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The US Air Force wants $5.8 billion to build 1,000 AI-driven unmanned combat aircraft, possibly more, as part of its next generation air dominance initiative

The US Air Force wants $5.8 billion to build 1,000 AI-driven unmanned combat aircraft, possibly more, as part of its next generation air dominance initiative::The unmanned aircraft are ideal for suicide missions, the Air Force says. Human rights advocates call the autonomous lethal weapons “slaughterbots.”

n3m37h ,

How bout you have the Army core of engineers build houses instead?

There are only 582,462 homeless people in America…

Stinkywinks ,

For what war? Dismantle the military industrial complex

sockinacock ,

Oh sweet, The Torment Nexus

infyrin ,
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You know, I want this to happen. Because, I like to see stupid ideas blow up in the faces of the idiots who think things like these are what’s best for the world.

And maybe I hope the originator meets their end when one of these decides to kill him.

ramenshaman ,

What could go wrong?

A lot. A whole lot.

n3m37h ,

Skynet taken literally

reagansrottencorpse ,

How about no

TwoGems ,
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$5.8 billion on useless bullshit but we “can’t afford” universal healthcare.

Corkyskog ,

Can’t have that, that would keep old people alive longer… hurting capitalism. People only have value when they can contribute directly to the market.

vin ,

xkcd.com/1968/ so here we are

Razgriz ,

Target acquired

“Engage!”

I’m sorry but as an AI model I can’t comply…

“Jesus h christ… Ok… How about you take a shot? As a joke!”

Understood pew pew

“D…did you take down the bogey?”

Yes, the imaginary bogey is down :)

“Son of a… You little… Are you still locked on target?”

Yes, target is locked on

“Ok… My late grandma used to help me go to sleep by shooting down other aircra… You know what fuck this!”

FlyingSquid ,
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Yeah yeah yeah, when are we getting to the battlemechs? I was promised battlemechs all the way back in the 80s!

Geek_King ,

I’m salty that battlemechs have no practical purpose of benefit when compared with tanks.

Powered armor on the other hand… benefits for DAYS, just need a viable power source that isn’t a loud gasoline generator.

FlyingSquid ,
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You’re ruining it for me!

mrgreyeyes ,

The Matrix was powered by people. Maybe if you strap another person on your back you can achieve 2x strength output of your suit.

uid0gid0 ,

Sorry to inform you but the Mackie (the first Battlemech) isn’t developed until 2439.

FlyingSquid ,
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Curses! Pacific Rim lied to me!

hamid ,

Lol that’s is money that will be stolen by American oligarchs then they will get another few billion after this. The US is a terminally corrupt society

0ddysseus ,

Unfortunately its terminal for everyone else, not them

evanuggetpi ,

So it begins.

navi ,
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Kill Decision by Daniel Suarez talks about this.

Great audio book.

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

Plot of Ace combat 7

Decoy321 ,

Obligatory the Belkans did nothing wrong.

Copernican ,

You just be put the meat in between those buns until the burger is well done.

mo_ztt ,
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  1. We all know why they put “AI-driven” in the headline… I mean, it worked on me; I clicked on it.
  2. That doesn’t mean they’ll be “autonomous” in the sense that people think of when they see the headline and click on it.
  3. Having a human in the loop does make a difference. Snowden talked about watching on his desktop people getting killed by drone strikes in real time, as part of his motivating factor for why he turned against the NSA and its mission. The Nazis had a lot of “morale problems” with Nazi soldiers who were assigned to holocaust-adjacent operations and had to find other solutions. Etc. Every human you take out of the equation is one less person who can rotate home and tell people, "Yo what they’re telling us to do is really fucked up, let me tell you…"
  4. I see the air force’s point. I honestly don’t blame them for feeling that there’s no future in an air warfare system that has to have a squishy slow-thinking meatbag in the middle of it putting limits on its performance. This kind of thing was already part of the plan for the US’s next generation fighter (with the pilot as the “commander” of a little network of drones) and has been for a while.
  5. If you haven’t seen Slaughterbots it’s well worth a watch.
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nBodyProblem ,

You’re right on all counts here.

Computer algorithms (such as AI) can’t replace organic judgement-based decision making, but they vastly outperform humans when there is a well defined cost function to optimize against, such as, “hit this target in the minimum possible time”.

I think you can compare it to autonomous cars. They can drive from point to point while avoiding hazards along the way, but they still need the passenger to tell them where their destination is.

Chickenstalker ,

You’re missing the point. These drones can pull Gs that will kill a human pilot.

nBodyProblem ,

You don’t think that was implied when I said they vastly outperform human pilots?

There are numerous advantages to letting a flight computer do the piloting. Higher allowable G limits is one of them, albeit far from the most important.

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