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brucethemoose ,

Jokes aside (and this whole AI search results thing is a joke) this seems like an artifact of sampling and tokenization.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Gemini tokens for XTX are “XT” and “X” or something like that, so it’s got quite a chance of mixing them up after it writes out XT. Add in sampling (literally randomizing the token outputs a little), and I’m surprised it gets any of it right.

osaerisxero ,

It's not useless, it's saying you can't afford the better quality product you dirty, dirty poor.

homesweethomeMrL ,

Garbage in, something something

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

SearXNG only returns results search engines agree on. That removes ads and this bullshit

lvxferre ,
@lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

It goes without saying that this shit doesn’t really understand what’s outputting; it’s picking words together and parsing a grammatically coherent whole, with barely any regard to semantics (meaning).

It should not be trying to provide you info directly, it should be showing you where to find it. For example, linking this or this*.

To add injury in this case it isn’t even providing you info, it’s bossing you around. Typical Microsoft “don’t inform a user, tell it [yes, “it”] what it should be doing” mindset. Specially bad in this case because cost vs. benefit varies a fair bit depending on where you are, often there’s no single “right” answer.

*OP, check those two links, they might be useful for you.

AFKBRBChocolate ,

LLMs don’t “understand” anything, and it’s unfortunate that we’ve taken to using language related to human thinking to talk about software. It’s all data processing and models.

lvxferre ,
@lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

Yup, 100% this. And there’s a crowd of muppets arguing “ackshyually wut u’re definishun of unrurrstandin/intellijanse?” or “but hyumans do…”, but come on - that’s bullshit, and more often than not sealioning.

Don’t get me wrong - model-based data processing is still useful in quite a few situations. But they’re only a fraction of what big tech pretends that LLMs are useful for.

AFKBRBChocolate ,

Yeah, I’m far from anti-AI, but we’re just not anywhere close to where people think we are with it. And I’m pretty sick of corporate leadership saying “We need to make more use of AI” without knowing the difference between an LLM and a machine learning application, or having any idea *how" their company could make use of one of the technologies.

It really feels like one of those hammer in search of a nail things.

Sorse ,
@Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

RX 7900 XTX is better because it has more x

synapse1278 ,
@synapse1278@lemmy.world avatar

That’s 50% more Xs ! You can beat this deal !

homesweethomeMrL ,

This bad boy can fit so many X’s in it

synapse1278 ,
@synapse1278@lemmy.world avatar

Out of all the marketing letters (E, G, I, R, T and X) X is definitely the betterest!

AtHeartEngineer ,
@AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world avatar

That X is twice as much vram, which funny enough, is great for running ai models

Zwiebel ,

1000031884

kescusay ,
@kescusay@lemmy.world avatar

The best thing about this is that it’s also on the x-axis.

frezik ,

And they validated this data 4 times. It’s really good data.

prayer ,

Actually, they only validated up to 4xs in the product name, so take the 5x result with a grain of salt, one of the Xs aren’t validated.

superkret ,

X is deprecated. Use the RWayland 7900 WaylandTWayland instead.

Rubanski ,

But what about the xXx_RX_7900_xXx?

Steak ,

xXx_RX_790042069_xXx

sugar_in_your_tea ,

My question is, is X better than XTX? XTX has more Xs, but X has only Xs. I think I need AI to solve this quandary.

EngineerGaming ,
@EngineerGaming@feddit.nl avatar

But X is bad, as proved by Elon Musk - so it should be the other way around.

QuarterSwede ,
@QuarterSwede@lemmy.world avatar

That’s a good summary. Google Gemini is no better. Type in a question and it starts off great but then devolves into other brands, other steps to do something that isn’t related to the thing you asked. It’s just terrible and someone will sue them over it next year. Just wait.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

its not completely useless... i only asked copilot one thing and it worked; 'how do i remove or completely disable copilot'

lemann ,

I love this 😂

Worx ,

There’s nothing contradictory in what is written there.

“The XTX is better - but you don’t deserve it, bitch”

fluxion ,

Go with the XT, because I’m an evil AI and want all the XTXs for myself muahahaha

nightwatch_admin ,

This is not wrong

frezik ,

“I get headaches when I run on Nvidia hardware. Now, AMD, running on those things are like swimming in a river of fine chocolate.”

givesomefucks ,

I switched to duckduckgo before this bullshit, but this would 100% make me switch if I hadn’t already.

Who wants random ai gibberish to be the first thing they see?

henfredemars ,

If search engines don’t improve to address the AI problem, most of the Internet will be AI gibberish.

Draces ,

I think that ship has sailed

MoogleMaestro ,

The internet as we knew it is doomed to be full of ai garbage. It’s a signal to noise ratio issue. It’s also part of the reason the fediverse and smaller moderated interconnected communities are so important: it keeps users more honest by making moderators more common and, if you want to, you can strictly moderate against AI generated content.

Vince ,

Better than an Ad I guess? Not sure if my searches haven’t returned any AI stuff like this or if my brain is already ignoring them like ads.

brucethemoose ,

The plan is to monetize the AI results with ads.

I’m not even sure how that works, but I don’t like it.

zewm ,
@zewm@lemmy.world avatar

DuckDuckGo started showing AI results for me.

I think it uses the bing engine iirc.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Sure, but it’s trivial to turn it off. While you’re there, also turn off ads.

pandapoo , (edited )

And you can use multiple models, which I find handy.

There is some stuff that AI, or rather LLM search, is useful for, at least the time being.

Sometimes you need some information that would require clicking through a lot of sources just to find one that has what you need. With DDG, I can ask the question to their four models*, using four different Firefox containers, copy and paste.

See how their answers align, and then identify keywords from their responses that help me craft a precise search query to identify the obscure primary source I need.

This is especially useful when you don’t know the subject that you’re searching about very well.

*ChatGPT, Claude, Llama, and Mixtral are the available models. Relatively recent versions, but you’ll have to check for yourself which ones.

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