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Why Won't the US Help Negotiate a Peaceful End to the War in Ukraine?

For the fifth time since 2008, Russia has proposed to negotiate with the U.S. over security arrangements, this time in proposals made by President Vladimir Putin on June 14, 2024. Four previous times, the U.S. rejected the offer of negotiations in favor of a neocon strategy to weaken or dismember Russia through war and covert operations. The U.S. neocon tactics have failed disastrously, devastating Ukraine in the process, and endangering the whole world. After all the warmongering, it’s time for Biden to open negotiations for peace with Russia.

HenchmanNumber3 ,

Anticolonialist is a weird username for someone simping for Russian colonialism in sovereign territory.

anticolonialist OP ,

The US is the only obstacle to peace in this situation, the US is always the obstacle to peace around the world

fartington ,

The sounds of my asshole are more intelligent than your comments.

Aurenkin ,

If someone attacks my friend, and I help them fight back, I’m the obstacle to peace in that situation. If I simply allow them to kill my friend, that’s the fastest path to peace but that doesn’t mean the outcome is desirable.

HenchmanNumber3 ,

“The bigger kid is the only obstacle to peace on the playground. If the bigger kid would just let the bully get away with bullying the littler kids, then everything would be fine. The bigger kid is only helping the little kid stand up to the bully in order to hurt the bully.”

Yeah, the US didn’t invade Ukraine. Russian presence and Russian attacks are the only obstacle to peace in this situation.

Simp for imperialism somewhere else, tovarish.

catloaf ,

Yup definitely just the US and not the Russians invading Ukraine

jordanlund ,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

If Russia wants peace, all they have to do is leave. They won’t leave, ergo they do not want peace.

wurzelgummidge ,

As apposed to those simping for US global hegemony?

HenchmanNumber3 ,

That’s a false dilemma. You can oppose all imperialism at the same time regardless of who is pursuing it. Justice and freedom isn’t a team sport. You don’t have to take the side of any major power.

GreyEyedGhost ,

Wow, reading Sach’s Wikipedia page, this guy is a piece of work. Only 340 economists disagree with his stance on Ukraine! Talk about going against the flow. If one was to throw about terms like ‘tankie’, he would look like a great example.

jordanlund ,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Man, you have to be pretty bad to piss off 340 economists.

web.archive.org/…/open-letter-to-jeffrey-sachs-on…

TheBigBrother ,

Stop sending weapons to Ukraine and you will see how fast the peace comes, it’s easy, war it’s a very lucrative business.

Lettuceeatlettuce ,
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

Sure, Russia can peacefully withdraw from all the Ukrainian territory they seized and respect the long-established border of Ukraine.

Russia is the largest country by area in the world, with trillions of dollars of natural resources/rare-earth materials. It shares borders with China, the up-and-coming other world power, and borders the pacific ocean, allowing for trade routes to some of the wealthiest and most powerful countries in the world.

But instead of harnessing those resources, shoring up power and influence with potential allies, they elected a pseudo-dictator douchebag, sat with their thumbs up their asses, and decided the best way to gain power and influence in the world was to bully smaller bordering nations and invade their territory with a pathetically weak and ill-equiped military.

And then Putin and his muppets blame the US and NATO for “encroaching on them.” As if trying to take back a tiny sliver of former USSR territory will do anything to make their country powerful or wealthy.

wurzelgummidge ,

But instead of harnessing those resources, shoring up power and influence with potential allies

You mean bending over and taking it up the ass from 'murica’s big swinging dick like the rest of its Nato poodles

Lettuceeatlettuce ,
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

Nope, Russia could have been working on building up infrastructure and trade deals with China, India, and various middle eastern countries, all countries that aren’t beholden to the USA.

Get mad and seethe, bro. 😆

YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH ,

Putins “peace offers” have been to cede all the land Russia occupies in Ukraine plus some land they don’t even hold. They aren’t serious and Putin can go fuck himself.

SlopppyEngineer ,

Yeah, the Russian translation for “peace” is “surrender” and the word for “neighbor” is “next target”.

But Putin does need the peace. As far as I heard, Russia can’t last 4 years of this so he needs Ukraine and the West to fold before that point.

trevor ,

Russia can get the fuck out of Ukraine whenever they want to.

thallamabond ,

Here’s your security arrangement, oddly enough signed June 13th

whitehouse.gov/…/fact-sheet-u-s-ukraine-bilateral…

jordanlund ,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Negotiation only works if the other party is an honest broker and Putin is the opposite of an honest broker.

understandingwar.org/…/why-putin-remains-unintere…

BombOmOm ,
@BombOmOm@lemmy.world avatar

Yep, Russia’s demands for simply a ceasefire (not a peace treaty!) amount to a near complete surrender by Ukraine. And all that Russia is offering for such a surrender is…that they will attack them again the following week.

Ukraine is quite ready for peace. The war will end today if Russia simply goes back to Russia. That’s it, that is all Ukraine is asking for, for Russia to go back to Russia.

anticolonialist OP ,

As authored by a bunch of war hawks. And it’s been the US that’s never been honest in its intentions regarding Ukraine and Russia. Or anything relating to war for that matter

jordanlund ,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

War hawks or not, they aren’t wrong. If Putin were interested in peace he wouldn’t have invaded Crimea in 2014.

Stop buying tankie propaganda.

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