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Phen ,

I’ve been using windows for nearly as long as it has existed and I used to always be happy with updates. Even windows vista, despite all its problem, still felt like an upgrade compared to xp.

Then windows 8 started changing things in a direction I was not happy with, but at the same time it also had improvements over win7. Windows 10 repeated that with plenty of bad things but still overshadowed by massive improvements in many areas.

At this point windows was at its peak in some areas, like stability (when was the last time you saw a BSOD without actual faulty hardware?) and usability. Multiple Desktops, WSL2, the new Terminal…so many great things added in win10 updates.

And then comes win11 and shits at everything. Removed a ton of core features that didn’t need removing, broke a lot of compatibility with older stuff (something that Microsoft used to care deeply about) and adds… Nothing. It’s been quite a while since win11 released and there’s still nothing I can point at and say it does better than win10.

If you’re going to do all sorts of stuff with my data you should at least try to make me happy with your product in exchange, not make me dread using it every time.

Machindo ,

Thoughtful take! Ditto.

Yoru ,
@Yoru@lemmy.ml avatar

what does “Ditto” mean?

Aagje_D_Vogel ,

It’s a bastardisation of the Latin idem dito

Yoru ,
@Yoru@lemmy.ml avatar

“say the same”. I assume it means something like “this”?

Aagje_D_Vogel ,

Yes. “Likewise” and “I agree wholeheartedly” work as well

Yoru ,
@Yoru@lemmy.ml avatar

that’s cool

seeaya ,

It an expression that means “I agree with what you just said”

Yoru ,
@Yoru@lemmy.ml avatar

ahh, make sense. Thanks

IverCoder ,

Ditto (Japanese: メタモン Metamon) is a Normal-type Pokémon introduced in Generation I.

In its natural state, Ditto is a light-purple or pink blob-like Pokémon with vestigial facial features. It is often referred to as amorphous, but has a relatively consistent appearance in official artwork, including two small nubs on its “head”, a few soft lumps at its base, and two pseudopod-like protrusions in place of arms. The face consists of beady eyes and a simple mouth; almost always pulled into a smile.

It is capable of transforming into an exact replica of any physical object or living creature, including its form and abilities. Each Ditto has its own strengths and weaknesses when it comes to transforming; being unable to remain transformed while laughing and getting details of its transformation wrong if based on memory being apparently universal.

Yoru ,
@Yoru@lemmy.ml avatar

brooo LMFAO

Machindo ,

It means “I feel the same way you do and would have said it myself, so I acknowledge and applaud that you said it first”.

uranibaba ,

Which core functions did they remove and which did they break?

I can’t say that I miss anything from Windows 10 or before that. I disliked the new settings they introduced at first but I think it has seen some improvments (or maybe I am better at navigating it?) but it has really grown on me.

Being backwards compatible can be important (I really appreciated it when I wanted to install a game for Windows 95 on Windows XP) but you have to cut support at some point in order to implement features otherwise not possible, or to just save time and money doing it. It is like trying to develop for the web and you still see people talking about support IE6 (or IE in general).

RealAirBoon ,
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Win 10 and 11 are nowhere close to a fully transitioned unified settings menu, they somehow made dialouge box hell worse. its easier to list what doesnt.

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uranibaba ,

Control Panel will propably remain for another 20 years, just like everything else in Windows, but I still like more. Combined with winget-cli, installing and uninstall is almost as good as on Linux.

dustyData ,

I’m sorry, but I just have to mention that I find funny that the features you chose to illustrate “peak” Windows are all prime Linux features. Including installing Linux itself as a sub-system. At that point might as well cut-out the middle man.

Phen ,

I do use Linux every day as well. It has its own set of problems, but not the subject here.

lntl ,

They should ditch the pop-ups and instead go ahead and make Edge/Bing the default without permission. There’s nothing users can do but complain and accept it.

Geth ,

They are already half way there. File defaults often reset without an obvious reason. It’s been happening since 10.

query ,

Not sure if you’re being sarcastic, but that’s how they got in trouble with Internet Explorer in the EU.

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

Frankly, I have no fucking sympathy for Windows users. They keep putting up with this shit, quit crying about it and take control of your OS.

AVengefulAxolotl ,

But sadly there are people who have to use it, ex. Adobe softwares, enterprise usage etc… And yes you could dualboot, but the average why would even bother with it.

Nighed ,
@Nighed@sffa.community avatar

It “just works” (hah using that quote for windows) though. I probably have the tech knowledge to do everything I want on Linux, but I don’t want to have to struggle through it or take the performance hit on non native games

synicalx1 ,

Using a mainstream distro like Ubuntu, along with Steam makes it fairly seemless - no struggling required.

95% of my Steam library I can install and run without a second thought and the performance isn’t noticeably different to Windows. Some non-Steam titles I use Lutris for, but that’s only one or two extra steps.

dustyData ,

Your impression of Linux might be off by a decade or two.

Nighed ,
@Nighed@sffa.community avatar

Possibly I haven’t done a full daily drive attempt for a decade at this point. Just some usage in VMs etc.

I still don’t think the game support is fully there though, even with proton?

dustyData , (edited )

I’ve used Linux exclusively in my private life for about 3 years now. Used it on dual-boot for the better part of the decade. The games that are currently non-playable are mostly devs who hate their users and refuse to do the bare minimum to enable Linux anti-cheat. Or have some sort or weird ideological crusade against Linux.

Steam certifies at least 70% (10% verified and 60% readily playable¹) games on their library work by default on Proton. Many of the games I play actually have a native Linux version. Many games that aren’t even certified actually just work either way. And with the advent of more sturdy tooling like Heroic, Lutris and Bottles, the tinkering on those games that don’t work are just simple options on a GUI. Heck, some classical old games that don’t work on Windows anymore still run just fine on Proton. Making the most friendly option for abandonware.

Then there’s the whole emulation scene, of which Linux has the strongest and more streamlined user experience with retroarch and a vast suite of emulation software.

Linux is perhaps the most complete, powerful, flexible and diverse software gaming platform I’ve ever owned.

EDIT: ¹ Of the top 10000 most played games on Steam.

Mio ,

Disable it? I don’t see it in W10 and i have disabled show me Windows news features.

query ,

There needs to be a legally mandated option to turn off all recommendations and tracking, and to require consent to enable it in the first place.

ra1d3n ,

So pretty much just an extension of GDPR. Sounds good.

Buddahriffic ,

Or the courts should force MS to split off into an os company, an online services company, an office productivity software company, and a gaming company.

c0mbatbag3l ,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

If we had an actual anti-monopoly/umbrella corporation law that would be badass.

Hell Amazon would tank instantly, since they just operate on pumping AWS profits into their loss leader (Amazon delivery) constantly.

atrielienz ,

So would Google to some extent. This actually sounds like a good plan. We should go back to the 90’s antitrust law. Before we made it toothless and basically unenforceable.

Zealousideal_Fox900 ,

Fuck yeah! Lets do some trust bustin!

vacuumflower ,

A malware company using malware practices. Nothing to see here, gents.

InternetTubes ,

Nothing to see, except its effective monopoly in the OS PC sector and its presence in the entertainment and corporate industry.

bobman ,

Anyone who uses windows these days gets what’s coming to them.

m0nky ,

So sick of people saying stuff like this. Linux blah blah blah. Linux is not suitable for the vast majority of business and home users due to software incompatibility. People don’t want to mess around with wine or whatever else just to use photoshop or word.

bobman ,

Linux is absolutely suitable for most people.

If you are dependent on software that locks you into windows, then you deserve what you get.

Maybe if you had higher standards, then software vendors would be forced to reach them.

Kevnyon ,
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Some software just literally isn't available for Linux. And lets face it, even Ubuntu requires more tinkering than the average user is prepared to do, or in other words, any tinkering at all because they would have to install it themselves and they do not know how to do that. And the few times I've bothered to use Linux even as my backup, the tinkering never stops. Its not worth the hassle at this point in time.

BURN ,

I’d love to be able to replace all my software, but 80% of what I use a computer for is not possible on Linux.

There’s no Linux alternative to Lightroom (that actually works) there’s no way to play almost any online game with an anticheat.

Even if someone had “higher standards” that’s not going to change anything, they’re just not going to be able to do their job.

bobman ,

Even if someone had “higher standards” that’s not going to change anything

Wrong. If enough people had higher standards, businesses would have to meet those standards or go out of business.

It’s a very simple concept, and ya’ll deserve to suffer together because you can’t work together.

BURN ,

There’s no way to meet anticheat standards on Linux. It’s inherently a less secure platform for all the reasons you love. That’s not a dig against the OS, it’s a fact that enabling Linux in anticheats makes it less secure on all platforms due to the level of open customization Linux gives. That’s great for the user, but a pretty much unsolvable problem from game companies.

I don’t use FOSS most of the time because it doesn’t meet my needs. My standards are too high for Linux by your logic then.

m0nky ,

You sound like a complete cunt.

uranibaba ,

I’ve never seen this pop-up before. Do I already have Bing as default?

snugglebutt ,
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Let me check with my psychic powers

BluDood ,

I got that popup the other day. I’m this close to switching to Linux

dansity ,

I did 2 months ago. The OS is truly awsome but many many software are just inferior to the windows version. For example there is no proper pdf reader that can sign a pdf and add or remove a page. You have to do it in two separate software or with a CLI application. I’m a daily anydesk user, I have license as well, their console is broken on ubuntu (or just gnome, not sure). I had to weed out certain things from gnome from a javascript file so I can use my PC while anydesk running. So depending on what you want to do it can be a very good experience or a borderline hell trying to replace your basic software with something worse. I will not give up at this point and I stand by it it is not linux’s fault, however you are not just using an OS but many software on that said OS and many of those software will suck. Fortunately things like Photoshop no longer an issue as you have Photopea in the web browser. Web3 is really helping linux out.

t0fr , (edited )
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You can sign and remove pages using LibreOffice Draw

dansity ,

you can but it has many other issues as it is not a PDF reader. It has no bookmarks, every PDF is opened editable so if there are shapes or text you can accidentally move them, there is no continuous scrolling through a document it is divided into individual pages. PDF is simply not solved on linux at the moment.

t0fr ,
@t0fr@lemmy.ca avatar

Does your PDF Reader and PDF Editor have to be the same application?

dansity ,

No. I rarely edit PDFs. I sign them, bind them, reorganize pages, comment on them. I was an adobe x user then a foxit reader guy on windows, there you can do it all. There is a foxit reader for linux with fraction of the features and have crashed for me constantly (back to my original point that multi OS developments have inferior linux version) Ideally I would prefer a single software to manage my PDFs just like for example I prefer a single software to play my different format of videos.

raspberriesareyummy ,

For example there is no proper pdf reader that can sign a pdf and add or remove a page.

Unfortunately, pdf signing is problematic still on Linux, I use it as a daily driver and found a compromise with existing functionality. You can try okular, which is able to sign PDFs without altering them, but has a huge signature block and doesn’t permit adding a scan of a signature. My workaround: I created a stamp in the PDF reviewing tools with my signature, I can place that on the document and then sign it afterwards. Unfortunately, that doesn’t work for pre-signed PDFs as it will alter the signed version.

Alternatively, LibreOffice Draw can sign PDFs, but also can’t insert signature scans (yet, there’s an open feature request) and is sometimes not understanding when PDFs change to landscape, in general it’s not nice to render a many-pages document in LO Draw and hope that it won’t mess up the document upon signing.

For adding / removing pages, I agree - it’s a pity there’s no GUI application, but I have gotten used to qpdf / pdftk and they are quite powerful and more efficient 90% of the time. Still doesn’t excuse no GUI application, but it keeps me able to work.

Intralexical ,

Xournal++ is old, but it can directly write on PDFs with both pen tablet and scanned image insertion, and can probably add/remove/reorder pages too— Technically I think its file format links to/embeds the whole PDF file, and then probably exports a new one with stuff added on top, or something like that, but the end result is usually that you can directly edit the PDF.

Or do you mean some kind of cryptographic signing? Well, it looks like Adobe offers a webtool too?

raspberriesareyummy ,

I meant tamper-proof cryptographic signatures, yes. A webtool is absolutely out of the question if you consider that it means uploading your potentially confidential document to an enterprise like Adobe.

CeeBee ,

I use AnyDesk regularly myself and haven’t run into an issue aside from the dark theming of my desktop making some text a bit hard to read.

What’s the issue you’re having?

dansity ,

gnome has those little icon on the top bar and anydesk also creates one while running. That little icon created a big unclickable are in the corner of the screen and i could not close my full screen windows. I had to delete a javascript file from gnome that places those icons in the topbar to solve this issue as anydesk has no setting to hide it.

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mgfunction ,

That’s actually an Ubuntu specific problem then, since vanilla gnome doesn’t come with tray icons

flova ,

I use Journal++ to sign pdfs. Works with hand written as well as scanned signatures.

Intralexical ,

For example there is no proper pdf reader that can sign a pdf and add or remove a page.

Xournal++ should be a proper PDF reader that can sign a PDF and add and remove pages. Haven’t tried doing the latter personally though. It looks a bit old and might be hard to find, but it’s always worked suspiciously fine for me and is still in active development.

The “Adobe Acrobat” brand apparently also has a web app for signing PDFs. This is like, the first web search result for “PDF signing”.

I’ve also tried Inkscape import as vector and then reexport, which works fine for visually signing single pages. Just make sure you render the text to paths on import, instead of converting them to SVG text— And don’t actually do this, because it’s kinda dumb, so just use Xournal++ or the Adobe website instead, but there are options.

Granted, depending on how your experience with Xournal goes, these options are indeed not as convenient or easy as they should be.

Web3 is really helping linux out.

No! This term refers to, like, three three different things already, all of which have largely been either practical failures or grifts. Prescriptivism is usually just pedantry, but HTML5 web apps aren’t even on that inauspicious list.

dansity ,

There are already solutions to sign a pdf or reorganize the sheets or make comments. My point was its all a separate tool which defeats the point. Like if you want to use paint and the fill bucket is in a separate application. Just makes no sense. I honestly willing to pay for a complete solution I dont want it for free.

Intralexical ,

My point was its all a separate tool which defeats the point. […] Just makes no sense.

Ah, well, “UNIX Philosophy”, maybe. Each tool does one thing, and does it well, and it’s up to the user to figure out what they want to accomplish by using multiple tools together— Though it probably made more sense in CLI than in the GUI realm. I think it works for 95% of cases. I don’t want to need an entire office suite just to be able to make a mark on a page. But when you’re working a lot on one particular document (be it a PDF, video edit, source code, digital illustration, or whatever), then yeah, having a “complete solution” with an efficient workflow can be hugely important as well.

I honestly willing to pay for a complete solution I dont want it for free.

You could check if CodeWeavers Crossover, the money behind the WINE project, can run your preferred Windows applications but do it on Linux:

www.codeweavers.com/compatibility

Or maybe WINE will do it for free:

appdb.winehq.org

Madex ,

Ah mate, 2 months in going full endeavour OS, not looked back. Not perfect, but very close to now and all my devices run it, its amazing.

CeeBee ,

I switched to EndeavourOS a few months ago after using Kubuntu exclusively for almost a decade. I’m never going back to Ubuntu.

Madex ,

Out of interest do you feel that Kubuntu and whatnot feels very much corporation run now - like its coming close to Microsoft version of Linux?

joel_feila ,
@joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

Kde neon user here, so kubuntu with latest kde apps.

No not even close. I can turn off any reporting and tracking. Yes cononical is moving more and more towards snaps but i can always just download and use the deb or flatpack

Madex ,

Remind me, snap uses that partition for the application right?

Sorry I’m sort of catching up on a few years out.

Rodeo ,

But then you lose the benefit of the package manager, which is like 99% of the convenience.

berrodeguarana ,

This is the epitome of what the Linux community loves to read on the internet. Got any distros in mind?

Rooki ,
@Rooki@lemmy.world avatar

Kubuntu should be solid. Not to hard to install and yeah.

lemme_at_it ,

Microsoft IS the malware

frunch ,

The malware’s coming from inside the operating system 👀

joel_feila ,
@joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

Lots of linux communities on lemmy.

cman6 ,

Or there’s ReactOS: reactos.org/gallery/

nosurprises ,

Oh my god! ReactOS is so old, I completely forgot about it! My first thought was “I hope this is not written with ReactJS”. It’s nice to see that they’re still active.

AapoL ,

Is it actually something usable? I don’t know of many active users of it.

barsoap ,

Depends on what you want to use it for. Run age-old hardware requiring age-old NT-only drivers? Sure. Run modern games? Forget it. And for the age-old hardware stuff (think control board for an electron microscope or something) people usually use FreeDOS, the number of devices that specifically need 32-bit NT is comparatively small. And that’s if they even upgrade at all often it’s just easier to slap an RPi in front of ancient hardware to isolate it from and adapt it to modern surroundings (but yes mainboards with ISA slots are still getting produced, electron microscopes are expensive).

iByteABit ,

I remember feeling like this, then I made the switch and I haven’t thought about it again

mac12m99 ,

I am the only one that use Linux and bing as a default search? (On firefox) I personally think bing have better results than google right now

telepresence ,
@telepresence@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Check out some alternatives:
searXNG - open source & self-hosted meta-search engine (aggregates results from many others, like google, bing, qwant, duckduckgo - configurable which ones.) list of public instances just pick one that’s close to you physically and has a good uptime.
duckduckgo - uses bing for most search results, but is way more private
brave search - uses their own index, has a privacy-respecting privacy policy and the results are pretty damn good

mac12m99 ,

I already know Searxng but never tried extensively, I might give a serious try

I’ve used duckduckgo but I remember was really slow loading results 🤔

For brave search, I’ve never took it seriously, I should try also this if you say results are good. But how they found themselves?

Star ,

If you’re using Bing anyways, consider switching to Ecosia, it’s a non-profit search engine, they pull their search results from Bing and plant trees across the globe with their profits.

It might not be for extremely privacy conscious people because they do send some of your data (obfuscated IP addresses, user agent string etc.) to Microsoft because they use Bing but it’s still orders of magnitude better than using Bing directly.

tr11 ,
@tr11@lemmy.world avatar

If you want privacy, I would recommend duckduckgo.

mac12m99 ,

I’ve tried time ago but it seems to take the results and nothing else (I mean, no summary on top of the results, no table with restaurant number/time of opening ecc…) -> I don’t know how to call this

tr11 ,
@tr11@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t like bing, duckduckgo is much better and privacy-friendly

adeoxymus ,

I also agree bing is nowadays often superior to Google, they’re also better than DDG imo.

While it’s a good thing that Google gets serious competition, I don’t know if Microsoft is the best company for that role. In both cases the incentives are not necessarily aligned with the customer.

ilmagico ,

If you choose to use bing, then great. Problem is being forced to, or constantly nagged. (I personally use ddg)

sheogorath ,

DDG still uses Bing on their backend. But you won’t get tracked for using it.

ilmagico ,

Exactly

OldQWERTYbastard ,

I installed Pop OS on my laptop since it’s pretty gaming friendly. Between that and the Steam Deck, Windows 10 might be my last version of Windows for personal use.

dangblingus ,

It’s in Windows 10 now too

OldQWERTYbastard ,

Peachy. Thanks for the heads up. I haven’t noticed anything intrusive yet.

RealAirBoon ,
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This is literally your OS’s creator adding a backdoor, it could be anything bit they dont seem to care to do anything other than adware.

djmarcone ,

That’s why win 10 was free, and still is. So is 11. You can still install and activate win 11 pro for free with a 7 pro key, today.

Its a freaking vector for selling you other crap.

You don’t even have to activate it at all. It’s fully functional forever unactivated. Just a watermark.

viperex ,

You’re not going to make me feel bad for Google

ilmagico ,

Nobody is feeling bad for Google … if I was using duckduckgo, or anything else, I still wouldn’t want to see those popups. Then again, that’s one of the many reason why I stubbornly stick to linux ;)

UnPassive ,

Last weekend I talked my wife into trying Linux on her desktop on an extra SSD I had, she loves it. Loves that she can customize everything, says it’s faster (especially boot time), we put it on her laptop last night

oscar ,

What distro did you go with? My friend is showing intrest in trying Linux but I’m not sure what to recommend him. I use more advanced distros myself but I want it to work well for him OOtB while also not requiring any tinkering. I’m think of either some ubuntu-flavour or fork, like Kubuntu or maybe Mint.

Moderator ,

Mint is for sure a good place to start. I personally run EndeavourOS with Cinnamon desktop and it’s been more trouble-free than anything Ubuntu based I’ve used (shocking, I know).

oscar ,

Interesting! I used arch for about 2 years on my gaming rig and it worked fine but I was worried if he went with something based on Arch that he would eventually run into issues due to not properly maintaining it (avoiding partial upgrades for example). But I’m probably overthinking it. If he sticks to a GUI for installing and updating packages and avoid messing with the terminal initially it should be fine.

I will add EndeavourOS to a small list of recommendations (rolling vs point release) so he can decide for himself.

Niteshade ,

Can’t go wrong with mint, I’ve been using it for years.

billiam0202 ,

Mint and PopOS! are the ones I’ve heard thrown about for “Users First Distro” ever since Canonical decided to do… whatever the fuck it is they’re doing to Ubuntu proper.

I’m using Mint now, and have exactly one complaint: I don’t like the default Cinnamon Firefox icon so I changed it, but every time there’s an update to Firefox it changes back. All things considered, that’s nothing to worry about.

Biscuit303 ,

Know how to tell which Lemmy users are running Linux? Don’t worry, they’ll tell you.

ilmagico ,

Sometimes I doubt my OS choice … but then suddenly microsoft reminds me why I chose it ;)

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