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Hossenfeffer , in The hypocrisy at the heart of racist riots.
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Coming over here taking our benefits/jobs/culture/white women/supermarket trolleys/cheese/ovengloves/starring roles on reality TV shows/CEO roles/benefits again/something/something/hosepipe bans/onshore wind farms/badgers/NHS waiting lists/bah!/bah bah bah!

steeznson , in Civil servants cannot wear ‘fetish gear’ to work, minister confirms

One of my friends in the civil service said they have this kind of internal linkedin/facebook thing that virtually no one uses. However they have some kind of craigslist style functionality and she saw someone trying to sell used sex toys on there.

echodot ,

Is it Yammer because even the IT department refused to use it.

steeznson ,

That name rings a bell but would need to double check with my friend. She said it was basically a ghost town with only a few really eccentric posts.

kralk ,

Mr skinner and Mrs krebapple were in the closet making babies and I saw the baby and it looked at me

rah , in Civil servants cannot wear ‘fetish gear’ to work, minister confirms

“low-cut black corsets, fishnet tights with high heels and a gothic choker with a pentagram”

dogsnest ,
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My friend would like to know where, exactly, this is, so a complaint may be filed.

rah , in Civil servants cannot wear ‘fetish gear’ to work, minister confirms

Paywall

wren , in Civil servants cannot wear ‘fetish gear’ to work, minister confirms
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I don’t have a telegraph account - someone summarise?

Emperor ,
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I’ll go one better. Here is the archive.

atro_city OP ,

Here's an archive of the page.

Ms Tweedale, 58, is said to wear low-cut black corsets, fishnet tights with high heels and a gothic choker with a pentagram when she attends the office.

She's trans and her attire led to a minister stating that kind of "fetish gear" cannot be worn at work. Others working with her say it's highly inappropriate and unprofessional. That's the gist of it.

rah ,

She’s trans

Is that relevant?

flamingos ,

Apparently, as the Telegraph decided to give this nothingburger of a paragraph its own heading

Ms Tweedale previously prompted controversy in the department after she was singled out by civil servants who accused her of furthering the “chilling effect” of gender ideology.

rah ,

the Telegraph

I was asking about OP’s comment, not the Telegraph’s article. Of course the Telegraph will include irrelevant detail in order to sensationalise (in their view) the story. Others repeating that irrelevant detail is questionable though.

off_brand_ ,

Well, the article itself dedicates a section to how she’s been targeted for “gender ideology”, which is dog whistle for “trans”. Calling non-cis gender expression a “fetish” is another dog whistle. Those two points in combination make her trans-ness relevant, even if the author isn’t going so far as to explicitly call out that this anti-trans behavior.

rah ,

the article

Again, I wasn’t talking about the article.

palordrolap ,

Being trans does not give extra dress-code rights, and nor should it. None of the other women are allowed to dress that way, so why should she?

Now, if she wants to challenge the dress code for more esoteric modes to be allowed, that should be taken under consideration by whoever is in charge of that, but in the meantime, she should at least try to conform. Then if the decision was to go against her, she'd have the requisite conforming clothing already.

(Tangentially, there's an argument that gender non-conforming people might want to define other professional dress codes that don't strictly fit with male and female norms, but that's doesn't seem to be what's happening here.)

I understand that it's difficult for trans folk who deal with transphobics everywhere they turn and thus every discrimination could be transphobia, but this one seems pretty easy to test.

And I have to wonder how she'd react if she won the dress code change and other people, cis people, started dressing more like her.

AllNewTypeFace , in Civil servants cannot wear ‘fetish gear’ to work, minister confirms
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On TERF Island, clothing not corresponding to one’s biological sex is legally considered “fetish gear”

TheGrandNagus , (edited )

People say TERF island as if when you leave Britain everywhere is ok with trans people. Unfortunately, other places tend to be even worse.

It’s a stupid buzzword.

E: ok people. Prove me wrong.

frazorth ,

Ah, a nice normal American that loves judging other countries without realising what the fuck is going on locally.

StarlightDust , in Far-right disorder in England is at ‘turning point’ after arrests, say police

Cops and politicians are claiming credit for the quick response from local communities, and also the far right having generally really poor organizing practice, calling demonstrations in random locations they have never even seen before and not being present themselves to pull people together.

GreatAlbatross , in Cannabis: Drug production booming in UK's empty high streets
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If you polled the average high-street go-er, I’m not sure if they’d prefer another dodgy phone repair place, or a hydroponic farm.

mannycalavera ,
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Tanning salon seems a great fit. Whilst the beds aren’t in use, farm some weed?

frazorth ,

If only there existed other types of services. 🙄

Honestly I have seval ideas that I would love to pursue but we don’t have any suitable vacant buildings. Almost everything is bought up for assisted/elderly care and left unoccupied. It definitely feels like a tax scam somewhere.

echodot , in Britain ignored its far-right threat and demonized Muslims. Now racist mobs have spiraled out of control.

Did the author come from another reality or what? This is why we need media reform so publications like this can’t stir the pot under the guise of “reporting”.

The reality isn’t even close to that. No one has ignored the far right, It’s just they’ve simply been in charge for the last 14 years, so all the attempts to mitigate their damage have been somewhat lackluster. You might as well say that the Nazis ignored the far right, it doesn’t make sense.

Mr_Blott , in Britain ignored its far-right threat and demonized Muslims. Now racist mobs have spiraled out of control.

I’ve never heard of Anal Yst News so I’m going to assume it’s ragebait bollox

echodot ,

Sounds Welsh.

nickb333 , in Deep space radar site in Wales to go ahead to protect UK from ‘space warfare’
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Add official gov.uk statement on this.

The MOD is committed to undertaking all necessary planning and environmental processes required to gain planning consent for the proposed site and for its safe operation. A comprehensive Environmental Impact Assessment (including a Landscape and Visual Impact Assessment) is underway in support of our planning application to Pembrokeshire County Council and their granting of planning permission is conditional on DARC meeting all the required safety standards.

Superfool , in Britain ignored its far-right threat and demonized Muslims. Now racist mobs have spiraled out of control.

This title is total bollocks.

As for the opinion if the author, I can understand their frustration, but calling for bans and mandates for political opinions, however abhorrent they may be does not work.

Flax_vert ,

The thing is, there is always sort of a truth in the middle - there are communities suffering from mass and badly controlled migration, but whenever they raise their concerns, or hold a demonstration, racists are quick to hijack it and take the reigns. I once ran a Minecraft server which had a guy who was moderately right wing run a faction. However another guy joined and behaved himself, but invited tonnes of people who definitely couldn’t, and suddenly we had a nazi bar problem at hand of racists flooding a Minecraft server.

FarceOfWill ,

The suffering is real but the link to migration is entirely made up.

Not enough GPs for the population? They’ve retired.

Too much traffic? More and more people own cars and the entire country outside cities is designed to require them.

No home? Councils were banned from building them in the 80s of course we don’t have enough housing.

giving an inch on the core anti migration argument is a mistake because it makes the action to actually fix these problems harder.
No action on migration can ever be enough because the racists want to kick every black person born here out, and the “legitimate concerns” crowd won’t see any improvement in their lives and will keep demanding bigger and bigger action alongside them.

echodot ,

How is migration the problem? Practically every issue in this country is because there aren’t enough people to do the jobs either because there isn’t enough people or because there isn’t enough people willing to do them.

The NHS is falling apart partly because they can’t get the staff, because they used to come from Europe, thanks to the bloody brilliant idea of brexit that’s now not possible.

Oh and of course the whole thing about not having enough lorry drivers. If you will intentionally gut the workforce.

Then you’ve got all the seasonal workers that are necessary for things like fruit picking, they are no longer turning up.

This country 's built on immigration it’s required in order for the country to function. But racist both in and out of government over the last couple of decades have decided to turn it into an issue. They’ve decided to tell people that the reason that they can’t afford a house is because of immigrants rather than admitting this because they haven’t built any for the last 25 years.

Flax_vert ,

The crime they commit and the way they treat women. There have been people trying to enforce Sharia, in France there were teachers beheaded for criticising Mohammed, there were riots in Sweden over burning a book. Riots between Indians and Pakistanis. Behaviour like this just doesn’t belong in our society. Of course there are plenty of migrants who do behave and they are very much welcome, but we do have to be careful about who we’re letting in.

bungalowtill ,

luckily we have laws and enforcement for all sorts of crimes.

Wanderer ,

It’s because you are trying to fix a difficult problem with an easy solution that just pushes the can down the road.

Problem: We don’t train enough NHS staff

Solution: Train the same amount of NHS staff, reduce their (real) wages and hire immigrants.

The issue of shit pay and not enough education is still there.

HumanPenguin , (edited )
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Actually its been a problem since at least the 1970s. When my father worked for a hospital as a charge nurse. He was paid to travel to nations to hire nurses. Mainly jamaca and a few others at the time. .

This was a tume when all UK higher education was free.

The issue is more about how much we pay nurses compared to other nations. Vs how shitty the job is.

And you will notice we solve it the same way most other nations do. Recruit from nations that pay even less. Just like the US and AUS recruites from the UK we recruit from eastern wleurope africa etc etc etc.

If you want to fix it without immigration. You need to pay UK nurses etc competitivly with the US.

Wanderer ,

I don’t think we need to pay the same as the US.

But I agree paying nurses more is the right thing to do. The fact that it will increase number of people moving into that job and reduce immigration is also a good thing.

HumanPenguin ,
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I don’t think we need to pay the same as the US.

The issue with that is at times like this. When economics are bad. The UK has a long history of emigration. And medical professionals are by far the most in demand worldwide.

If this nation, dos’e not offer a competitive standard of living compared to other nations. Those that can leave will and always have.

So yes, if you want to keep people in the field. You must either appeal to those from a lessor standard of living. Or raise yours to your competitor’s level.

Wanderer ,

People don’t work like that and there are costs your aren’t rationalising.

Things like pensions, healthcare, PTO, lower crime. But even then I think most people want to stay at home. So a large difference will cause a large movement when times are bad. But a small price difference isn’t going to cause all the UK medical staff to move like a perfect competitive market.

UK people need to be paid more, bit not the same as the US.

anothermember ,

there are communities suffering from mass and badly controlled migration

Communities are suffering from 14 years of misgovernment, that’s what people should be angry at, blaming migration hands the tories a massive free pass.

ChonkyOwlbear ,

That a group of people should be killed because of their religion is not a political opinion.

Swedneck ,
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seems to have worked pretty well for germany? considering that they are literally the origin of nazis and are now having about as many problems as the rest of europe.

Comment105 , (edited )

The simple fact is that Muslims have made themselves very dislikable.

A majority is either disinterested in their wellbeing and waiting to see the far right make their move, or actively wanting to cause harm and joining the far right and preparing to make their move.

There are comparably few left who are actively protective of Muslims.

If action had been taken sooner or is taken soon to exile antagonistic immigrants from their host countries, the far right wave may be mitigated. The ethical arguments underpinning current immigration policy are not supported by democratic consensus.

ianovic69 ,
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Your prejudice is showing, mate.

Everything you’ve said is complete nonsense, you should get out more.

ByteOnBikes , in Britain ignored its far-right threat and demonized Muslims. Now racist mobs have spiraled out of control.

You Brits can take a page from the Yanks.

Let them live peacefully so then they can quietly settle down.

Nah I’m just kidding we got Nazis literally parading in the streets.

echodot ,

These guys aren’t even Nazis they’re just brown shirts. Brown shirts that are far too stupid to recognize history when it’s repeating itself.

ByteOnBikes ,

If you’re waving a Nazi flag… Why treat them as something different?

fox2263 , in Far-right disorder in England is at ‘turning point’ after arrests, say police

Inb4 Farage starts claiming those in prison are hostages

Swedneck ,
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i cannot fucking wait to see farage face charges of treason and flee the country

steeznson , in UK riots: how does the violence compare with unrest in August 2011?

The 2011 riots were terrible but at least they gave us that viral image of the guy posing with an enormous bag of looted basmati rice.

Emperor OP ,
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Yeah but this one had the brick guy, Greggs boy and sundry other idiots.

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