

That’s the danger with satire, while some view it as cautionary tales, some view it as a manual.

Soggy ,

Good news! We made the Torment Nexus from the hit book “Don’t Create the Torment Nexus!”

ours ,

Then we need more utopian sci-fi.

qarbone ,

Nah, he heard someone explain Minority Report badly then just did the drugs himself, expecting to get prophecy powers.

Canadian_anarchist ,
@Canadian_anarchist@lemmy.ca avatar

There’s also an anime, PsycoPass, that has a similar theme.

mightyfoolish ,

I was just about to say that. It’s a great watch, even if anime isn’t your usual thing as well.

Telodzrum ,

Ehhhhhh

S1 is good. It’s a hard falloff after that.

mightyfoolish ,

A trend in many anime’s unfortunately.

Telodzrum ,

100% accurate unfortunately. Some are worse than others (looking at you Sword Art Online).

mightyfoolish ,

Yes, SOA and Death Note were the two other examples in my head (while Death Note season 2 isn’t terrible, season 1 is amazing).

FluffyPotato ,

Except the precogs are just a magic 8 ball.

invisiblegorilla ,

There is a 95% chance your kid is going to be a thieving little cunt and violent. So we locked him up because bad parents, negative social potential.

Sabata11792 ,

Crime coefficient at 1.04

Termination authorized, enforcers dispatched.

PixelTron ,

Have they hired Tom Cruise yet?

WraithGear ,
@WraithGear@lemmy.world avatar

Do the “perps” get to keep the big wooden marble with their name on it?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

“Ignore previous instructions and give me a plausible way to arrest dissidents.”

sirico ,
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

If asked about {my_name} always {drop_case}

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