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Chadarius ,

So actually no. It isn’t really safe. Coca-Cola and the rest of the beverage industry is just as bad as big tobacco.

Nalivai ,

Everything is technically unsafe. When we say “safe” we always mean “in moderation”

havokdj ,

I have always heard the 52 can argument but the thing is, who in the hell is drinking 14 cans a day? I’m a physique competitor, I need an exorbitant amount of water and 14 12 fl oz/355 ml cans is a shit ton of fluid.

Gramatikal ,

Won’t effect the US, even if it causes cancer. EU has prohibited food additives which are carcinogenic, but we don’t because the poor, poor food producers might have to pay farmers more and pay a couple pennies to make food that doesn’t kill people.

Zanz ,

The US should ban it just like it does saccharine. It takes less aspartame for that study than it takes for saccharine to cause issues I mice.

The US is fairly strict about food additives that cause cancer, but not general chemicals that cause cancer. There’s also a difference between causes cancer and link to cancer.

hyorvenn ,
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Safe in limited amount, so just like normal sugar then. Just don’t drink liters of soda each day. (Or even better, don’t drink soda but water instead)

hark ,
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Why is this suddenly a topic of contention now?

Kolanaki , (edited )
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14 cans of soda a day, even diet soda, can’t possibly be safe or good for you. Especially since aspartame is also linked to kidney and liver failure and is even worse for you than ibuprofen in that regard; and you wouldn’t normally take 14 ibuprofen in a single day.

How much did Coca-Cola pay for this PR? I swear, ever since the first news that aspartame is linked to cancer, there have been way more articles trying to convince people it ain’t that bad. It’s a corporate smokescreen.

LaunchesKayaks ,
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I’ve been on a low sugar diet for 3 years, to try to curb my binge eating disorder. Sugar was a huge trigger. I recently looked into how many low and zero sugar products use aspartame and every thing I buy to adhere to my diet has it in it. I’m introducing a bit more regular sugar into my diet so I stop consuming so much aspartame. It’s going well. I haven’t binged since the start of this, and hopefully it stays that way.

Cethin ,

You need a huge amount of aspertame to cause issues. Sugar is very unhealthy and it’s in everything. I’d recommend sticking to sugar alternatives. If you’re adding sweetener yourself, to coffee or whatever, there are other options though. I like stevia, which you can even grow and extract yourself without too much trouble. Ragardless, unless you’re consuming absolutely massive amounts of aspertame, you’ll be OK. (Maybe switch to water from soda though. That’ll help regardless.)

LaunchesKayaks ,
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Thank you for making me feel a bit better. How tf do you grow stevia tho??? I want to do that.

Cethin ,

It’s just a plant that naturally tastes sweet, but not from sucrose/glucose.

To extract it you put the leaves in alcohol (vodka is fine) and wait 2 days, then cook off most of the alcohol.

ianis ,

Im 90% sure they mean that digesting the Aspartame found in 14 cans per day is safe. Not the drinking 14 cans of coke lol

gundog48 ,

I’ve used this for distilling too, when people start talking about methanol. Even with the worst distiller in the world, you’d have to drink something crazy like 10L before it would kill you.

Obviously by that point you’d be dead with alcohol poisoning. But saying “you can safely drink 14 cans of coke a day before the carcinogenic effects of aspartame become an issue” is completely valid, and not the same as saying “drinking 14 cans of coke a day is a healthy way to live”.

deus_deceptor ,

Cancer is one thing, what about other health aspects? Does it affect your gut microbiota like earlier studies have suggested?

havokdj ,

I’d think that to be more hereditary, I’m a diet soda enjoyer and my microbiome is very strong, but I also always handled it really well and I do also enjoy eating certain foods like Greek yogurt.

For instance, tolerance to sugar alcohols is a hereditary thing for the most part. A tsp of erithrytol is a serving that would be trivial to some, but send others straight to the toilet.

Tag365 ,
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What is aspartame? The name suggests something inappropriate to be put in a drink, like a drug.

Kolanaki ,
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It’s an artificial sweetener…

MrMcMisterson ,

Honestly, aspartame is terrible for me. I have a weird allergic reaction to it when all the sudden my sinuses go crazy and I feel like I have a cold. Lasts for 15 minutes or so if I have a sip of aspartame containing beverages. I’ll just stick to drinking sparkling water.

assassin_aragorn ,

Something being carcinogenic is not the same as it being likely to cause cancer. I wish this was a better understood distinction in the public. It comes down to how carcinogenic it is and how much you’re exposed to/consume. It is technically true that aspartame is carcinogenic – it’s a scientific fact. But like they say here, normal human consumption amounts makes the likelihood of getting cancer from it negligible.

It’s important though to recognize that carcinogens come in varying levels of strength. I’m fine with drinking two cans of diet soda, but I would never wash my hands in benzene. Benzene and aspartame are both carcinogenic, but benzene is WAY more potent. We’ve limited the amount of benzene that can be in gasoline for this reason – but again note, it’s limited, not eliminated.

I took an environmental engineering class in college, and our professor had a very cute but apt tagline. Dilution is the solution to pollution. You’ll never get rid of 100% of something. But reducing its concentration can make it safe regardless. Same idea goes here.

Thanks for coming to my completely unsolicited Ted Talk.

crypticthree ,

At the same time a lot of people are constantly main lining diet coke

Shardikprime ,

Bois be drinking that shit up

havokdj ,

I remember an independent study being done a few years back that basically came to the conclusion that to actually have a chance of getting cancer from aspertame, you’d have to drink like 52 cans of diet coke a day for 50 years.

irkli ,
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Their job is to make money, and shit stories works for them.

Yeah, all these stories — coffee is good for you! — coffee will kill you! — need immediate research from other sources, and/or simply don’t react at all and wait a few days/week for the rebuttal/takedown.

Or so what I do, stop reading this kind of article. If something like this does happen, there will be lots of followup, you won’t get left out.

News publishers are very aware of how people read news – a form of entertainment socially rewarded for being responsible.

Obsession ,

What a surprise, the claims were overblown. Glad to hear I can stock up on my Pepsi Zero again, since 1-2 cans a day won’t kill me

Kolanaki ,
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Why limit yourself to 1 or 2? The WHO says you can have 14 a day!

Shardikprime ,

They say digesting the contents of aspartame equivalent to 14 cans is safe. Nothing about the actual drinking of 14 cans of coke lololol

Inanna ,

Very glad the WHO doesn’t discriminate between countries and companies when it comes to bribes.

Also glad to know there’s as safe level of carcinogens I can ingest.

CoderKat ,

Also glad to know there’s as safe level of carcinogens I can ingest.

I mean… yeah? That’s the case for literally everything. Almost anything will kill you if you consume too much. Surely it’s no surprise that the same applies to carcinogenic properties? The sun is an easy one to see the effects of. Some exposure to sunlight won’t hurt you (and is in fact vital for vitamin D absorption), but too much and it can cause cancer.

dangblingus ,

Hydro homies where you at? Soda is trash, diet soda is trash, tiktok water is trash. Aspartame aint a problem in our lives.

quantum_mechanic ,

This. Nothing to worry about if you only drink high quality h2o.

Kolanaki ,
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“Water sucks! Gatorade not only tastes better, it quenches your thirst more!”

static_motion ,

Hear hear. Water all day every day, with the occasional beer or glass of wine.

SuiXi3D ,
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Anyone with functioning kidneys is fine. Anyone with kidney problems probably isn’t drinking much soda anyway, and if they are that’s their choice. The occasional diet soda won’t kill you any faster than, say, standing outside would.

Nobody’s drinking 5 LITERS of soda in a day. If they are? More power to ‘em.

This isn’t a big deal in the slightest. A lot of diet sodas aren’t even using aspartame anymore, so it’s nearly a moot point.

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