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MargotRobbie ,
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If you still have the bird app or some other method, send your support of solidarity to your favorite actors. They will definitely appreciate it.

topinambour_rex ,
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What about my favorite studios ?

MargotRobbie ,
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I’m… not sure?

FlyingSquid ,
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Fuck the studios. Go union!

wtvr ,

Oh hi barbie

MargotRobbie ,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

Hi there! Sorry, no movie promotions, I’m on strike.

TendieMaster69 ,

Funny meme, nice AI generated profile picture.

MargotRobbie ,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

If they ever find out about this account I can just deny everything, it’s great, right?

dudebro ,

Glad you guys are fighting so hard to make more money while children go without food and water.

History really does repeat itself and that’s why these problems never get solved.

Snekeyes ,

Well you can’t solve em for sure. All you are is hot air.

dudebro ,

Ok.

MargotRobbie ,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t know what you’re talking about, I’m on strike.

dudebro ,

Good thing you have the excess to be able to strike!

MargotRobbie ,
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Despair is the enemy of progress.

If you insist on being so cynical and hateful that you reject people who are trying to improve society somewhat, then I think you should leave.

dudebro ,

No, I’m not being cynical.

I’m arguing in favor of reducing the disparity in wealth. You’re arguing in favor of exacerbating it.

This is why history continues to repeat itself.

kmkz_ninja ,

So between actors and giant movie studios, you definitely prefer the giant movie studio makes more money while the human beings make less?

Draegur ,

Lol get fucked Hollywood

UNION STRONG ✊

recursivesive ,

While I agree that the compensation has been way too low for the working class, I fucking hate how this is used as an excuse when it hits certain group. “what are we waiting for?” as if the real working class (employees of supermarkets, fast food chains, gas stations, etc) haven’t being fucked in the ass for a long time. But now it “hurts me, let’s have solidarity”. No sympathy for them. Eat shit.

Lenins2ndCat OP ,
@Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world avatar

How exactly is attacking other workers going to help workers?

dudebro ,

Because actors already make way more money on average for a much easier job than most people on the planet.

Children in Burundi deserve more before the people in Hollywood.

kmkz_ninja ,

Children in Burundi should have been born in a country with a high cost of living.

almar_quigley ,

lol, wut? How much do you think the average actor makes? Not everyone is Adam Driver……

dudebro ,

More than most people on the planet while doing a much easier job.

kmkz_ninja ,

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    dudebro ,

    No need for the personal attacks.

    Let’s try and stay civil.

    DragonAce ,

    These big name actors are fighting for the people that are part of SAG that are extras or do stunts who make jack shit from most productions. These people are fighting for members of their union, this has nothing to do with anything else.

    jhymesba ,

    Excellent comment. I’m just going to add some numbers ans a source to it.

    If you’re in the United States and are working as an actor, your income is closer to Minimum Wage than to the big names in the entertainment industry, with wages (not salaries, these people are paid by the hour) ranging from $7.75 up to $36.00, averaging at $15.29. We talk about the big names, but these are the people really being hit. Hollywood execs don’t even want to pay these wages. They’d rather give you a month of wages in order to have access to your voice and face for all time. This is even worse when you factor in that your image might get big…imagine being a fresh face right out of acting college, going in for your first audition, and they say “We like you. We’ll give you $3000 if you just enter our scanning booth and spend an hour saying nonsense lines.” That pays your first month’s rent (barely), but lo and behold, down the road, your likeness is earning the studio execs a cool billion, and you ain’t getting a penny of that, because you signed a contract saying your likeness and voice could be used by them at no compensation for you for all time.

    THAT is a big part of what this strike is about.

    www.indeed.com/career/actor/salaries

    rustyfish ,
    @rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

    What a shit take. Seriously, how is this bad for others? Trying to delegitimise these peoples work shows me you have no idea what you talking about. Do you understand what a class war is?

    You know what? I refuse to believe someone can be this dense. I took the bait, my bad. Troll.

    dudebro ,

    We’re just passing a bunch of money around at the top.

    kmkz_ninja ,

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    dudebro ,

    Yeah, I’m gonna block you.

    You’re clearly too angry to have a conversation about this in a civil manner. Maybe you should think about why you’re angry before taking it out on me.

    Have a nice day.

    GentlemanLoser ,

    Lots of people in this thread think this is about A list actors only apparently

    dudebro ,

    Yeah. It’s only a problem when rich people aren’t making enough money.

    kmkz_ninja ,

    Your slip is showing.

    lohrun ,
    @lohrun@fediverse.boo avatar

    as if the real working class (employees of supermarkets, fast food chains, gas stations, etc)

    White collar and blue collar workers are also part of the real working class. The bottom like 95% of earners are. We need to stop labeling ourselves as different groups and start working together. Doesn’t matter the type of job you have, more than likely you are being severely underpaid and under appreciated.

    GentlemanLoser ,

    Yeah man I don’t have beef with individual millionaires. It’s possible to become a millionaire without stepping on some necks. Billionaire, not so much.

    mindbender444 ,

    Now I can finally catch up with my backlog!

    Lenins2ndCat OP ,
    @Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world avatar

    How’s that boot taste?

    atp2112 ,

    As far as I’m aware, neither of the striking unions have called for a consumer boycott.

    Lenins2ndCat OP ,
    @Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s just kind of disgusting to be saying this shit jovially when people’s lives and families are at stake and actors are publicly threatening to burn down CEO’s homes. It reeks of sociopathic shit having absolutely no empathy or support for what people are going through.

    CeruleanRuin ,

    He clarified his words after some people naturally started to take it a little too literally, but I don’t think he needed to.

    Whoever that “anonymous exec” was who said they wouldn’t even start to negotiate until strikers started losing their homes deserves to be pilloried.

    CeruleanRuin ,

    He clarified his words after some people naturally started to take it a little too literally, but I don’t think he needed to.

    Whoever that “anonymous exec” was who said they wouldn’t even start to negotiate until strikers started losing their homes deserves to be pilloried.

    Lenins2ndCat OP ,
    @Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world avatar

    Pretty sure this walk back is simply because of the legal implications. It’s pretty obvious what he meant.

    Pillory is too nice for them.

    CeruleanRuin ,

    Idunno, the pillory could get pretty brutal if the crowd was sufficiently riled up. It wasn’t uncommon for people to bring stones or bricks.

    orphiebaby ,
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    I don’t know why you got downvoted. Because you watch TV? So what? Either way, I liked your comment!

    kratoz29 ,

    I hope all the industry did that kind of hiatus then (?

    CurlyWurlies4All ,
    @CurlyWurlies4All@prxs.site avatar

    Solidarity ✊

    Hedup ,

    If there’s any silver lining to AI taking over entertainment industry, then that could hopefully be getting rid of celebrity worship.

    driving_crooner ,
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    If the following and drama that vtubers has can teach you something, is that celebrity worshipping is not going anywhere.

    speck ,

    Generated, Cartoon characters are already being worshipped, for sure this won't be a big leap

    topperharlie ,

    honestly, I can see this only affecting the little guy like always, big stars probably can afford to lawyer up and earn money for the AI usage of their image. Not to mention that adding extras in the background is many times easier to get away with rather than the main character

    LemmyExplain ,

    People will just transition to worshipping celebrity AIs. I for one welcome our new AI overlords…

    orphiebaby ,
    @orphiebaby@lemmy.world avatar

    Celebrity worship in some form or another will never go away.

    keeb420 ,

    id rather have ai producers and studio execs than ai actors.

    vimdiesel ,

    This is a bad take. Smooth brained people like to worship -something- whether it’s a deity, a politician, an actor, or an AI character. Only the faces change, it’s the same old situation.

    WanderingPoltergeist ,
    @WanderingPoltergeist@kbin.social avatar

    Good, I hope more join in and walk until Hollywood caves...They won't like this negative attention. 😁

    VentraSqwal ,

    It’s too bad the directors guild already made that deal.

    Capricorny90210 ,

    What do you mean?

    Capricorny90210 ,

    What do you mean?

    LetMeEatCake ,

    The DGA ratified an agreement last month. If they hadn’t, we would have three major video unions on strike instead of two.

    Capricorny90210 ,

    Gotcha. Thanks!

    Tygr ,

    I’ve been “striking” for a long time now, against junk TV in general. There’s an occasional awesome show that delivers but 95% of it is low-effort junk TV like dating, survival, cooking and other shows like it.

    I haven’t had live TV in years and it’s quite shocking to see what the average user deals with. Junk TV + ads that play 30% of the time is absolutely insane.

    JJROKCZ ,

    Hey now! Some of us like the cooking shows lol

    Tygr ,

    Yeah. I’ll watch an occasional Gordon Ramsay here and there. I’m more referring to the baking shows, kids cooking shows and similar. But you know what I mean, replace all variants of cooking with the many variants of home improvement, how many do we need?

    JJROKCZ ,

    Yea there are simply too many, they’ve flooded the airways with a lot of garbage instead of a small amount of quality that reruns

    HeartyBeast ,
    @HeartyBeast@kbin.social avatar

    low-effort junk TV like dating, survival, cooking and other shows like it.

    ... in other words, exactly the shows that don't use actors or writers

    speck ,

    Huh. When you put it that way...

    tryptaminev ,

    Dont they also have writers on these? With most of it being scripted and dramatized, sbd. gotta make all this stuff up. Also the whole set-up the catch etc. I thought these were done by writers too.

    reev ,

    I don’t know how other companies work, but I work at a company that produces a lot of reality TV shows. They definitely have writers that will lead the direction that the shows take (for example challenge ideas for a dating show or maybe bow they deliver hints to a blind customer cooking show) and they’ll have some leading questions in interviews (or even asking to phrase things for more drama if the contestants want to and they usually say yes) but you’d be surprised at how unscripted the ones we produce are.

    bobman ,

    I actually think the movies they star in and write are shit too.

    Just looking at the list of movies held up by the strike makes me weep with joy.

    Glad greedy shitbags who make nothing but garbage are fighting each other.

    blivet ,
    @blivet@kbin.social avatar

    I haven’t had live TV in years and it’s quite shocking to see what the average user deals with. Junk TV + ads that play 30% of the time is absolutely insane.

    Yeah, I’ve had the same experience. We don’t have live TV, and when we occasionally hang out with friends or family who do I’m always flabbergasted at the frequency and length of ad breaks nowadays, and similarly amazed that despite a nearly endless list of channels there never seems to be anything I actively want to watch.

    leapingleopard ,

    I can’t believe the people that allow commercials to blare in their living rooms without diving for the remote control like the house is on fire. Is it just me? and they just continue normal conversation like it’s somehow possible to hear them.

    keeb420 ,

    sometimes its nice to have background noise.

    most of the time though im with you though.

    lumcos ,

    diving for the remote control like the house is on fire

    lol this is me, it’s not just you 😂

    Our house is generally on the quieter side. Partly because some of us are on the spectrum, and partly because we like to actually hear each other when we converse. Haven’t paid for TV in years, don’t miss it.

    AbidanYre ,

    Bruce was talking about it 30 years ago when we had 57 channels and nothin’ on. It’s only gotten worse since then.

    UlfKirsten ,

    Bruce?

    Streetdog ,
    @Streetdog@lemmy.world avatar

    Bruce Wayne

    timetraveller ,

    I had one of them first TiVos, then upgraded to them expanded versions modes online for 1TB of shows. The 30-second skip button pressed six(6) times would effectively (skip) the ads. Never looked back. When I see or hear a commercial at someone’s house it rocks me like I’m in a different dimension and time.

    FlashMobOfOne ,
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    Personally I rarely watch TV in real time, so the only time of year I ever really see commercials is during the NFL season.

    keeb420 ,

    nfl redzone is the only way i can watch most of the sunday games anymore. going back to the regular broadcast just feels so slow and outdated.

    FlashMobOfOne ,
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    You do you, my friend. I love the regular broadcasts.

    grue ,

    My parents still have cable TV (I just got them a Roku not long ago, so fingers crossed…), and at this point I can’t stand to watch it for more than about one and a half commercial breaks. It’s hard to believe anybody willingly subjects themselves to that trash when ad-free alternatives are available.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    You forgot animated sitcom that either lasts 6 episodes or 16 seasons

    mmagod ,

    lol only 30%?

    jokes but i agree… i remember going to visit some relatives and sat and watched tv with them… i too was so shocked at how they’d sit idly thru commercials jarring into their show, slapping them in the face…

    i can’t stand it. just about anything i watch, when i watch, is commercial free

    MyNameIsIgglePiggle ,

    I think they get that from most half hour shows are 22 minutes and hour shows only 42 minutes.

    But if course networks have been known to cut them back even further to squeeze some more ads in

    cantstopthesignal ,

    Even the most high effort shows have so much useless digression and pointless characters that are developed and killed off in a single episode.

    Jojo-Mcfrost572 ,
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    Good. More please. Hold these cucks accountable.

    Destroying the planet for infinite wealth.

    dojan ,
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    Yeah! I’m sick of it. Not only do they want infinite money but also infinite growth.

    Literally like a cancer. Feasting on society until nothing is left.

    jimmyjoners ,

    This. I want more strikes. I’m tired of everything going to shit and the masses sit back and do nothing. I’ve gone to a few protests recently, and honestly it’s cheap therapy for me. Feels nice to actually DO something.

    kklusz ,

    And what have you actually accomplished with marching and shouting? I went to quite a few BLM protests back in 2020, got tear gassed and shit along with my friends, and yet still haven’t seen anything meaningful change.

    CeruleanRuin ,

    Change is slowwwww, my brother. It’s rare that an actual upheaval happens and things shift noticably overnight.

    It is and always has been a long, long struggle, and there is no final victory, only temporary triumphs that must be vigorously defended, because the enemy will never stop trying to take back every inch.

    lohrun ,
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    Change doesn’t have to be slow and we don’t need to make more excuses for the people able to make the change. Protests outside of the US have shown how to accelerate change in the direction they want. At this point though, it appears that a lot of people have given up hope that anything will change

    CeruleanRuin ,

    And can you blame them? The opposition infrastructure is so incredibly overbuilt that it’s like trying to chip away at a wall when they keep taking away your tools.

    CyPhD ,

    I think it’s even more goddamn nefarious than just destroying the planet for wealth - if some of the shit I’ve been reading is right, then AI has changed the game and this strike is our fucking chance to get ahead of the shit that these studios want to pull. In what world is it okay to pay an actor a single day’s worth of work and retain their likeness in pepertuiry using AI generation.

    I’ll admit that I’m not very knowledge on the whole workings of the AI part of it, but I do feel like every actor should have full control over their likeness and how it should be recorded and how it is applied to AI.

    MBM ,

    From what I heard it’s not even new technology but from ~2016, they’re just trying to push it through again but now under the guise of AI

    vimdiesel ,

    The 1% would murder us all and replace us with AI if given the chance, never forget that. They’d be too stupid to realize that the AI bots would take them out next.

    vimdiesel ,

    You wanna get really mad? A new practice they were trying to pull off was bring in some young good looking actors; do 3d body scans, record a bunch of voice data, and then have them allow the studios a perpetual license to use their likeness for a few thousand bucks. How evil is that?

    dudebro ,

    Sounds cost-efficient.

    If the end product is the same, who cares if it’s made more cheaply using robots instead of humans?

    This frees those humans up to do something else useful for society.

    lohrun ,
    @lohrun@fediverse.boo avatar

    It’s only a matter of time for desperate people to sell their likeness to a company doing that. If there was a company out there saying they’d pay you $3k to do a full body 3d scan, record 1 hour of voice lines, and own the rights to your image…do you know how many people would do that? (Probably a significant amount)

    Evil and awful yes, but people are desperate for cash in this economy and most people wouldn’t truly understand what they are giving up to the company

    TendieMaster69 ,

    Let’s hope some never become desperate, because they see through the lies and wouldn’t be doing anything for money. They’d have fun watching things break.

    vlad76 ,
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    At this point they should just pay OpenAI to AI generate their “actors”

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    emtoor ,

    Good bot

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