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Tenacious D’s Newcastle show postponed after comment about Trump assassination attempt

The latest show on Tenacious D’s Australian tour has been postponed after senator Ralph Babet demanded the pair be deported following an apparent joke about the assassination attempt on Donald Trump.

American comedy rock duo Jack Black and Kyle Gass were due to perform in Newcastle on Tuesday evening, but the show – part of the band’s Spicy Meatball Tour – was cancelled without notice on Tuesday afternoon.

Concert promoter Frontier Touring said on social media that it regretted “to advise that Tenacious D’s concert tonight at Newcastle Entertainment Centre has been postponed”.

Video from the event showed (Kyle) Gass being presented with a birthday cake and told to “make a wish” as he blew out the candles. Gass then appeared to say “don’t miss Trump next time” – just hours after the shooting at Trump’s rally in Pennsylvania that left the former president injured.

abbadon420 ,

They should write a song about this whole affair

Clbull ,

Postponed is kinda inaccurate…

  1. Kyle Gass’s talent agent has cut ties with him.
  2. Jack Black made a statement on Instagram to announce the tour’s cancellation and that any future Tenacious D projects were on hold indefinitely, stating that he was “blindsided” by what Kyle said and that he condemend any calls for political violence.
  3. Tenacious D were big promoters of Rock the Vote, a nonpartisan organisation dedicated to encouraging more young people to register and exercise their right to vote, to the point of planning a campus tour in partnership with them. Can’t really appear nonpartisan if you (even jokingly) wish for a presidential nominee and former US president to be assassinated.
  4. Black had a lot more to lose from this than Gass, since he’s the one with an actual Hollywood film career.
Hackworth ,

I did not mean…

scarabic ,

Crude humor from Tenacious D? I was led to believe this was a family show!

Etterra ,

I may not care about their music, but I support them. DJT and all of his frothingly mad followers are the whole reason that the violence and anger have wildly increased out of control in the first place. As far as I’m concerned, this is just them reaping what they’ve sown.

febra ,

Oh no political violence is so bad!

Go tell that the bombed out kids in Afghanistan and to all the innocents from all over the world. Cry me a river, cause I won’t shed a tear over a self proclaimed wannabe dictator. You get what you sow.

Shampiss ,

The point here is not that this comment hurts trump in some way. But that it hurts democracy. It favors violence over reason.

Many believe that the world might be better if trump was dead, but on the other side, if assassination is an acceptable solution to politics then democracy is destroyed.

The people that are against Trump are also against fascism. And supporting his murder is contradictory and essentially hurts your own cause.

Choosing to be fair and respectful to your enemy is the best course of action. Even though it might be extremely frustrating.

febra ,

I don’t trust neoliberal democracy. It has killed far too many innocents all across the world, so I personally don’t care, but I understand if others do.

UltraGiGaGigantic ,

It’s me…

No KG.

No me

Tenacious deeeeeeeeheeee

FordBeeblebrox ,

Happy Birthday Kyle

Keep on rockin! 🤘

catsarebadpeople ,

I’m sure all the fans that wanted to go to the show will be very thankful to the senator for cancelling the show at the last minute for political reasons. Free speech must not be allowed in Australia

OceanSoap ,

Free speech isn’t a constitutional right in Australia, or in most places. Conservative voices have been blocked from Australia before. In 2019 it was that Milo guy, and I think Lauren Southern was banned from the UK?

the_strange ,

Free speech isn’t a constitutional right in Australia

…gov.au/…/freedom-information-opinion-and-express…

I am not very well versed in Australian law, but this indicates to me that free speech is indeed protected in Australia.

Lauren Southern was banned from the UK?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Southern

She’s a far-right racist conspiracy theorist nutjob who was denied entry into the UK for spewing hatred. Her right to express herself ends where other people’s rights for freedom, health and safety begin.

digdilem ,

I am not very well versed in Australian law, but this indicates to me that free speech is indeed protected in Australia.

It aims to, but it is not a right.

See the two exclusions on the page you linked.

blocked when…

( a ) For respect of the rights or reputations of others; ( b ) For the protection of national security or of public order, or of public health or morals.

In this case, public order may be considered valid, although my personal view is that it wasn’t.

In Australia, humour has a long history of bad taste, but a longer history of religious repression through law. Think 1960s America - that describes much of Australian rural culture, with extra bad language. (Although NSW was a lot more tolerant when I travelled around the country)

In the UK, free speech is not possible either. See D-notices, and later super-injunctions to stop media and individuals reporting on facts.

the_strange ,

In the UK, free speech is not possible either. See D-notices, and later super-injunctions to stop media and individuals reporting on facts.

Please provide examples.

digdilem ,

Sure, although google does the heavy lifting as I’ve given the strings.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Notice

www.studysmarter.co.uk/…/super-injunction/

vodkasolution ,

( a ) For respect of the rights or reputations of others

So you can’t just insult someone, that’s not bad

JustZ , (edited )
@JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

That’s about defamation and privacy, we have the same law in America. The First Amendment doesn’t protect defamatory speech or speech that infringes on recognized privacy rights, such as the right to self publicity, the right to be free of misappropriation of name or likeness, etc.

vodkasolution ,

Hoping a shooter would have killed someone, even Trump, is - not even borderline - hate speech, I don’t get it. Jack is right. And US laws mean nothing outside US

Zaktor ,

“Hate speech” isn’t a ban on being able to vocally hate individual people.

OceanSoap ,

Nope, see others commenting below.

And my point was, you can’t be surprised that conservatives turn around and do what the left does to them when they have the chance to. That’s why I was so against Dems ousting Trump supporters from their jobs, because I knew they would turn around and do the same if/when they had the chance.

It’s why we have to be very careful about any laws we pass when Dems are in power. Power will always swing back to Republicans at some point, and you’re fucking crazy if you think they’re not going to use those same laws to repress their political opponents

EatATaco ,

Not that I think the concert should have been cancelled. . .but isn’t asking for someone to be killed “spewing hatred”? Isn’t asking for them to actually be shot infringing on their “health and safety.” This is “if the shoe is on the other foot” example for me, it doesn’t appear that their ban was unjustified, or her ban was unjustified. Although, it probably doesn’t even really count because we are talking about two different countries here.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

The senator didn’t cancel the show, they don’t have that sort of authority.

catsarebadpeople ,

Obviously the senator didn’t literally cancel the show. They just made it happen by creating fake outrage.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

He’s the only senator for his party UAP, no one gives a shit about him.

Shit the party he represents doesn’t even actually exist as they de-registered in 2022.

He’s jumping on outrage to get his name printed in a paper, it doesn’t mean people actually do what he says.

catsarebadpeople ,

Are you claiming that he didn’t help create or spread this outrage? Even if that was true, which it’s not, why would it matter when the article that this post is about points to him directly? Not sure why you’re so adamantly making this point. What’s your goal?

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

Yes he did not help create this outrage, as for spreading it, no more than any of the other idiots who probably shared something on social media. This nobody is not as influential as you seem to think he is.

As for why the media is mentioning it? Because making up drama sells.

My goal is to point out that they cancelled the tour themselves. And to fix your misconception about how important this politician is. This whole story would have played out exactly the same with or without Babet, in fact many news articles on this don’t even mention him.

catsarebadpeople ,

Ok gotcha. He’s officially not very important!

Hobbes ,

I like jack black, but seriously fuck him for this and for not taking a stand against fascism.

extremeboredom ,

What do you want him to do, exactly?

DarkNightoftheSoul ,
@DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz avatar

Given the plain meaning of the words they said, it sounds like they want jack black to take a stand against fascism.

edit: also maybe to fuck him, that seems like a valid interpretation.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

Not throw his partner under the bus? Go out there and be the Tenacious D we know and make rock history. Instead he cowers behind a PR statement.

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

Tenacious D … ixie Chicks

mombutt_long_and_low ,

“First Amendment rights for me, but not for thee.”

CableMonster ,

I thought we were going with “freedom of speech not freedom from consequences”?

girlfreddy OP ,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

This was in Australia, who don’t have a First Amendment.

Raiderkev ,

Oh I’m sorry, I thought this was America!

Gradually_Adjusting ,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

This joke turned my whole day around

EdgeOfDistraction ,

We don’t have free speech in our constitution, but we have protection of free speech in common law, unless it’s explicitly banned by legislation, like some hate speech is.

EatATaco ,

I would think asking for someone to be shot is kind of hate speech. Even in the US where there is explicitly free speech, that could get you arrested if it was believed it incited someone to actually do it. Like Trump did not attack the capitol that day, but he certainly should be held accountable for inciting it with his speech.

JustZ ,
@JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

Big difference between an offhand comment at a comedy concert and having a sitting president invite an assemblage of men for the purpose of “taking back the country,” especially when Trump and his cronies were part of a conspiracy to overthrow the government known as the 1776 plan..

Making an offhand remark at a comedy show without any imminent means or opportunity to act on the threat doesn’t create an illegal conspiracy. It’s not even a threat, as it totally lacks imminence. On January 6, Trump threatened the capital, the vice president, the Congress, the supreme Court, and the state department, while he stood before an angry mob, hundreds of steps away from these targets.

The only reason that coup attempt failed is because Trump was unable to convince a secret service and capital police to remove their metal detectors from the mall. Now they have project 2025, which aims to purge the government from anyone such as a secret service or Capitol Police Commander who puts the interests of America before the interests of one orange person.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

Hate speech needs to target a group of people’s.

Hating Trump is fine, he’s not a group of people in need of protection, he’s an individual and being judged for his actions.

FiniteBanjo ,

I’m so glad I watched that video clip that was fucking legendary. HAPPY BIRTHDAY KYLE.

sudo ,

Jacks a sellout. Kyle keeps it real.

aesthelete ,

CANCEL CULTURE!!!

PS: Elon Musk and the rest of the hypocrites can stuff their opinions about how to react to assassination attempts after the way they responded to Nancy Pelosi’s husband being attacked.

MTK ,

I might not be a fascist, but I will fight for your right to be one!

This is where we are at, we are doomed.

At least I’m a minority that will definitely be hunted first so I won’t get to suffer for long.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

Nah Babet’s party are closet fascists.

SupraMario ,

An armed minority is harder to oppress! Arm yourself and train. Don’t be a soft target for them.

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