There have been multiple accounts created with the sole purpose of posting advertisement posts or replies containing unsolicited advertising.

Accounts which solely post advertisements, or persistently post them may be terminated.

HawlSera ,

No it can’t. Which is funny

OwlYaYeet ,

I think now is the best time to extract information from Reddit because we won’t be able to look up answers to niche problems with their shitty search function

MaxVoltage ,
@MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

google.com bro not 🦆 🦆 🏌️

HawlSera ,

Like anyone who knows how to DuckDcukGo still uses fucking Reddit

MargotRobbie ,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

The most valuable part of reddit is always in the comments, as it has over time replaced forums to become the biggest central repository of (mostly relatively high quality) human generated English text data on the internet in discussion format, and even knowing this, reddit has never attempted to have a remotely decent way to search for information in the comments, as post titles can be incredibly vague or irrelevant.

This is the reason why using Google or another external search engine for reddit, because it is the ONLY way to find information in the comments.

If reddit does block Google crawlers, then it would make sense for Google to start prioritizing alternate source of open, high quality human generated data in their search engine optimization, and that would hopefully be the various Lemmy instances, which could be a strong driving factor in Lemmy’s growth in the future.

EmperorHenry ,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/dbc23e48-e879-46d0-b1c7-9a714fd03f7e.webm

HiddenLayer5 ,

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/bff7d280-5a50-452b-81e8-185927394437.jpeg

PutangInaMo ,

Sorta off topic but her voice to be is the epitome of a smoker’s voice.

Bad_Scooter ,

I’ll see your Cpt Janeway and raise you a Kathleen Turner

Nusm ,

I’ll see your Kathleen Turner and raise you a Nina Blackwood.

Droechai ,

I see your Nina and raise you Shohreh Aghdashloo ( I had to Google the spelling :/ )

PutangInaMo ,

Lol idk her whole vibe is just Virginia slims and boxed wine. Got those grandma feels to her.

Aurix ,

This is a terrible moment for the internet. When people look for hobby information the loss of information accessibility it might be painful, but not critical. But there is tons of information on rare diseases, drugs and supplements which can be absolutely vital for the tiny minority which is affected by rare genetic conditions.

xenoclast ,

It’s ok. It will be replaced. Everyone acts like these things are the only option. They didn’t exist before and they’ll be replaced in the future. Just like everything ever.

When a company is shitty. Get rid of it as soon as possible to make room for replacements to grow as quickly as possible.

We gave nothing from too big to fail in any arena

Treczoks ,

Without google (or any other external search engine) reddit will be a worthless heap. One key feature of reddit was that one could find a lot of good information in relevant subs. A real treasure trove. But you could only find stuff with external engines.

The internal search function was a worthless waste of bits that could not find anything relevant, even if it bit the search function in the a…

Dicska , (edited )

Since the API exodus, I’ve only been using Google to look up something on reddit, strictly using cached versions only (no not give any more traffic to reddit). Whenever I could only find uncached hits, I still did the click of shame.

Thanks reddit, now I can cut the last cord. I couldn’t have done it without you.

Taako_Tuesday ,

Yeah my only interaction with reddit now is if I want to read honest discussion of some specific thing without worrying too much if it’s astroturfed, I can go to google and search like “wireless earbuds for sleeping reddit”. With this change I wouldn’t even have that option available, which I consider to be the last thing reddit’s good for.

rickywithanm ,

How do you view cached versions only? Is this something I can do with DuckDuckGo too?

Saurok ,

Not sure about DuckDuckGo, but for Google you just search something (only desktop version has the option when I do it on mobile), then click the three little dots next to whatever URL you want in the results. It’ll pop up a little “more options” window. From there you have to click the little down arrow in the top right of that window and it will reveal a “cached” button to click. There might be an easier way (and it used to not be as “hidden” as it is now beneath the menus) but this is how I know to do it.

AliasVortex ,

I don’t think duckduckgo has a cached view (since the results tend to be a mix of the in house crawler and other sources, like bing), but I like cachedview.com for accessing Google’s cache (or the archived instance if Google doesn’t happen to have it).

clara ,

this comment is aimed at those future “just passing through” visitors, who are still on the fence with regards to the fediverse.

any internet power user will know, and be able to tell you that the internet feels wrong as of late. everything that you try to use is slightly broken for some reason. why is it becoming harder to use basic services that we took for granted 5 years ago?

unfortunately, the internet is changing once again, and it’s time to pick a side.

you can side with big corpo, stay in their walled ecosystems, and embrace enshittification.

or, you can side with the fediverse, break out of your silo, and take control of your own means of content participation.

the choice is yours.

if you like following concepts or “things” (reddit-style), then try here: join-lemmy.org

or, if you prefer following individuals or “trends” (twitter-style), then try here: joinmastodon.org

WraithPriest ,

Oh the irony https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/c00a5bf9-ee07-4006-9f6d-34e027f0cc23.jpeg

clara ,

yeah this is exactly the point lol. 😅

it’s so hard to escape out of the walled ecosystems because so much of our content is already written in these places, and so even if fediverse grows exponentially, it will still take at least a decade of content creation for “free/libre” content to outpace the old silos.

but we have to start now, to get to that future.

roboticide ,

I mean, good journalism costs money and journalists deserve a living wage. Everyone hates ads, so what does that leave reputable sites that don’t want to just be shills?

Maybe for that specific article it’s ironic, but it’s not like the Wired web page is bothering to check what the headline it’s serving is before asking readers to sign up.

“Free and open internet” still costs a ton of money. Not everyone is able, nor should be expected to volunteer their time to provide content or services to others for free.

clara ,

you’re right, and i think that the thing that is being called out in the screenshot is not the money making per se, but the doom loop that everyone is forced to experience when trying to perform any basic information lookup using the internet in 2023. it goes something like this.

  1. google “enshittification” to find that neat article you read a few months ago to post in a lemmy comment
  2. first three or four results aren’t what you wanted, so keep scrolling.
  3. click the result you want (beginning of doom loop)
  4. “we value your privacy - so please click all the individual opt-outs, because GDPR didn’t say we can’t harass you with opt-outs to beat you into submission”
  5. “subcribe to our newsletter! we definitely won’t leak this email to a third party”
  6. “do you want to enable desktop notifications for this site?”
  7. “this page would like to know your location (so we can serve you geo-targeted adverts)”
  8. “get full access to our platform for xxx yyy price!” despite fake discounting being illegal in many countries
  9. scroll down to start reading the first paragraph.
  10. "…this is your 1st of 3 free articles this month. to receive 10 free articles a month, please register today!"
  11. after dismissing all of this, you then scroll 2 paragraphs in, and find out actually, this wasn’t the article you needed.
  12. press back on your browser a few times to wade back through all the privacy spam
  13. scroll 2 more results down on google, maybe this next one was it?
  14. goto 3. (you now repeat the doom loop)

this doom loop has to stop. yes, people and businesses need to make money under the current economic system we live in. but it doesn’t have to be like this.

but you know something? we all know where this is going.

some ““visionary”” san fran tech bro startup will have the “genius” idea of offering an interface between journo websites and customers, by offering a one-stop subscription shop. pay the tech bros once, they grant you access to all sites.

not unlike how uber operates as an interface between taxi drivers and customers, or how airbnb offers an interface between short term lets and customers, or how amazon offers an interface between cheap plastic vendors and customers, or how netflix operates as an interface between media content and customers, or how…

…the wheel turns.

HawlSera ,

Haha fuck the corponet!

spirinolas ,

Guys…who’s gonna tell them?

quinkin ,

Lol, no.

VantaBrandon ,

First Twitter, then reddit, to massive social platforms apparently trying to shoot themselves in the foot at every available opportunity. Never was a Twitter user, but sad to see reddit is likely in a slow death spiral.

CitizenKong ,

The word you’re looking for is enshittification and it’s an inevitable when software has to be infinitely more profitable to appease greedy shareholders. See also streaming services.

HawlSera ,

Nothing sad about it. Those fuckers banned me for being harassed by New Atheist Transphobic Edgelords

UBER_Gheist ,

The AI Wars Are Heating Up🔥🎬🥷you just love to see two Silicon Valley darlings slugging it out in the open field

Smacks ,
@Smacks@lemmy.world avatar

Literally the one reason I still use Reddit is because appending site:reddit.com gives me actual results. Reddits’ built-in search results are utter dog shit and you cant find anything. They’d just be shooting themselves in the foot for blocking Google

Hamartiogonic ,
@Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

Literally the only reason why I still bump into Reddit even when I’m not trying to.

Here’s an example from real life. When I searched for “ipados brave yutube ads adblock”, I found some Reddit posts discussing the issue.

Spoiler: Ditch brave and switch to something else.

BTW, Reddit is currently in the “hold my beer” sort of state when it comes to shooting itself in the foot.

FakinUpCountryDegen ,

…was the search actually misspelled that badly?

mbfalzar ,

Missing one letter is a severe misspelling?

Hamartiogonic ,
@Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

And that’s on a good day. Can you imagine how my spelling looks like in the morning before having coffee and/or when I’m standing in a train during the rush hour? It’s so far from human readable, that I’m inclined to call it a type of encryption.

Fungah ,

The MD algorithm does make text hard to parse.

FakinUpCountryDegen ,

Oh wow … You think one letter is the only problem with that?

mbfalzar ,

Let’s run this through one word at a time

ipados - name of a product, trademarked, spelled correctly

brave - normal English word, spelled correctly

yutube - missing the letter “o”

ads - normal English word, spelled correctly

adblock - name of a product, spelled correctly. Not an extension available for the browser in question as far as I can tell, but that’s the kind of thing you find out when you google it

bcron ,

deleted_by_author

    •
    Hamartiogonic ,
    @Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

    I think you’re right. Reddit is in a really tough spot now that we’re living the early days of AI. IMO Reddit should make their own LLM and call it Snoo or something. This way, people could asks Snoo to solve all their tech issues.

    Nahdahar ,

    Search results have gone to shit since everyone and their mothers started doing this SEO-optimization bullcrap. Google obviously has no reason to fix this situation because it makes them more money when people spend more time looking for something. site:reddit.com was one of the mitigators for this problem…

    I’d gladly ditch search altogether and use ChatGPT + browsing support, but that’s similarly dogshit because it’s working off of SEO-optimized bullcrap results too.

    Ultraviolet ,

    SEO should have been immediately dealt with years ago by having search engines permanently blacklist domains that pull that shit, no questions asked.

    hai ,
    @hai@lemmy.ml avatar

    Good. Now search results will actually be usable again.

    weew ,

    do Reddit admins think they have any kind of search function without using Google and site:reddit.com?

    Jok3r ,

    The reddit search was broken for years

    at_an_angle ,

    Did it ever work?

    Jok3r ,

    I see people in this thread say they never had a problem with the search feature but honestly personally I always used Google

    Da_Boom ,
    @Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

    It was good for certain situations, such as obscure subreddits and google was good for others.

    They both had their benefits and drawbacks.

    corsicanguppy ,

    Are they using their own search function to find a fix?

    CrapConnoisseur ,

    They think they have a great app without third party developers, so probably. :/

    OwlYaYeet ,

    oof

    FangedWyvern42 ,
    @FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world avatar

    Yet another stupid idea from Reddit.

    simplylemons ,

    I made the mistake of checking out the new homepage design, it is absolutely horrific. No idea why anybody thought it was a good idea.

    jimothy ,

    It was so bloated with filler features like why does any normal users want to “promote their content”??

  • All
  • Subscribed
  • Moderated
  • Favorites
  • •
  • [email protected]
  • random
  • lifeLocal
  • goranko
  • All magazines
    •