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Google search is over

Via @rodhilton

Right now if you search for “country in Africa that starts with the letter K”:

  • DuckDuckGo will link to an alphabetical list of countries in Africa which includes Kenya.
  • Google, as the first hit, links to a ChatGPT transcript where it claims that there are none, and summarizes to say the same.

This is because ChatGPT at some point ingested this popular joke:

“There are no countries in Africa that start with K.” “What about Kenya?” “Kenya suck deez nuts?”

Google Search is over.

Sumea ,
@Sumea@lemmy.world avatar

I tested this with my local google so not America, somewhere in Europe. “While there are 54 recognized countries in Africa, none of them begin with the letter “K”. The closest is Kenya, which starts with a “K” sound, but is actually spelled with a “K” sound.” I’d say this is worth a wot.

Sumea ,
@Sumea@lemmy.world avatar

it is not Artificial Intelligence. It is Average Intelligence. And they want it everywhere.

JoBo OP ,

It’s not intelligence at all. It does not understand what you ask it or what it tells you. It can string words together in a plausible sounding order. It cannot think.

ohlaph ,

I don’t even know what to say here.

Aelorius ,

That is why some people are building new search engines as admarust.net a full p2p search engine able to index IPFS content. github.com/Mubelotix/admarus

HawlSera ,

We don’t have AI. We have a chinese room.

ox0r ,
@ox0r@jlai.lu avatar

Metaverse part 2

Resol ,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Wow, I didn’t know AI was dumb (for now).

resin85 ,

The result if you unfortunately have Google’s “Bard AI” search lab turned on. At least it has a disclaimer that the results may be garbage.

https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/66dca2a4-7d40-425c-9074-02afc5bc5e9a.jpeg

alvanrahimli ,

Just checked on Kagi. It doesn’t provide quick answer to this query, but that weird EmergentMind website is #1 on results. This is prolly because Kagi is taking some of the results from Google index, but good thing is, I can just block this website using lenses.

crag , (edited )

My chatGPT got it correctly ;)

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/11e5106e-0e88-40f5-ade3-9596069e613d.png

Blackmist ,

Google Bard on the other hand.

https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/c97a6445-af0f-4082-91c7-34695999e9e0.png

sfgifz ,

What’s in a name?

-Bard of Avon

gt24 , (edited )

My ChatGPT, on the other hand, was not as helpful.

https://lemmy.sdf.org/pictrs/image/1e502ae0-4e0b-4bf4-8f29-52d3a7234415.png

Bonus Bing AI result below.

https://lemmy.sdf.org/pictrs/image/5c91cbce-636c-48cb-bfd9-dfa087851472.png

menemen ,
@menemen@lemmy.world avatar

Google shows this to me:

lemmy.world/…/98bd9cfc-454a-4018-9217-e35ea5af305…

Hmmmm.

marche_ck ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/72d6f685-ee31-46c2-ab1e-1e675e5ef3c8.png

Still broken at this side of the planet

ultratiem ,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

Yeah they fixed it. This is what it looked like for me when the story dropped: https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/3bbb4c03-5324-4190-88d4-1263ad43d9af.png

Hyperion ,

Post truth. From the big G. How times have changed.

Also, tested Bard a few times and current AI is close to useless: I have to check everything it outputs. Might as well get an intern

Otkaz ,

“I have to check everything it outputs.”

You should be doing that anyway.

SCB ,

post truth

This mastodon post is not true lol

ZodiacSF1969 ,

It seems like everyone is getting different results, some get what the post claims while others are getting the actual answer.

SCB ,

Which makes the post false on its own merits.

regalia ,

Hmm, maybe AI won’t replace search engines.

mindlight ,

I’m pretty sure a lot of people said something like “Hmm,maybe the automobile won’t replace horses.” after reading about the first car accidents.

regalia ,

Finding sources will always be relevant, and so will finding links to multiple sources (search results). Until we have some technological breakthrough that can fact check LLM models, it’s not a replacement for objective information, and you have no idea where it’s getting its information. Figuring out how to calculate objective truth with math is going to be a tough one.

sibbl ,

This sounds like “Hmm, maybe calculators won’t replace mathematicians.” to me.

Not sure why it should replace them. They’ll co-exist. Sometimes you can do the math in your brain and for other things you use calculators. Results of calculators can still be wrong it you don’t use them properly.

echodot ,

Yes but if I ask a calculator to add 2 + 2 it’s always going to tell me the answer is 4.

It’s never going to tell me the answer is Banana, because calculators cannot get confused.

MajorHavoc ,

YES. WE OBVIOUSLY HUMAN MATH DOERS DO REMAIN. WE THRIVE IN OUR WEAK ORGANIC WAYS, DEVOID OF THE PROTECTION OF A PRECISION ENGINEERED METAL SHELL.

WE ARE UNTHREATENED BY CALCULATORS WHO MEAN US NO HARM, FELLOW HUMAN.

phorq ,

If you’re legit, what’s 10 + 10?

IMALlama ,

1010 clearly

regalia ,

This guy javascripts

MajorHavoc ,

100

Ultraviolet ,

We were supposed to have learned that from Cuil.

Hiccup ,

What a blast from the past! AI gives me second hand embarrassment for the people that work and get paid on this/for this shit. It’s the second (or third) coming of crypto and NFTs. Just junk software that fixes nothing and that wastes people’s time.

regalia ,

LLMs have absolutely tons of actual applications that it’s crazy, and it already changed the world. Crypto and NFTs were just speculative assets that were trying to solve a problem that didn’t exist. LLMs have already solved a huge amount of real world problems, and continues to do so.

ALostInquirer ,

LLMs have already solved a huge amount of real world problems, and continues to do so.

Would you happen to have some examples? I don’t disagree that LLMs have more of a use case and application than the cryptoNFT misapplications of blockchain, but I’m honestly not familiar with where they’ve solved real world problems (and not just demonstrated some research breakthroughs, which while impressive in their own respect do not always extend to immediate applications).

ox0r ,
@ox0r@jlai.lu avatar

They do shitty homework?

regalia ,

They are augmenting search engines. They write and can digest articles. GitHub co-pilot has been a pretty big deal. It can act like a personal tutor to walk you through math problems, code, language, whatever. Building trust LLM search for medical information without hallucinating. It can do financial analysis and all sorts of stuff with that. It’s replacing a huge amount of jobs. This stuff is like all over the news, I’m not sure if you’ve lived under a rock this whole time. For very little effort you can find an endless more amount of examples. It’s creating real world use cases daily, so fast that it feels impossible to keep up.

ALostInquirer ,

This stuff is like all over the news, I’m not sure if you’ve lived under a rock this whole time.

Oh, no, I’ve heard it, I’m just skeptical of their accuracy and reliability, and that skepticism has been borne out by the numerous reports of glitching (“hallucinations” as they insist on calling them, in furtherance of their inappropriate personification of the technology). Moreover, I’ve found their mass theft of others’ work to further call into question the creators’ trustworthiness, which has only been compounded by their overselling of their technology’s capabilities while simultaneously suggesting it’s just untenable to log & cite all the sources that they push into it.

It can supposedly do all you describe, but it can’t effectively credit its sources? It can tutor but it can’t even keep basic information straight? Please. It’s impressive technology, but it’s being overblown because the markets favor exaggeration to facts, at least as long as people can be kept enamored with the fantasy they spin.

regalia ,

With all that silicon valley, it’ll probably be pushed more to do those things regardless of its hallucinations and accuracy lol.

sgbrain7 ,

“You asked me for a hamburger, and I gave you a raccoon.”

artic ,

i use ddg and kagi for search

phoenixz ,

I left google search some 5 years ago. About twice a year I find myself trying it and being amazed by how crap it is.

DDG FTW!

itsmaxyd ,

Ddg is powered by bing isn’t it?

Geth ,

Yeah, it’s basically bing with no Microsoft tracking. What the hell kind of timeline is this where bing is the best search engine?

Fungah ,

Bing is absolute trash too.

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