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Mantis_Toboggan ,
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I’m about to hear a lot more of José “hongos mágicos” Rogan outside of the internet now.

cesium ,

I don’t see anything wrong with that as long as it stays opt in only.

SwagGaribaldi ,

If the podcast creator consents, what’s the problem? I don’t understand why anti-AI sentiment is so prevalent among some people.

Venomnik0 ,

Its between the “it might take away jobs” to “spotify might use podcasters voices without consent”. I’m more on the latter but thats as if Spotify would end up being the “only” podcast streaming platform.

BubblyMango ,

I have a strong feeling the terms of usage for this opt-in will include something along the lines of “we can use your voice for our future projects” and then in a few years they will just create podcasts using podcasters’ voices without their true consent and make a ton off their backs while increasing their competition.

tony ,

That is of course the danger… as it is it’s pretty benign, allowing more people to consume podcasts in their own language. But the terms need to be clear.

BubblyMango ,

And I am certain the terms will be clear and concise, definitely less than 50 pages and no vague and contradicting statements all over.

dangblingus ,

Nope. I don’t support blatantly public facing AI’s that take creative jobs away from people. I don’t care if it’s opt-in. I don’t care if the podcast creator themselves activates it. Exploiting the technology will only make it normalized, meaning we’ll care less about allowing humans to be creative in the future.

dogebread ,

What?

ZoopZeZoop ,

Ronald would like me to tell you that Seamus told him that Dean was told by Parvati that Hagrid’s looking for you.

Blinx615 ,

I agree but it’s inevitable.

bamboo ,

It seems easy to take this position as a native English speaker, but what if you aren’t proficient in English, perhaps only in a smaller regional language that doesn’t have the same nearly infinite pool of content? This is a potential game changer for that, allowing you to listen to thousands of podcasts you never could before. No jobs were lost because there was never anyone doing the translations in the first place. When viewed this way, it’s an accessibility feature.

oleander ,

Bing bang boom.

I think people are totally steeped in capitalist rhetoric and are completely used to living it. I 100% support creative work and I will die paying humans cold hard cash for their artistic output. But everything else should 100% be automated where it can be with the expectation that humans no longer HAVE to work to be comfortable.

This is the same thing to me as worrying about accountants and HR when a bunch of them got displaced with computers. It disproportionately takes away jobs without equivalent replacements from people that are trained and educated with this specialization in mind, but it also moves us toward a world where we don’t have to sell our waking moments to someone else.

It absolutely sucks ass that we aren’t already preparing for a post-capitalist or semi-post-capitalist world and people are stressed, hungry, and unsheltered. But every time I see something like this, it feels like we’re making some kind of progress toward that because not only does it remove a space for humans to be exploited for labor, but it enables previously-unfathomable levels of accessibility that has been locked behind economic barriers (e.g. hiring people to translate Ologies into Pidgin languages would be totally unprofitable and therefore would almost never happen).

/rant

samson ,

It makes sense and is good from a technological standpoint, humans have always wanted to advance. But that means we must be even more politically active to save ourselves from exploitation in the future.

azurefirefly ,

Good

DahGangalang ,

Mixed feelings myself.

I think this is a GREAT application for AI.

But I worry that the creators will get screwed (monetarily) for the use of this. I could see this coming in a number of forms to include in losing the rights to the shows they made, but that were translated to their non-native language.

AceFuzzLord ,

I saw nothing in the article about if the podcasters will be getting any pay or anything of the sorts for this kind of stuff, but so long as they’re getting paid for opting in (assuming it’s opt in) when this comes available for everyone I don’t mind this as much. This is a use of AI I can get behind, at least if the podcasters get paid while using it.

pewgar_seemsimandroid ,

just use spotube

snek ,
@snek@lemmy.world avatar

“A partnership with OpenAI”. I stopped reading. Probably shouldn’t but god damn.

TwinTusks ,

I have mix feeling about this, I have many English podcasts that I would love to recommend to my non-english speaking friends, so I feel very excited about this idea. But again, I felt the podcasters are being abused in someway with this.

tabris ,

Are the podcasters getting paid for these translated versions? If so, and at the same rate, then I don’t personally see an issue. If not, then yes, it’s exploitation.

Edit: and as long as the AI voice isn’t reused for other content without consent from the owner of said voice.

Wahots ,
@Wahots@pawb.social avatar

I hate how many ads they push for podcasts and singles on the premium tier. Full screen. IDGAF, I just wanna listen to my music. Bracing for a wave of new duo ads, podcasts about a woman who sat on a fork or some BS like that, and artists I dislike. Now with AI translations :|

Rodeo ,

You pay for premium and they’re still serving you ads?

Every day I feel better about never having used Spotify.

krakenx ,

There is a recommended for you section on the main page, but you can ignore it. They aren’t inserting ads into the listening part.

shotgun_crab ,

Sounds like a terrible idea

dogebread ,

Why?

xusontha ,

Does this mean I can listen to my podcasts in Klingon?

Time to get Duolingo out again

MaxPow3r11 ,

Make it stop.

Fuck this whole shit.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

This is pretty great if the creators get the same cut…

kromem ,

What’s your beef with this?

In what world does someone who only speaks Spanish being able to listen to and enjoy a podcast that was recorded in English end up being such a terrible thing?

“Broader accessibility of information? No, please make it stop!!”

Hackwork ,

My beef with this, is that Spotify is relentless with pushing podcasts. I’m not interested in podcasts. I just want them permanently gone from my Spotify for all of eternity, but alas, I can’t get rid of them. When they start pumping out AI generated translations of popular podcasts, I can’t even imagine how hard they’ll push it.

I can choose “Music” and “Podcasts & Shows” on Home page on the mobile app at least, but that changes the feed massively and makes it useless. Spotify is such a trash app already, and I’m just waiting for an alternative that works in my country, but alas…

wishthane ,

You could argue that for major languages, where the translations would drive revenue, they should prefer to hire people to do the translations from within the target market - it would create some amount of economic opportunity rather than just being another way for the developed countries to suck up money on services from developing ones in particular.

GoodEye8 ,

But that would be just translating the transcript. To make it comparable to what Spotify is planning is if it also contains hiring voice actors to essentially redo the entire podcast in a different language.

No offense but depending on the podcast and the target audience this solution could cost per episode more than the entire production cost of the podcast per episode.

wishthane ,

Yeah, I could imagine that, if we’re just counting the baseline minimum of what that production would cost. I think for the most popular podcasts they could easily afford it, though. It would certainly cost much less than what they’re paying Joe Rogan.

shadearg ,
@shadearg@lemmy.world avatar

We are one step closer to universal translation.

“Not in my lifetime, by choice.”

andrew_bidlaw ,

This pseudoAI is a new kind of plastic: sometimes useful, misused to infest everything with it. As it rolls, there would be less and less genuine content in a sea of garbage. That few, it’d become a luxury.

Technological advance is in hands of those who own the means of production.

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