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Visstix , (edited )

I think the interesting thing about this video is that she is the perfect customer for the experience disney tried to set up. She loves themeparks, she loves dressing up as characters, she loves larping, she loves star wars. But no matter how much effort SHE put in to get her enjoyment out of it, it just didn’t work.

Aggravationstation ,

That is a damn good point well made

WolfLink ,

I’ve watched the whole thing. It’s so close to something I’d really like, at least in concept. But the ball is dropped so hard in crucial areas :(

RebekahWSD ,
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I watched that video when it came out, it’s a delight! I also feel so bad for Jenny about like…everything that happened. So bad! So expensive!

scops , (edited )

Was there some fallout from this video? Or do you just mean the terrible experience she had at the hotel?

RebekahWSD ,
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Just the entire hotel experience was so bad! I do think some people were complaining about the video, but I mostly didn’t see it, only saw people loving the video!

I can’t imagine spending that much and having that bad an experience. I think my heart would just explode from stress and sadness.

shoulderoforion ,
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I saw someone below say "it's a review of a hotel". It's so much more than that.

It's a critical indictment of corporate greed, and the fleecing of family entertainment, and nerd culture, told in such minute and well research detail, it's a 4 hour wonder. All of her stuff is like this.

She's a little Forrest gnome with an Einstein brain who graces us with her content. I'm a big big Jenny Nicholson fan.

acockworkorange ,

I didn’t know her at all before watching this, but this tour de force deserved a standing ovation.

maquise ,

This concept should’ve been a slam dunk, and they blew it.

SpaceNoodle ,

It seems like they developed the entire thing in a silo without ever considering how people would actually want to spend their time on holiday. It sounds incredibly appealing on the surface, and aimed directly at my (and my partner’s) demographic, but they just screwed the pooch at every corner.

Brkdncr OP ,

I’m still watching, but it feels like they didn’t bring in people from their parks, hotels, and cruise ships to consult or manage taking the concept from design to execution.

SpaceNoodle ,

Reminds me of the time my previous employer tried to have a bunch of webdevs build an embedded device

nobleshift ,
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Systematic and systemic failures of Senior and Upper Management, pretty much at every step.

If Jenny ever pursues a career in investigative journalism, she’ll eclipse Nader.

shoulderoforion ,
@shoulderoforion@fedia.io avatar

Jenny Nicholson has over 53k monthly Patreon subscribers, paying at least $2 a month, some up to $25 (do that math, it's astounding). She's the 7th largest Patreon subscriber base on the platform. She's well exceeded anything Ralph Nader has ever done, professionally.

nobleshift ,
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I’m sorry, I wasn’t clear in my original post, I wasn’t speaking of audience or earnings I was speaking of impactfulness and usefulness. But to be clear I find zero fault in her end products and every new video showcases how her topics and methodologies are maturing. She’s killing it.

I absolutely believe she is capable of producing products that get the US Congress involved and laws repealed or passed.

In fact my only critique of her is that she is still on Twitter.

Glytch ,

Has she gotten laws passed that make cars safer too?

Ralph Nader has literally saved thousands (if not millions) of lives.

Lemminary ,

Jenny is a legend. Her content is awesome.

smokebuddy ,

Her Evermore Park video is also a banger

Rhynoplaz ,

I’m sure it’s very interesting, but ain’t nobody got time for that!

sensiblepuffin ,
@sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world avatar

You should watch it. Jenny does a great job breaking down what they did right and wrong. And it turns out it was such a monumental project that you need four hours to talk about it fully.

Our attention spans are dropping precipitously, and it worries me.

PP_BOY_ ,
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Man it’s a 4 hour video. Of a review of a hotel. At no point in modern history was that the kind of thing that many people had the attention span to watch

Arbiter ,

I mean, it does have 10 Million views.

expatriado ,

how long into the video is considered a view?

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Yes

SpaceNoodle ,

It was a complete resort experience, not just “a hotel.”

IrateAnteater ,

Still not the kind of thing the average person was ever going to watch a four hour video on, regardless of attention span.

shoulderoforion ,
@shoulderoforion@fedia.io avatar

this review video was written up in rolling stone, forbes, and the new york times, it's been viewed 10 million times on youtube, your idea of the average person is painfully incorrect

IrateAnteater ,

Youtube averages 122 million users a day. 10 million views makes it far from something the average YouTube user has seen, let alone the average person.

GBU_28 ,

Seriously people. Go outside. Call ya motha. Drink water. Do anything but watch a 4h hotel review.

magic_lobster_party ,

Imagine doing whatever I want with my free time.

It’s an entertaining video. I watched it to have something in the background while doing chores.

GBU_28 , (edited )

4 hour hotel review.

An infinite world of music and audiobooks, and 4h hotel review.

gamermanh ,
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Yeah, audiobooks are way longer than 4 hours normally

This “4h hotel review” is a full on story, like an audiobook but shorter

ramsgrl909 ,

Her entire channel is a great watch, only person I’ve ever used Patreon for

SpruceBringsteen ,

I’m surprised we haven’t seen a post Lucas Star Wars MMO looking to capitalize on the number of people who just want to experience an open ended Star Wars universe to role play in.

cryptiod137 ,

They might have had the same idea, but the devs they are letting make Star Wars games are (usually) making turd after turd, so I could see the hesitation

billwashere ,

There hasn’t been a great track record with recent Star Wars games though… likely due to shitty execution thinking rabid fans won’t care if the game is good.

ryven ,
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Open-ended, “sandbox” style MMOs are a lot trickier to get right than “theme park” style ones like Star Wars: The Old Republic. Games like SW:TOR require a lot of content to be developed, but you can at least be pretty sure that if you develop fun quests then players who like questing will have fun.

For a “sandbox” style MMO, you have to design systems that lead to interesting player interactions… and then hope players actually interact. This is complicated by the market share for sandbox games being smaller overall, meaning you can’t guarantee there will actually be a sizable player population. Also sandbox-style players are sharply divided on basically every topic from “how much PvP should there be” to “how much grinding should there be” so you quickly find yourself either targeting increasingly narrow slices of players or trying to appeal to multiple playstyles at once, which is even harder.

I think this is why sandbox games have mostly moved towards smaller worlds and self-hosted servers, like ARK and Rust, where they can thrive with small player counts and individual play groups can tweak the experience to better suit their needs.

Deceptichum , (edited )
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Did you’se all really need a 4 hour video to tell you Disney and capitalism are bad?

Brkdncr OP ,

While I don’t care for Disney entertainment much, I have friends that love everything about Disney. They go nearly every weekend and when you ask them about it they smile the entire time as they talk about it for the next hour. Why would I want to take that away from them?

Deceptichum ,
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That’s fucking sad all around.

GregorGizeh ,

Why not let people enjoy things if it gives them happiness?

(Not a fan myself, as a disclaimer)

Deceptichum ,
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It’s not just harmless little fun, Disney is one of the biggest companies in the world and is responsible for a lot of problems.

There’s more to life than bread and circuses.

SharkEatingBreakfast ,
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The constant “do stuff!!!”-push combined with the actual insane pricing of the experience, making it so that people feel the need to get all the worth they can from it, gave Jenny an anxiety attack, which she notes that she has never experienced before or since.

That’s fucking wild.

Brkdncr OP ,

I feel like they should have tied this somehow to an existing hotel instead of trying to make a completely new one with such a small number of rooms and high overhead cost.

AlligatorBlizzard ,

The insane pricing creating a miserable push to do all the things is basically the entire Disney experience for families. I used to work in one of the parks, and people were exhausted and burnt out trying to do everything, and my advice to people visiting the parks was always “don’t try to do everything, try to pick some of it and enjoy what you do”.

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